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Post by panthersdave on Dec 7, 2015 20:49:48 GMT
When you watch in slow motion,that Myers hit is no great deal. It's almost as if Myers doesn't see Higgins until it's too late,his arms are down and he doesn't hit the head. My thoughts exactly, doesn't change direction, doesn't lift his hands, doesn't look towards Higgins.
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Post by BigLad on Dec 8, 2015 9:29:13 GMT
When you watch in slow motion,that Myers hit is no great deal. It's almost as if Myers doesn't see Higgins until it's too late,his arms are down and he doesn't hit the head. TBH that's what I thought, but I can see why there was a penalty given...but not Shane Johnson's overreaction to it!
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Post by ted logan on Dec 8, 2015 11:50:28 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2015 11:56:31 GMT
More fuel to the one-sided rivalry though... NFNF and so on and so forth. It shouldn't be worth a ban, the whole incident is more clumsy on Myers behalf than anything. I think he was half expecting Higgins to be looking and then to move out the way (only going to be 1 winner in a collision between those 2), but he's too busy celebrating (which he has absolute right to do) but it's all much ado about nothing. Higgins sold it well though, went down in heap, fair play to him on that. Saying all that it'll probably end up a 1-2 game ban for whatever reason they pull out of the hat this week...
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Post by mattscold on Dec 8, 2015 11:57:45 GMT
I'm surprised no review for Desbiens, looked a bad hit from the highlights.
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Post by Yotes on Dec 8, 2015 12:00:21 GMT
I thought Myers could've avoided it tbh, but the 2 for roughing he got seems appropriate, can't really see it needing extras.
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Post by ted logan on Dec 8, 2015 12:35:46 GMT
There's nothing to it at all. Sicknote scores and continues to skate in a straight line, passing 2 players (one from each side) just in front of the blue paint. Myers is coming from behind the 2 players in the opposite direction and they obviously collide.
If they'd both gone down or if they'd both stayed on their feet, there would be no discussion, no endless replays and no DOPS.
There is no check to the head, no check from behind, no dangerous stick work, what can they ban him for? it's just 2 players colliding, one is much bigger/stronger/heavier than the other. Then again this is DOTS so anything could happen?
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Post by 5+game on Dec 8, 2015 12:39:43 GMT
All this requesting reviews is getting ridiculous were going to be non contact soon.
Its about time the league took a stand on it tho as it is completely undermining the referees decisions for the most petty of reasons.
Myers doesn't hit Higgins he collides with him and Higgins goes down like hes been shot but shows no effects of it as he argues with Ling and skates to the bench.
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Post by cjmatt42 on Dec 8, 2015 12:45:15 GMT
Unbelievable... Walser called the Beech contact with Clarke for the 5 on 3 the worst penalty awarded in his career or something similar. I'd say a more or less identical level of contact in a less dangerous area on the ice (ie miles from any boards instead of 2 players skating towards the boards with contact at the goal line) and they think it's worthy of a ban!
What can DOPS seriously do, they've given a 1 game ban for repeated spearing to the chest, neck area. Worst case surely they can give is to upgrade to a 5 + Game for roughing and leave it at that. As it was the 2 mins on the night was probably as much as it was worth at best. Seem to remember us celebrating a goal at the NIC this that ended in a ruck and no play received anything. As said DOPS is a different creature, anything can happen.
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Post by ted logan on Dec 8, 2015 12:51:53 GMT
Unbelievable... Walser called the Beech contact with Clarke for the 5 on 3 the worst penalty awarded in his career or something similar. I'd say a more or less identical level of contact in a less dangerous area on the ice (ie miles from any boards instead of 2 players skating towards the boards with contact at the goal line) and they think it's worthy of a ban! What can DOPS seriously do, they've given a 1 game ban for repeated spearing to the chest, neck area. Worst case surely they can give is to upgrade to a 5 + Game for roughing and leave it at that. As it was the 2 mins on the night was probably as much as it was worth at best. Seem to remember us celebrating a goal at the NIC this that ended in a ruck and no play received anything. As said DOPS is a different creature, anything can happen. Good point(s). I think the game your referring to was at home to Manchester maybe? Omar Pacha and 'hardman' David Phillips repeatedly deliberately going after our players after we'd scored. Happened on at least 2 occasions. I think Pacha was thrown out on a GP eventually but no further action was taken. Their NM also got involved and fired the puck into the crowd after one goal. No action taken. Panthers didn't go crying to DOPS either.
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Post by andyd on Dec 8, 2015 13:12:38 GMT
Having been at the game I'll crawl out of my hole to comment on The Cage for a change.
Utter, utter nonsense. From the other end of the rink it looked silly but the video is pretty clear that Myers is unsighted until the last minute by players between him and Higgins and then they collide with the bigger man staying on his feet. Any raising of Myers arms is to try and balance himself after contact. The outburst from Shane Johnson on commentary is flat out embarrassing, to call that dirty is a joke, unfortunate certainly, but dirty and cheap? Behave.
Should be thrown out immediately.
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Post by cjmatt42 on Dec 8, 2015 13:44:20 GMT
Unbelievable... Walser called the Beech contact with Clarke for the 5 on 3 the worst penalty awarded in his career or something similar. I'd say a more or less identical level of contact in a less dangerous area on the ice (ie miles from any boards instead of 2 players skating towards the boards with contact at the goal line) and they think it's worthy of a ban! What can DOPS seriously do, they've given a 1 game ban for repeated spearing to the chest, neck area. Worst case surely they can give is to upgrade to a 5 + Game for roughing and leave it at that. As it was the 2 mins on the night was probably as much as it was worth at best. Seem to remember us celebrating a goal at the NIC this that ended in a ruck and no play received anything. As said DOPS is a different creature, anything can happen. Good point(s). I think the game your referring to was at home to Manchester maybe? Omar Pacha and 'hardman' David Phillips repeatedly deliberately going after our players after we'd scored. Happened on at least 2 occasions. I think Pacha was thrown out on a GP eventually but no further action was taken. Their NM also got involved and fired the puck into the crowd after one goal. No action taken. Panthers didn't go crying to DOPS either. Correct, Pacha given 2 mins for roughing after Panthers 5th goal plus 10 minute misconduct for abuse of official to see him out the game. A minute later Schultz and Folkes ejected on misconducts after another coming together after the sixth goal. Seriously though, can DOPS carry on in it's current set up if Myers gets upgraded to a match and band? Would have to question the independence of the whole system if a repeated spearing to the chest and neck carries the same punishment as a collision at half pace, miles from the boards with hands down where there is no risk of injury. The more you look at it the more ridiculous the review is...
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Post by Yotes on Dec 8, 2015 13:58:04 GMT
He won't get banned, Belfast are basically paying for the DOPS Christmas party with this one.
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Post by Panthers44 on Dec 9, 2015 16:20:36 GMT
No further action on Matt Walser gets fined for comments link
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Post by ted logan on Dec 9, 2015 16:29:38 GMT
No further action on Matt Walser gets fined for comments linkKarma
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Post by Yotes on Dec 9, 2015 16:30:29 GMT
Both correct.
Silly review by Belfast, but it's their money I guess.
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Post by Pies on Dec 9, 2015 18:10:26 GMT
100 percent right decision made on both accounts.
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Post by tootootrain on Dec 9, 2015 19:33:24 GMT
No further action on Matt Walser gets fined for comments linkWah, wah, waaahh.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2015 19:40:30 GMT
DOPS is bang on again.
Whoever thought it was rigged should take a hard look at themselves...... (cough)
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Post by iginla on Dec 10, 2015 22:22:54 GMT
Tyson Marsh ban reduced to TWO games.......that is an utter total joke !!!!!!!!!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2015 22:24:58 GMT
and no mention of how/why they arrived at this crazy decision. What a bunch of faceless nobs.
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Post by ted logan on Dec 10, 2015 22:28:19 GMT
Tyson Marsh ban reduced to TWO games.......that is an utter total joke !!!!!!!!! So we now have to hope that Janssen beats the living snot out of him next week then?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2015 22:33:16 GMT
Ah, clearly I spoke too soon.
Not sure how they can reduce a ban without a thorough explanation. Either Cardiff have presented more evidence or the value of whatever currency they use in Wales must be strong against the English pound.
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Post by pantherman66 on Dec 10, 2015 22:42:25 GMT
It is decisions like this that make me wonder if it is worth carrying on following this sport, it is quite obviously corrupt.
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Post by Jasper on Dec 10, 2015 23:27:08 GMT
Tyson Marsh ban reduced to TWO games.......that is an utter total joke !!!!!!!!! So we now have to hope that Janssen beats the living snot out of him next week then? But Janssen was suposed to stop this sort of thing happening. Every time we sign (or don't sign) an enforcer everyone on here is wetting themselves because the opposition will be or should be 'looking over their shoulder' and 'not taking liberties' etc. IT DOESN'T WORK. Ndur didn't stop Adam Stefishen ramming Clarkie's head into the ice, Henley didn't stop Harvey putting Werner through the boards or Ondrej doing similar to Steve Lee. So Janssen beats the living snot out of Marsh, or even runs him through the boards and rings his bell (which I bet he doesn't)-does that help Moran get on the ice any quicker? I was one who thought Nathan Robinson was whinging when he said there were too many head hunters in the league but maybe he had a point. The only way to stop them is to ban them-for immense lengths of time. Enforcers (not that Janssen is one) don't work. DOPS have got their priorities wrong. It's ok banning Grimaldi for 18 games or whatever it was but nothing he did was really dangerous. Marsh's hit was worse than Grimaldi's clown show.
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