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Post by Doom on Oct 28, 2015 11:42:18 GMT
Whilst I'm against all these suspensions for 'minor' incidents, I don't see what we have to gain from it tonight.
It's a Challenge Cup game and we've already qualified, we're that desperate to win we're putting our back-up in goal, so I really don't see why anyone can assume we're desperate to gain some sort of an advantage.
Regarding penalties and suspensions. I was watching an old Steelers v Panthers game from few years ago. There were all sorts of hits, little punches etc. with the likes of Zukiwsky being involved. The referee (Rowe) just told them to get on with the game without calling a penalty. This day and age it would be a penalty and a suspension. I thought it made for a much better spectacle letting the game flow.
Obviously we don't want to see players headhunted with sticks, but most supporters enjoy a game with a physical edge. The way things are currently going players will be scared to go within a foot of each other. Zero tolerance sanitized the game far too much as far as I'm concerned.
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Post by Shorty on Oct 28, 2015 11:44:39 GMT
The way things are currently going players will be scared to go within a foot of each other. Zero tolerance sanitized the game far too much as far as I'm concerned. Regards Doom Perhaps that is Thommo's plan.....
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Post by Yotes on Oct 28, 2015 11:46:49 GMT
Should've been 2 minutes alright.
For diving.
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Post by ted logan on Oct 28, 2015 12:05:00 GMT
Should've been 2 minutes alright. For diving. Was it Ben 'Tom Daley' O'Connor again?
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Post by Yotes on Oct 28, 2015 12:36:43 GMT
Nope, Cullen "Parents wrote his name in the wrong boxes and no one had any Tipex" Eddy. They're like the Polaris fleet up the M1.
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Post by cjmatt42 on Oct 28, 2015 12:42:41 GMT
Teams advantage so far of playing against teams with banned players. Dundee 0 games Nottingham 0 games Belfast 0 games Edinburgh 1 game Coventry 1 game Fife 1 game Manchester 2 games Braehead 2 games Cardiff 2 games Sheffield 7 games Funnily enough did the same count up this morning. Went a step further though to show the mandatory bans (Match penalty called by official on the night) and DOPs bans (Additional games on match penalties and lesser penalties upgraded to match penalties on review) and I reckon the split is as follows: Sheffield Mandatory 0 / DOPs issued 7 Cardiff 1 / 1 Braehead 0 / 2 Manchester 2 / 0 Fife 0 / 1 Coventry 1 / 0 Edinburgh 0 / 1 So of 12 matches that DOPs have either issued on top of a match penalty or upgraded from a minor/major penalty to a match, 7 have seen Sheffield directly benefit! Might be squeaky clean the whole system but the statistics aren't half skewed!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2015 12:49:13 GMT
Lol, what an absolute joke of a league this is. Mickey Mouse would be insulted to have his name attached to it.
Anyway, I'm wondering if Thommo had a history of appeals with the Blaze or is it just the Squeelers in general?
Also, shouldn't we have a DOPS thread in the EIHL page?? This is clearly going to be an ongoing topic & is relative to the whole league.
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Post by Yotes on Oct 28, 2015 13:30:40 GMT
There you go Jord. All DOPS talk in here please, although if they ban one of ours please make a note of it in the injuries/suspensions thread too.
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Post by ted logan on Oct 28, 2015 13:58:51 GMT
You would also have to question, would they (Shuff) have gone running to DOPS if Manchester's next match had been against us in the league?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2015 15:49:53 GMT
There you go Jord. All DOPS talk in here please, although if they ban one of ours please make a note of it in the injuries/suspensions thread too. Cheers Yates, fun thread this one potentially....
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Post by thebestpanthers on Oct 28, 2015 15:56:46 GMT
Impossible stop being paranoid. Are steelers that poor they need to be playing weakened teams week in week out so it gives them a chance lol Yes they are Guess what - A one game ban - now it really stinks
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Post by thebestpanthers on Oct 28, 2015 16:15:58 GMT
The way things are currently going players will be scared to go within a foot of each other. Zero tolerance sanitized the game far too much as far as I'm concerned. Regards Doom Perhaps that is Thommo's plan..... We have Janssen - Steelers have -------------------------------------------------------------DOP's Expect us to get at least two bans after Saturdays game - but they will not be reviewed until just before our next game against them - don't know how they will swing that (may need a chairman's review) but I am sure they will find a way - players avoid Janssen for fear of being hit - players now avoid ANY Steelers player for fear of being suspended - needs to be addressed before it makes the league look amateurish - Oh - wait - too late
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2015 16:30:02 GMT
The rest of the teams in the league should down sticks/skates & refuse to play.
That'll show em', 1940's Italiano style.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2015 18:28:29 GMT
Anyone read Kirkham's interview on the EIHL website?
There's a very key line in there which sums up the current DOPS 'table' situation & guarantees we will ALWAYS be at the very bottom of it.
Can anyone find the relevant line....?
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Post by PantherG on Oct 29, 2015 20:34:35 GMT
Whilst I'm against all these suspensions for 'minor' incidents, I don't see what we have to gain from it tonight. It's a Challenge Cup game and we've already qualified, we're that desperate to win we're putting our back-up in goal, so I really don't see why anyone can assume we're desperate to gain some sort of an advantage. Regarding penalties and suspensions. I was watching an old Steelers v Panthers game from few years ago. There were all sorts of hits, little punches etc. with the likes of Zukiwsky being involved. The referee (Rowe) just told them to get on with the game without calling a penalty. This day and age it would be a penalty and a suspension. I thought it made for a much better spectacle letting the game flow. Obviously we don't want to see players headhunted with sticks, but most supporters enjoy a game with a physical edge. The way things are currently going players will be scared to go within a foot of each other. Zero tolerance sanitized the game far too much as far as I'm concerned. Regards Doom Agree, we are headed towards zero contact hockey and swiftly after dwindling crowds that will be almost impossible to get back. DOPS are OTT this season and it's ruining the game....l
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Post by Yotes on Oct 30, 2015 16:17:34 GMT
Anyone read Kirkham's interview on the EIHL website? There's a very key line in there which sums up the current DOPS 'table' situation & guarantees we will ALWAYS be at the very bottom of it. Can anyone find the relevant line....? I dunno whether this is the line, but this is certainly my problem with it: If you're a smaller team, why would you risk the money, especially if you won't directly benefit from any decision. Bigger teams will probably feel more ease about losing a review fee, but even then why would you if you don't benefit? Sheffield the other day with Caria, they benefit so they appeal, if Manchester play us next, why would they review that? It's more valuable for him to play. It becomes tactical, rather than about player safety. Also we had one earlier in the season where they picked up on a butt end by someone, forget who, while reviewing something else and did the guy for that. Why? It wasn't under review, no one had coughed up for it, they just happened to see it. I don't really care who DOPS are, just that the same level of "justice", if you like, gets applied to everyone, not differently depending on the fixture list, what DOPS happen to watch, and how much cash the club's got.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2015 16:35:02 GMT
Spot on with the line Yates.
Bearing in mind we apparently can't afford £50 quid for certain players how the hell are we going to fork out this cash for reviews?
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Post by Yotes on Oct 30, 2015 16:50:02 GMT
You'd think a man with 397 O's in his username would recognise another one when he sees it... I do not own a failed chain of wine lodges. You and Fishman (he does it too), you're on The List.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2015 18:04:53 GMT
Sorry Yates. Won't happen again.
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Post by fishman on Oct 30, 2015 18:19:08 GMT
Sorry Yates. Won't happen again. Liar, lol Sorry from me to, I guess the name is to do with Dogs, Arizona Coyotes.
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Post by allingtonskates on Nov 4, 2015 17:23:49 GMT
Kevin Noble(5 games and 4 left) and Joey Martian (1 game) Noble will miss a game agents us panthers, Clan twice and the Devils and Martian will miss a game agents the Manchester Storm
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Post by allingtonskates on Nov 4, 2015 17:28:42 GMT
Justin Faryna gets a 2 game ban agents the Sheffield Steelers and the Fife Flyers
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Post by iginla on Nov 4, 2015 18:21:55 GMT
About time Noble got banned,he's had a lot of the dangerous type of penalties.
He was the the one who tried to take out Logan Macmillan and got battered for it.
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Post by thebestpanthers on Nov 4, 2015 21:29:56 GMT
Anybody else seen the latest list of penalties issued by the DOPes Noble (Blaze) misses 5 games 1xStorm 1xDevils 1xUs & 2xClan
Martin (Devils) misses 1 game x Storm
Faryna (Stars) misses 2 games 1xFife & 1x Guess who
Sarich (Steelers) misses--------------------------------------------------------nothing
Think we need to be on our best behaviour in the next couple of games otherwise we will get a shed load of suspensions before we meet Steelers again
Anybody still think the DOPes are a good idea
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Post by thebestpanthers on Nov 4, 2015 21:39:19 GMT
Quote taken straight from Squeeltalk "I think the correct decision has been made. I'm glad they didn't suspend Rod just to quash the ant-steelers conspiracy theorists. We run this league and it's about time everybody else realised this." Hey ho
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