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Post by PantherB on Sept 30, 2015 16:34:05 GMT
Giants' Derek Walser, suspended for two games for butt-ending. Game Misconduct upgraded to a Match Penalty.
Capitals' David Rutherford, suspended for two games for fighting. Initial roughing penalty upgraded to a Match Penalty for Fighting.
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Post by mattscold on Sept 30, 2015 17:44:19 GMT
Giants' Derek Walser, suspended for two games for butt-ending. Game Misconduct upgraded to a Match Penalty. Capitals' David Rutherford, suspended for two games for fighting. Initial roughing penalty upgraded to a Match Penalty for Fighting. Forshall fined for breaching social media policy too. Anyone any idea what was said?
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Post by iginla on Sept 30, 2015 17:49:17 GMT
Typical,Walser gets two games and who does he miss.......Steelers TWICE !
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Post by flyerpanther on Sept 30, 2015 18:18:46 GMT
Typical,Walser gets two games and who does he miss.......Steelers TWICE ! The DOPS should have thrown the book at Wally cos he has vicious intent to target and injure a fellow professional..but theyre scared cos hes a well-respected ex NHL player?...deserves 10 games for acting like an animal
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Post by flyerpanther on Sept 30, 2015 18:20:41 GMT
Giants' Derek Walser, suspended for two games for butt-ending. Game Misconduct upgraded to a Match Penalty. Capitals' David Rutherford, suspended for two games for fighting. Initial roughing penalty upgraded to a Match Penalty for Fighting. Forshall fined for breaching social media policy too. Anyone any idea what was said? I think he said 'Emmos a pussycat'
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Post by iginla on Sept 30, 2015 18:57:59 GMT
Walser is a very lucky guy,he deserved at least 6 games for that.
Two games is a very poor decision.
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Post by Robbie Nud on Sept 30, 2015 20:00:23 GMT
Having looked at the DOPS video and it looked suspiciously like Walser stamped on the leg of the blaze player that was kneeling on the ice.
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Post by Mark Mac on Sept 30, 2015 20:13:32 GMT
Having looked at the DOPS video and it looked suspiciously like Walser stamped on the leg of the blaze player that was kneeling on the ice. I agree. I saw that as well. God knows how they missed it, or rather why they ignored it.
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Post by PantherG on Sept 30, 2015 20:17:08 GMT
Can't believe that the Coventry guy, who was battering the guy who fell to the ice and didn't want to fight gets off scot free. Had the refs taken control of the situation then Walser would not have taken the action he did.
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Post by Yotes on Sept 30, 2015 20:31:09 GMT
Having looked at the DOPS video and it looked suspiciously like Walser stamped on the leg of the blaze player that was kneeling on the ice. I agree. I saw that as well. God knows how they missed it, or rather why they ignored it. I disagree, I think standing on the guy was exactly what he was trying to avoid.
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Post by catweazle on Oct 13, 2015 11:14:05 GMT
Very quiet on this thread - that is a good thing if there is nothing to report and no new injuries - but that is not so, we have Farmer and Wiikman both injured (any updates available etc.)- also may be of interest Caps play Steelers tomorrow night and Caps have three players having penalties reviewed by the DOP's any chance of all three getting match bans???
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Post by catweazle on Oct 13, 2015 11:17:15 GMT
Caps will get all three banned, Steelers next game, we all know how it works
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Post by thebestpanthers on Oct 13, 2015 21:10:36 GMT
Very quiet on this thread - that is a good thing if there is nothing to report and no new injuries - but that is not so, we have Farmer and Wiikman both injured (any updates available etc.)- also may be of interest Caps play Steelers tomorrow night and Caps have three players having penalties reviewed by the DOP's any chance of all three getting match bans??? Two out of three banned for next game -- against guess who - think it would have looked too obvious if they had banned all three - win for Steelers, may as well not bother playing the game
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Post by ted logan on Oct 13, 2015 22:18:25 GMT
DOTS strikes again.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 13, 2015 22:21:48 GMT
Is this as blatantly crook as it seems or are we clearly reading far too much into a complete coincidence.....?!
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Post by dgardner on Oct 13, 2015 23:02:17 GMT
Abit off topic of injuries but to do with the steelers, anyone else noticed that the player profiles on the eihl website is only available for steelers players/ex players, just think its odd unless its the club that makes that info available to the website?
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Post by Yotes on Oct 13, 2015 23:05:56 GMT
We don't have profiles on our own website.
Maybe wait til we see the videos before deciding it's dodgy. Plus Shuff would beat Caps whatever.
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Post by GuinnessMan on Oct 14, 2015 8:19:15 GMT
Yesterdays Statement read as ... Following the games at the weekend, the following penalties will be reviewed by the Elite League Department of Player Safety...
Braehead v Fife 9/10/15 - Fife #22 Jeff Lee 5 + Game Checking From Behind
Manchester v Edinburgh 10/10/15 - Edinburgh #84 Kyle Bigos Match Penalty Fighting
Manchester v Edinburgh 10/10/15 - Manchester #53 Igor Bobcek 2+10 Checking to the Head
Braehead v Dundee 10/10/15 - Dundee #20 Mikael Lidhammar 2+10 Checking to the Head
Edinburgh v Manchester 11/10/15 - Edinburgh #19 Ryan Hayes 2+10 Checking to the Head
Edinburgh v Manchester 11/10/15 - Edinburgh #54 Kyle Flemington Game Penalty Third Man In
With Edinburgh playing in Sheffield on Wednesday, results of the reviews will be released on Tuesday evening."
What gets me, and with reference to the final sentence, is with Fife playing on Saturday why did Lee's penalty not get reviewed prior to that game. And with the penalties being reviewed from Saturday night, surely they should also have been done before Sunday. Either they are going to work to a timescale to review prior the offending players next game, or they are not. If they are just going to do it on a weekly basis, I think the league should tell us. It looks like they have rushed the Caps ones through because they are playing Wednesday, but clearly there wasn't sufficient reason to rush for their Sunday game? Is Wednesday the cut off? What if it had been a Tuesday game?
You could also argue, I guess that if a match penalty is served on the night, because occasionally these are not upheld by DOPS, then these should be 'postponed' pending DOPS review?
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Post by ted logan on Oct 14, 2015 9:03:25 GMT
Yesterdays Statement read as ... Following the games at the weekend, the following penalties will be reviewed by the Elite League Department of Player Safety... Braehead v Fife 9/10/15 - Fife #22 Jeff Lee 5 + Game Checking From Behind Manchester v Edinburgh 10/10/15 - Edinburgh #84 Kyle Bigos Match Penalty Fighting Manchester v Edinburgh 10/10/15 - Manchester #53 Igor Bobcek 2+10 Checking to the Head Braehead v Dundee 10/10/15 - Dundee #20 Mikael Lidhammar 2+10 Checking to the Head Edinburgh v Manchester 11/10/15 - Edinburgh #19 Ryan Hayes 2+10 Checking to the Head Edinburgh v Manchester 11/10/15 - Edinburgh #54 Kyle Flemington Game Penalty Third Man In With Edinburgh playing in Sheffield on Wednesday, results of the reviews will be released on Tuesday evening." What gets me, and with reference to the final sentence, is with Fife playing on Saturday why did Lee's penalty not get reviewed prior to that game. And with the penalties being reviewed from Saturday night, surely they should also have been done before Sunday. Either they are going to work to a timescale to review prior the offending players next game, or they are not. If they are just going to do it on a weekly basis, I think the league should tell us. It looks like they have rushed the Caps ones through because they are playing Sheffield, but clearly there wasn't sufficient reason to rush for their Sunday game? Is Wednesday the cut off? What if it had been a Tuesday game? You could also argue, I guess that if a match penalty is served on the night, because occasionally these are not upheld by DOPS, then these should be 'postponed' pending DOPS review? Slight edit there for you G-man courtesy of DOTS
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Post by Yotes on Oct 14, 2015 9:19:56 GMT
What gets me, and with reference to the final sentence, is with Fife playing on Saturday why did Lee's penalty not get reviewed prior to that game. And with the penalties being reviewed from Saturday night, surely they should also have been done before Sunday. Either they are going to work to a timescale to review prior the offending players next game, or they are not. If they are just going to do it on a weekly basis, I think the league should tell us. It looks like they have rushed the Caps ones through because they are playing Wednesday, but clearly there wasn't sufficient reason to rush for their Sunday game? Is Wednesday the cut off? What if it had been a Tuesday game? In fairness, there's a big difference in turning something around in 2 days and overnight. There's only going to be so much they can do, the teams will have to get the footage to them etc, I'd imagine whatever DOPS is make it clear to the league how fast they can turn a judgement around, maybe the league should make this clear to us too but it's not the first time we're kept largely in the dark. With it being Sheffield they're playing it looks dodgy to us, but had they been playing Dundee or Fife, would anyone have commented? You could also argue, I guess that if a match penalty is served on the night, because occasionally these are not upheld by DOPS, then these should be 'postponed' pending DOPS review? GM said that refs had stopped calling match penalties last year because they were expecting DOPS to pick up on them, I think that'd have the same effect, this might be overturned anyway so why bother, sort of thing. It's very much imperfect science, but is it better than the Moray Hanson mega-bans? I think it is.
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Post by ted logan on Oct 15, 2015 8:32:20 GMT
Plus Shuff would beat Caps whatever. Quality kiss of death - top work Yotes
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Post by Yotes on Oct 15, 2015 9:04:11 GMT
I try my best
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Post by ted logan on Oct 15, 2015 13:30:32 GMT
Much of the fracas in the Caps v Storm game seemed to be caused by David Phillips playing the wannabe hard man again. Considering he was left needing a visit to the dentist by Jordan Fox, he's hardly to going to be their go to guy in terms of toughness. Just stick to playing DP even though you're not very good at that either.
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Post by Yotes on Oct 15, 2015 16:12:25 GMT
Much of the fracas in the Caps v Storm game seemed to be caused by David Phillips playing the wannabe hard man again. Considering he was left needing a visit to the dentist by Jordan Fox, he's hardly to going to be their go to guy in terms of toughness. Just stick to playing DP even though you're not very good at that either. I'm hoping to hear "... a confrontation with Storm number 13..." many more times this season, it can become a running gag. Watching the videos though, I can't think there can be too many complaints about the bans? Only thing I don't like is them quoting the IIHF fighting rule, which we don't use. Over here you wouldn't necessarily get assessed a match penalty for starting a fight as far as I'm aware.
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Post by wgray on Oct 15, 2015 19:28:29 GMT
Much of the fracas in the Caps v Storm game seemed to be caused by David Phillips playing the wannabe hard man again. Considering he was left needing a visit to the dentist by Jordan Fox, he's hardly to going to be their go to guy in terms of toughness. Just stick to playing DP even though you're not very good at that either. I'm hoping to hear "... a confrontation with Storm number 13..." many more times this season, it can become a running gag. Watching the videos though, I can't think there can be too many complaints about the bans? Only thing I don't like is them quoting the IIHF fighting rule, which we don't use. Over here you wouldn't necessarily get assessed a match penalty for starting a fight as far as I'm aware. I don't understand how they judge someone to be worthy of a match penalty for fighting, is it if a player no choices another or if they go to far, can you shed some light?
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