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Post by iginla on Jan 4, 2016 22:06:16 GMT
Did you forget something Gawd ? Lol
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Post by Gawdonbennett on Jan 4, 2016 22:17:25 GMT
Did you forget something Gawd ? Lol Aye my glasses so can hardly see font! ;-)
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Post by Shorty on Jan 4, 2016 22:28:00 GMT
I couldn't see a 'stay away' protest working but maybe a late entrance to the game, say half way into the 1st period (or start of the 2nd)? It has been used effectively by many football fans as the start of any game has the most attention. If a point was wanting to be made I would think 1000 to 1500 or even 2000 fans making a late entry wouldn't go unoticed. Never going to happen. Those that moan the loudest and longest on here keep buying season tickets year in year out, and generally won't miss a game as they already have a ticket.
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Post by ted logan on Jan 4, 2016 22:36:33 GMT
I couldn't see a 'stay away' protest working but maybe a late entrance to the game, say half way into the 1st period (or start of the 2nd)? It has been used effectively by many football fans as the start of any game has the most attention. If a point was wanting to be made I would think 1000 to 1500 or even 2000 fans making a late entry wouldn't go unoticed. Never going to happen. Those that moan the loudest and longest on here keep buying season tickets year in year out, and generally won't miss a game as they already have a ticket. How does anyone know what would or wouldn't make a difference? I'd be up for giving something a try but in reality I think GM has such an ego that nothing would bother him. People turning up late is a decent statement to make but GM would just sneer and see us as mugs for paying for a ticket and missing a large part of the game. Nothing will change until that man has gone and he will only go when he is ready and on his terms.
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Post by Gawdonbennett on Jan 4, 2016 23:13:54 GMT
Never going to happen. Those that moan the loudest and longest on here keep buying season tickets year in year out, and generally won't miss a game as they already have a ticket. How does anyone know what would or wouldn't make a difference? I'd be up for giving something a try but in reality I think GM has such an ego that nothing would bother him. People turning up late is a decent statement to make but GM would just sneer and see us as mugs for paying for a ticket and missing a large part of the game. Nothing will change until that man has gone and he will only go when he is ready and on his terms. At this stage I think fan demo's are premature & we need to keep backing the players vocally. But if frustrations mount, be it through lack of cover leading to losses or poor displays like NYE, I might be tempted to join an organised late arrival (I've had season tickets x 3 for 3 years, me & two kids). I've paid out a decent amount in tickets, jersey's & other official pricey merchandise in that time. Granted we've been well entertained for the most part & don't regret it as all 3 of us love the game & the club, but it would not be wise for G.M or others to take the fans loyalty for granted.
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Post by ted logan on Jan 4, 2016 23:21:20 GMT
The Clan cup game on a Wednesday 20th of January is the prefect game, season ticket holders have pay extra for this one, I'm willingto be the 1st to say I'm not going to the game as a protest. I don't have other commitments on this date, not work or a date with miss world, not going to see cricket in South Africa, god I lead a borring life. The peasants are revolting I'm revolting too then! Count me in!
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Post by ted logan on Jan 4, 2016 23:27:27 GMT
How does anyone know what would or wouldn't make a difference? I'd be up for giving something a try but in reality I think GM has such an ego that nothing would bother him. People turning up late is a decent statement to make but GM would just sneer and see us as mugs for paying for a ticket and missing a large part of the game. Nothing will change until that man has gone and he will only go when he is ready and on his terms. At this stage I think fan demo's are premature & we need to keep backing the players vocally. But if frustrations mount, be it through lack of cover leading to losses or poor displays like NYE, I might be tempted to join an organised late arrival (I've had season tickets x 3 for 3 years, me & two kids). I've paid out a decent amount in tickets, jersey's & other official pricey merchandise in that time. Granted we've been well entertained for the most part & don't regret it as all 3 of us love the game & the club, but it would not be wise for G.M or others to take the fans loyalty for granted. This is where there is a conflict of interest. Barring a few performances, I love this seasons team. The on ice one. It's the off ice team where I think many people feel the problem lies. Like you I've held a ST (+1 for Logan Jnr) for many years now and have bought the shirts and been a sponsor. The taking fans loyalty for granted is a big problem that year on year seems to get worse. It's becoming a bit of an issue with more and more dissenting voices piping up. What the answer is or where it will end is anybody's guess?
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Post by iginla on Jan 5, 2016 0:02:38 GMT
Can't we just get some large banners to unfurl that say......."Enough BS - Moran out !".
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Post by Gawdonbennett on Jan 5, 2016 0:03:24 GMT
The Clan cup game on a Wednesday 20th of January is the prefect game, season ticket holders have pay extra for this one, I'm willingto be the 1st to say I'm not going to the game as a protest. I don't have other commitments on this date, not work or a date with miss world, not going to see cricket in South Africa, god I lead a borring life. The peasants are revolting I'm revolting too then! Count me in! Good alternative to a stay away or late start if we already have tickets. I'll join with this one. Do you know roughly how many ST holders there are?
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Jan 5, 2016 0:17:19 GMT
Can't we just get some large banners to unfurl that say......."Enough BS - Moran out !". I would pay to see that lol
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Post by iginla on Jan 5, 2016 0:22:26 GMT
Especially if it was during a live game on Premier sports,that would be brilliant ! Lol
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Jan 5, 2016 0:32:36 GMT
Especially if it was during a live game on Premier sports,that would be brilliant ! Lol I can see bag checks coming this weekend
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Post by Gawdonbennett on Jan 5, 2016 0:45:40 GMT
At this stage I think fan demo's are premature & we need to keep backing the players vocally. But if frustrations mount, be it through lack of cover leading to losses or poor displays like NYE, I might be tempted to join an organised late arrival (I've had season tickets x 3 for 3 years, me & two kids). I've paid out a decent amount in tickets, jersey's & other official pricey merchandise in that time. Granted we've been well entertained for the most part & don't regret it as all 3 of us love the game & the club, but it would not be wise for G.M or others to take the fans loyalty for granted. This is where there is a conflict of interest. Barring a few performances, I love this seasons team. The on ice one. It's the off ice team where I think many people feel the problem lies. Like you I've held a ST (+1 for Logan Jnr) for many years now and have bought the shirts and been a sponsor. The taking fans loyalty for granted is a big problem that year on year seems to get worse. It's becoming a bit of an issue with more and more dissenting voices piping up. What the answer is or where it will end is anybody's guess? I'm torn too as this is a good honest set of players and none of us want to aim any protest their way. I was quiet naive when I first started supporting Panthers. To a newbie all seemed rosie, none of the greed & disregard of fans I'd witnessed in many years watching FB. My 1st taste was the calamaty for 13/14 season shirts. 3 ordered & paid for in May (£160) but still not delivered by Christmas when eventually I asked for a refund. I went to the Panthers office where G.M's assistant politely told me he would not speak to me about shirts as he was too busy. There were lots of fans waiting for shirts that season & the poor ice locker staff were taking the flak. A statement of apology would have been nice..small potatoes I know but it opened my eyes a little. It's a shame because with decent club/fan relations I think we have the potential to achieve +6k crowds nearly every game, not just for the last 7 games. I've introduced other families over the years via my nippers taking friends as part of their birthday parties, & many are now regulars. I do think we need to freshen things up a bit at Commercial level. Put G.M. out to grass in an 'honoury' capacity (deservedly I reckon for past endeavours, cut the guy in half & he'd be black & gold) and bring in someone with new ideas to drive us forward as an organisation.
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Post by nate24 on Jan 5, 2016 1:20:22 GMT
My word, the anger at the front office has intensified over very little hasn't it? It's not over one issue. This has been brewing for years. Maybe it's about to boil.
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Post by titch on Jan 5, 2016 3:58:10 GMT
Great replies, nice to see an insight into the minds of some of you guys.
I truly understand your anger towards the management of the team (Gary Moron in particular), but booing after the game versus an in-form Blaze team isn't the right way to go IMO.
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Post by cjmatt42 on Jan 5, 2016 7:39:23 GMT
Great replies, nice to see an insight into the minds of some of you guys. I truly understand your anger towards the management of the team (Gary Moron in particular), but booing after the game versus an in-form Blaze team isn't the right way to go IMO. That inform Blaze team have won 2 from 6 both against us while Giants and Devils have both beaten them twice. Shows with a decent amount of resources that 4 points was more than achievable as they aren't that in form. I'm all set for missing the cup game, would be interesting to get some traction behind it and see if anything actually changed!
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Post by Yotes on Jan 5, 2016 10:22:32 GMT
booing after the game versus an in-form Blaze team isn't the right way to go IMO I thought the booing came after the 0-4 first period, didn't hear much at the end. I didn't join in, but neither did I disagree with it. It wasn't a good enough effort. We've had choruses of "You're not fit to wear the shirt" in the past, so a bit of booing is nothing.
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Post by EMB on Jan 5, 2016 11:04:04 GMT
Can't we just get some large banners to unfurl that say......."Enough BS - Moran out !". Haha now you know Gary & the crew read this 'little' forum & he would have bag searches galore at the arena. Can you remember a few years back when they had a petition go round to keep the coaches job (Adey or Ellis cant remember) he had the security going up and down the stairs trying to remove the petition. Anyway it went to NB & sod all was done about it & there were a fair couple of thousand signatures on that one. I do tend to think that NB is scared to get rid of GM because as you said earlier he knows too much & would dish the dirt, or maybe they are in cahoots together. Its about time we had a proper hockey minded owner & GM abit like Cardiff.
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Post by ted logan on Jan 5, 2016 11:17:31 GMT
I'm revolting too then! Count me in! Good alternative to a stay away or late start if we already have tickets. I'll join with this one. Do you know roughly how many ST holders there are? Good question, not sure but 2500 maybe?
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Post by Gawdonbennett on Jan 5, 2016 16:20:00 GMT
Good alternative to a stay away or late start if we already have tickets. I'll join with this one. Do you know roughly how many ST holders there are? Good question, not sure but 2500 maybe? I'll ring the office and ask G.M. to confirm!
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