Shaggy
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Post by Shaggy on Nov 28, 2015 23:28:03 GMT
I will ask again.....do you think we would have a better chance of winning with either 10,11 or with 13 imports ? Simple numbers don't always mean much. A group of players who properly play as a team has far more chance of winning than a bunch of individuals, even if the latter outnumbers the former. And we've all seen amazing backs-to-the-wall performances from teams with (for example) only 12 outskaters... like that game in the Grand Slam season when Edinburgh came down here and caught us napping. They won because we pratted around and they played as a team - they deserved that win, no question. If we could find and afford a squad with all of our current players plus the 'missing' imports, and if it added to the current level of team cohesion etc... then I'd be delighted to have a full quota of imports. But if there was any doubt... I'd rather stick with what we've got. It does seem to be mostly working so far, after all...
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Post by iginla on Nov 28, 2015 23:45:11 GMT
Who said they wanted a bunch of individuals.....not me !
IF Brad Moran had been given a concussion by Tyson Marsh's check to the head in Cardiff tonight,then we would be three imports short tomorrow,but I guess you would still be sticking with what you've got !!
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Nov 29, 2015 0:08:27 GMT
Who said they wanted a bunch of individuals.....not me ! IF Brad Moran had been given a concussion by Tyson Marsh's check to the head in Cardiff tonight,then we would be three imports short tomorrow,but I guess you would still be sticking with what you've got !! Fingers crossed on that one. He looked ok on the ice at the end. That was a stupid hit by Marsh and I hope DOPS are all over him for it.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2015 9:42:03 GMT
This now has all the makings of the classic 'trap' game imo.
We're on a high & their wounded. Hope I'm way out on this obviously but....
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Pies
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Post by Pies on Nov 29, 2015 10:08:18 GMT
This now has all the makings of the classic 'trap' game imo. We're on a high & their wounded. Hope I'm way out on this obviously but.... Dave Matsos hockey! I don't think their defence is good enough to do that (famous last words!!)
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Post by kievthegreat on Nov 29, 2015 16:56:48 GMT
1-1. Steelers running Miika and lots of cheapshotting. Panthers need to play it simple. Looking error strewn atm.
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Post by kievthegreat on Nov 29, 2015 17:37:12 GMT
1-4. Appalling play in almost every respect by the Panthers. Steelers in between every pass and Kolnik missed a gilt edged chance out front at 1-3. Need a catalyst and more importantly 3 goals.
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Post by Ghost on Nov 29, 2015 18:41:05 GMT
A horror show in every respect. Panthers only showed up for 5 minutes, Sheffield sucked the life out of the game hence absolutely zero spectacle and the referee & linos.... The less said the better to be honest.
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Post by ted logan on Nov 29, 2015 18:49:12 GMT
Awful performance apart from two little spells in the 3rd period.
Hopefully just a one off as it was easily our worst performance of the season.
Still top though. I'm grasping around looking for some sort of positive.
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Post by shmyrohdear on Nov 29, 2015 19:17:17 GMT
Tonight was a gutless display, no urgency, no fire and nothing for 50 minutes. We should be beating teams like them fairly well. Mosey is just incredible atm the guy doesn't stop. Still anyone still crying over imports should just keep it away now. The budget has been taken by the brits who are as a wholeare a better core than any in the league and we have them in greater numbers. Another import wouldn't have saved us tonight. Onwards and upwards we'll lose points at stages in the year what's good is we bounce back and get wins. Rather lose to an inconsistent mid table team than Cardiff.
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Post by lepine28 on Nov 29, 2015 19:17:14 GMT
There shows the advantages/disadvantages of scheduling. If that game had of been on Saturday as planned we would have won, instead we looked tired and lethargic, probably due to getting home at 2am. On the other hand Sheffield come in fresh from having no game on Saturday.
I'm not defending the performance as I thought we made too many mistakes and missed big chances at crucial times.
After raving about the new guy after Edinburgh he really struggled tonight. He almost looked like he was trying too hard.
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Post by Bagheera on Nov 29, 2015 19:37:38 GMT
Ref was poor. We were decent in periods, especially going forward but poor the rest. Steve Lee was particularly awefull. Thought Pinc was good and made some big saves. Scheduling could have just been the difference maker but you need to find a way to get points in those situations.
That Sheffield team are no way near as bad as recent form will lead you to believe. And I also think they will be our biggest rivals for the league title. Ive seen too many seasons to write them off this early. They nearly always find away to get the points down the stretch.
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Mark
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Post by Mark on Nov 29, 2015 19:40:22 GMT
Can't turn up for just 10-15 minutes and expect to win. Sheffield out worked the Panthers for most of the game and we didn't help ourselves with some poor passing and a mostly lethargic performance. Officiating was the usual comedy routine. Missed calls or just ignored for both teams, and then a call for nothing, again both ways. Worst however were 2 Lino calls near the end. The no call for icing in the Panthers end, called at the last second was a total joke and then the missed offside call for their empty net goal. The scorer was 2 yards offside.
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Post by Bagheera on Nov 29, 2015 19:40:22 GMT
Oh and to Add a very slight positive in the circumstances.
Ive seen every success we've had at the NIC in the last 10/15 years and not sure I can remember the place being ad loud as it was towards the end tonight.
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Post by Yotes on Nov 29, 2015 19:44:39 GMT
Shame, poor second but decent effort to make it close in the end. I rather enjoyed it despite the result, last 5 minutes were great fun.
Other results look to be being helpful tonight (Coventry & Manchester doing/done us favours).
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Post by panthersnation on Nov 29, 2015 19:51:38 GMT
Got what we deserved.
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Pies
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Post by Pies on Nov 29, 2015 19:56:28 GMT
A bad night and we move on. Devils got 0 points so it's frustrating not to pull ahead, we aren't any worse off.
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Post by fishman on Nov 29, 2015 20:01:42 GMT
Please I missed this one, same as last weekend other clubs doing Panthers a good turn by beating our nearest rivals, just 1 point from each game (Caps & Steelers) & the league Table would look a lot better.!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by mmmbop on Nov 29, 2015 20:23:04 GMT
Well that was horrific!!!
End of the 1st I believe it was when Fitzgerald was offering any Panther to go center ice with him, instead we seemed more interested in chasing the likes of Roy, Hewitt and other nonentity's round the ice, the players should have gone and butchered Fitzgerald!!! And bless our new 88 he looked like a rabbit caught in the headlights
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2015 20:24:54 GMT
Thought we were very poor, particularly in the 2nd. Steelers weren't much better but took their chances well. Crowd was dead until the team woke up in the third. Hardy had a mare, looked undersized for our league. Ling was fantastic, how many mins did he log? Really finding his groove now.
What was that call on Mosey all about for their 5 on 3? Horrific call, I guess the chairman got his phone call in. EN was miles offside, didn't really matter though I guess.
Good night other results wise so as others have mentioned we move on. Some tough away games coming up.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2015 20:25:55 GMT
Quite simply we didn't turn up in the 2nd . That's what cost us. Pinc is one dodgy nettie like Modig. Ref was awful and the limos were worse. Tbh a decent team would see the game out at 4-1 . Sheffield were hanging on at the end it was that simple. En goal was yards offside too.
Looking at results around the league. It's been a pretty ok one. Our main title challengers lose not games and Belfast slip up too.
Onwards and upwards.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2015 20:30:14 GMT
This now has all the makings of the classic 'trap' game imo. We're on a high & their wounded. Hope I'm way out on this obviously but.... Good posting....
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Post by shmyrohdear on Nov 29, 2015 20:35:18 GMT
Feel the Hardy comments are harsh as well he had a couple of nad shifts other than that he passed the puck well and had them spinninh in the neutral zone. He carried the puck well tonight and actually turned up to play. Farmer was dire but i suppose after the gap of games he'll need time to get into again.
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iginla
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Post by iginla on Nov 29, 2015 20:35:29 GMT
All i'm saying is i don't know who was worse Panthers or the officials.
And i told you what would happen the other day......who ever scheduled this weekend wants shooting !!!!
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Post by fishman on Nov 29, 2015 20:41:52 GMT
Lets hope none of the Panthers are taking the shot, they are most likely to miss the target.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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