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Post by dill1015 on Jan 13, 2016 14:13:15 GMT
Hindsight is a wonderful thing. We didnt sign him in the summer, but we signed other players that other clubs were probably interested in. Hayes is not what we need at the moment. We do need a defenceman though. Nail on the head. We dont need Hayes we need a stud of a d man. We never replaced losing Peckham.
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Post by iginla on Jan 13, 2016 14:16:01 GMT
How do you know Ftm that they didn't just ring him and offer him twice what he was on in Edinburgh,that would be wrong ? It is easy to tempt another player if you offer him enough money.
Chicken/egg what came first,we will never know,but the Steelers leave themselves wide open to speculation they poached him !
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Post by panthersdave on Jan 13, 2016 14:19:01 GMT
How do you know Ftm that they didn't just ring him and offer him twice what he was on in Edinburgh,that would be wrong ? It is easy to tempt another player if you offer him enough money. Chicken/egg what came first,we will never know,but the Steelers leave themselves wide open to speculation they poached him ! If that's the case the Caps could have just withheld his transfer card. By all accounts the Caps released him.
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Post by Mozzy on Jan 13, 2016 14:27:13 GMT
Players move between clubs all the time in other sports, taking advantage of smaller clubs. Why is hockey so different?? The league is far from a joke. Steelers have done absolutely nothing wrong in this as far as I can see. However, the league certainly is a total joke. Why do you think the league is a total joke?
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Post by Mozzy on Jan 13, 2016 14:29:44 GMT
How do you know Ftm that they didn't just ring him and offer him twice what he was on in Edinburgh,that would be wrong ? It is easy to tempt another player if you offer him enough money. Chicken/egg what came first,we will never know,but the Steelers leave themselves wide open to speculation they poached him ! What you say is absolutely true, money talks but Hayes couldn't move without the Caps agreeing. We let Shields go back to Belfast a few years ago when Finnerty was in charge, it happens.
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Post by Rob Scott on Jan 13, 2016 14:41:13 GMT
Steelers have done absolutely nothing wrong in this as far as I can see. However, the league certainly is a total joke. Why do you think the league is a total joke? Nothing to do with this signing. More to do with M&S carrier bags, conflict of interests. Refereeing standards. Competition formats.... I could go on.
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Post by Shorty on Jan 13, 2016 14:49:24 GMT
Chicken/egg what came first,we will never know,but the Steelers leave themselves wide open to speculation they poached him ! Am sure there is someone ITK within the Caps fan base who will know.
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Post by iginla on Jan 13, 2016 14:52:20 GMT
Don't talk daft Mozzy.
Player says I want to go,team says you ain't going anywhere,player says ok I will just coast then,team says ok we can't have that so you can go to Sheffield and we will say we released you.
It happens !
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Post by iginla on Jan 13, 2016 14:53:59 GMT
I'm sure there is Shorty,but I'm a Panthers fan,so how would I know !
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2016 15:02:38 GMT
Everything about this league is a joke unless you are the team benefiting!!
Anyway wouldn't swap Hayes for anyone on this side that's for certain. How will he perform now he's not such a big fish on a team. ?!
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Post by beav107 on Jan 13, 2016 15:02:54 GMT
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Jan 13, 2016 15:03:43 GMT
lol
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Post by NottinghamMatt on Jan 13, 2016 15:42:47 GMT
Scott Neil said, "It became clear that Ryan was becoming increasingly unsettled and with a number of alternative options being provided to him, the club did not want to prevent him from taking any further opportunities going forward. Ryan has had a number of offers over the last 2 months and has stuck with us but with the season heading towards a completion, I think he wanted an opportunity to be challenging for silverware. It is never easy to lose a top player but considering all the circumstances, I believe we have done the best for the club and the player. The team will be looking into replacement player options immediately. Not poached or anything!!
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Post by PantherB on Jan 13, 2016 15:56:46 GMT
Whilst he's got superb stats so far this season I expect Erhardt teams to shut him down more now, he has an attitude problem so he may end up being a bigger harm than benefit to Steelers, unsettle the locker room, take too many penalties. He left Caps because he wanted to win silverware this season, he's impatient and his loyalty is non existent. I'd take our 41 year old Ling over Hayes, any day of the week.
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Post by nate24 on Jan 13, 2016 16:27:41 GMT
You guys make me laugh. Whichever way you spin it it just looks like a big team taking advantage of a smaller outfit. I no longer give a crap. I've long known this league is becoming a joke. Players move between clubs all the time in other sports, taking advantage of smaller clubs. Why is hockey so different?? The league is far from a joke. Look into the ccup drawer farce and tell me that again.
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Post by tim27 on Jan 13, 2016 16:35:59 GMT
You could say we did the same with Madolora.
I dont get what the big thing is with signing players from other teams is, all leagues and sports allow it.
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Jan 13, 2016 16:44:14 GMT
You could say we did the same with Madolora. I dont get what the big thing is with signing players from other teams is, all leagues and sports allow it. 100% correct and that breaks away from the comfy gents agreement not to spend more money than they need and shows an ambition to win.
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Post by texpef on Jan 13, 2016 16:45:45 GMT
Unbelievable....
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Post by panthers4ever on Jan 13, 2016 16:52:59 GMT
OMG
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Post by Mark on Jan 13, 2016 17:02:52 GMT
One organisation has ambition, the other has coffers to fill.
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Post by texpef on Jan 13, 2016 17:42:51 GMT
So I take it all back about Cardiff buying the league... sod the smaller clubs let them go bust is clearly the Sheffield way, clearly been touching up an opposition player given the statement from Edinburgh which I was under the impression was against the rules...
Really hope panthers had driven up his costs once it was known he was on his way out of edinburgh but given we cant even replace injured players I doubt they looked at having spares..
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Jan 13, 2016 17:44:12 GMT
So I take it all back about Cardiff buying the league... sod the smaller clubs let them go bust is clearly the Sheffield way, clearly been touching up an opposition player given the statement from Edinburgh which I was under the impression was against the rules... Really hope panthers had driven up his costs once it was known he was on his way out of edinburgh but given we cant even replace injured players I doubt they looked at having spares.. Even Paws missed a game a couple of weeks back. It couldn't get worse
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2016 17:58:33 GMT
So I take it all back about Cardiff buying the league... sod the smaller clubs let them go bust is clearly the Sheffield way, clearly been touching up an opposition player given the statement from Edinburgh which I was under the impression was against the rules... Really hope panthers had driven up his costs once it was known he was on his way out of edinburgh but given we cant even replace injured players I doubt they looked at having spares.. Edinburgh had put Hayes on notice. He was actively seeking a new club. Seems to be one of those players who when things aren't going his way, he lets it effect his game. Good luck to Sheffield, he's a good player but it'll be interesting to see his discipline there.
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Post by Dan on Jan 13, 2016 18:01:22 GMT
Jesus, what a signing.
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Post by Yotes on Jan 13, 2016 18:59:08 GMT
You could say we did the same with Madolora. I dont get what the big thing is with signing players from other teams is, all leagues and sports allow it. I agree with you, provided Steelers approached Edinburgh first, rather than dangling the carrot to the player so he agitates for a move.
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