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Post by panthers_nyr on Oct 15, 2015 20:10:50 GMT
I'm hoping to hear "... a confrontation with Storm number 13..." many more times this season, it can become a running gag. Watching the videos though, I can't think there can be too many complaints about the bans? Only thing I don't like is them quoting the IIHF fighting rule, which we don't use. Over here you wouldn't necessarily get assessed a match penalty for starting a fight as far as I'm aware. I don't understand how they judge someone to be worthy of a match penalty for fighting, is it if a player no choices another or if they go to far, can you shed some light? I'm sure I read somewhere on Twitter that it is the usual 5 mins each if two players fight and are both willing but extra penalties are called if helmets etc. are taken off beforehand and it is only a match penalty if a player 'attacks' or attempts to fight an unwilling combatant.
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Post by wgray on Oct 15, 2015 21:28:16 GMT
I don't understand how they judge someone to be worthy of a match penalty for fighting, is it if a player no choices another or if they go to far, can you shed some light? I'm sure I read somewhere on Twitter that it is the usual 5 mins each if two players fight and are both willing but extra penalties are called if helmets etc. are taken off beforehand and it is only a match penalty if a player 'attacks' or attempts to fight an unwilling combatant. Thanks for that info, seems pretty fair
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Post by Yotes on Oct 15, 2015 22:45:34 GMT
I think any major penalty can result in a match penalty if the ref deems it severe enough, but in our league the rule they pop on screen in the video doesn't, to the best of my knowledge, apply. If one of our guys gets into a fight playing for GB, he'll get a match penalty.
It's a minor quibble, but just seems odd. Like DOPS maybe don't know we allow fighting. I would've thought the aggressor penalty would better cover both incidents really.
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Post by Yotes on Oct 20, 2015 11:49:21 GMT
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Post by GuinnessMan on Oct 20, 2015 12:35:48 GMT
Peacock and Lloyd under review prior to a double-header against Sheffield.
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Post by Rob Scott on Oct 20, 2015 12:36:46 GMT
Peacock and Lloyd under review prior to a double-header against Sheffield. DOTS
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Post by ted logan on Oct 22, 2015 19:10:21 GMT
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Post by PantherG on Oct 22, 2015 19:34:34 GMT
Call on Lloyd is really poor, no way is that conclusive.
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Post by thebestpanthers on Oct 22, 2015 19:51:44 GMT
First Caps - now Giants - who's next opponent is !!!!! - if we get any penalty calls this week-end beware of the long suspensions to follow (at least until the end of October anyway) - no conspiracy of course but had both games gone ahead this week-end would they have got two game bans - of course not, the DOP's are independent of the EIHL and their management (aren't they)
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Post by iginla on Oct 22, 2015 21:38:39 GMT
That is a very harsh call on Lloyd. Notice Andrew Hotham didn't take exception to it and he's just about picked a fight with his own shadow so far this season......that says something !
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Post by mournelass on Oct 22, 2015 21:56:21 GMT
And it turns out, it wasn't right. Even though he's got a game ban. See Belfast official site for footage that wasn't found til after the deadline had expired. ?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2015 22:01:47 GMT
Last time DOPS tried to fix a game it backfired, let's hope for the same again for the sake of the league & my general sanity.
We need to come up with a more accurate use for the acronym than Dept. of player safety.... The next caption competition for 'our friends' up the M1 perhaps....
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Post by ted logan on Oct 22, 2015 22:15:32 GMT
Last time DOPS tried to fix a game it backfired, let's hope for the same again for the sake of the league & my general sanity. We need to come up with a more accurate use for the acronym than Dept. of player safety.... The next caption competition for 'our friends' up the M1 perhaps.... Depends On who's Playing Steelers
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Post by Shorty on Oct 22, 2015 22:25:32 GMT
Deprive Opponents Playing Steelers
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2015 22:30:30 GMT
Do we know who is actually running the DOPS ship?
Have we any knowledge on this?
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Post by iginla on Oct 22, 2015 22:52:29 GMT
According to "checking it out" when Simon Kirkham was on,it sounded like he was one of them.
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Post by Rob Scott on Oct 23, 2015 6:44:31 GMT
DOTS
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Post by Thomas Elliott on Oct 23, 2015 6:57:59 GMT
Department Of Protecting Steelers
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2015 8:19:58 GMT
According to "checking it out" when Simon Kirkham was on,it sounded like he was one of them. Who's he? Connections to any club in the past?
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Post by thebestpanthers on Oct 23, 2015 8:31:32 GMT
Do we know who is actually running the DOPS ship? Have we any knowledge on this? Yes - they are completely independent of any EIHL management and the panel is made up of experts in the game, who's identities are not revealed to prevent them from being corrupted or pressurised - Only a very select few on the EIHL board are allowed contact with them, and in no way can they influence the outcome of any case. So their decisions are based purely on the facts and TOTALLY unbiased. So please stop this talk of conspiracies, it could never happen in our league, EIHL management would not allow one team to be favoured over another.
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Post by texpef on Oct 23, 2015 8:46:30 GMT
Do we know who is actually running the DOPS ship? Have we any knowledge on this? Yes - they are completely independent of any EIHL management and the panel is made up of experts in the game, who's identities are not revealed to prevent them from being corrupted or pressurised - Only a very select few on the EIHL board are allowed contact with them, and in no way can they influence the outcome of any case. So their decisions are based purely on the facts and TOTALLY unbiased. So please stop this talk of conspiracies, it could never happen in our league, EIHL management would not allow one team to be favoured over another. Other than perhaps the league chairman eh!!! allegedly...
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Post by thebestpanthers on Oct 23, 2015 9:24:49 GMT
Yes - they are completely independent of any EIHL management and the panel is made up of experts in the game, who's identities are not revealed to prevent them from being corrupted or pressurised - Only a very select few on the EIHL board are allowed contact with them, and in no way can they influence the outcome of any case. So their decisions are based purely on the facts and TOTALLY unbiased. So please stop this talk of conspiracies, it could never happen in our league, EIHL management would not allow one team to be favoured over another. Other than perhaps the league chairman eh!!! allegedly... He wouldn't - would he??? what benefit would he get out of it ? - it's not football you know - and unlike some owners he is in it for the good of the club and the league, not like some who are only in it for the profit
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Post by texpef on Oct 23, 2015 13:05:17 GMT
Other than perhaps the league chairman eh!!! allegedly... He wouldn't - would he??? what benefit would he get out of it ? - it's not football you know - and unlike some owners he is in it for the good of the club and the league, not like some who are only in it for the profit Think you hit the nail there he is in it for the good of the club and a long way back from that maybe the league...
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Post by thebestpanthers on Oct 23, 2015 14:10:45 GMT
He wouldn't - would he??? what benefit would he get out of it ? - it's not football you know - and unlike some owners he is in it for the good of the club and the league, not like some who are only in it for the profit Think you hit the nail there he is in it for the good of the club and a long way back from that maybe the league... Surely you are not insinuating that he might put club above league - would that not be thought a "conflict of interests" - as league chairman he would never let that happen, would he?
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Post by wgray on Oct 23, 2015 14:52:25 GMT
According to "checking it out" when Simon Kirkham was on,it sounded like he was one of them. Who's he? Connections to any club in the past? He's a former referee, did it for years, not sure of any connections however
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