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Post by Yotes on Oct 15, 2015 17:38:49 GMT
Must've heard the Lapdog was going to become their appearance record holder and couldn't bring themselves to watch.
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Oct 15, 2015 19:20:50 GMT
Edinburgh were about 4 imports down last night in Sheffield and look what happened. ? And what about the crowd,only 1126 at Ice Sheffield.......that's appalling ! Wow! I thought ours was bad enough on Sunday but 1126 ?
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Post by Shaggy on Oct 15, 2015 20:00:58 GMT
No because you have the depth of your British players. You take Dowd, Duco, Nelson + 2 more out of our squad, we're quite thin on the ground and severely lack quality. How much quality - in comparison to the undoubtedly higher-level Steelers roster - were Edinburgh missing last night? I believe that I read somewhere that they borrowed some players from the Steeldogs... possibly the cheapest roster in the EIHL, missing their suddenly-quit captain, and making up the numbers with EPL players... and they still had a shorter bench than Sheffield! The lesson from last night - and this was a lesson that Edinburgh taught us in our Grand Slam year, so this isn't just about last night - is that will trumps talent... that an allegedly lower-quality team that is properly motivated and plays to a plan can beat an allegedly higher-quality team that... well, doesn't. Saturday's game will be won by the team that plays better, simple as.
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Post by Shorty on Oct 15, 2015 21:21:31 GMT
Emerson out coached Thommo !
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Post by John Casey on Oct 15, 2015 22:22:22 GMT
To tell you the truth, I don't even know what a win does for us in our CC Group (shows how much I care about it) however this is a very important game as it will set a marker (where hopefully if we crush them it will surely demoralise the Steelers).
In truth this should be a very competitive and enjoyable game and one I'm very looking forward to seeing.
On the Challenge Cup format, I'm believing that maybe the top 2 teams qualify for the Semi-Finals and do away with the Quarter Finals. This I believe may eliminate some dead rubber games also the Quarter Finals would probably end up being doubled up with League games anyway.
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Post by kievthegreat on Oct 15, 2015 22:55:06 GMT
To tell you the truth, I don't even know what a win does for us in our CC Group (shows how much I care about it) however this is a very important game as it will set a marker (where hopefully if we crush them it will surely demoralise the Steelers). In truth this should be a very competitive and enjoyable game and one I'm very looking forward to seeing. On the Challenge Cup format, I'm believing that maybe the top 2 teams qualify for the Semi-Finals and do away with the Quarter Finals. This I believe may eliminate some dead rubber games also the Quarter Finals would probably end up being doubled up with League games anyway. Not much really. A win puts us top, 1 point ahead of Sheffield and 3 ahead of Cardiff. However Sheffield have Manchester in their last game and Cardiff have 2 to play against the Blaze which I would expect them to win. That would put us in 3rd (can't finish lower no matter the result Saturday). Looking at them the Blaze I'd say have the best chance of an upset purely because playing last, they'll know if they need to win to qualify.
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Post by thesponge666 on Oct 17, 2015 17:53:20 GMT
Should be very interesting. Can't wait for face off
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Post by thesponge666 on Oct 17, 2015 18:45:56 GMT
Both teams playing well.
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Post by wgray on Oct 17, 2015 19:40:28 GMT
Panthers poor in the second, 5 sog, Lacho yet to turn up in a big game
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Post by thesponge666 on Oct 17, 2015 20:28:11 GMT
Panthers poor in the second, 5 sog, Lacho yet to turn up in a big game Very sloppy in the second, and steelers took advantage of it
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Post by allingtonskates on Oct 17, 2015 20:28:37 GMT
We were poor they made us look like we haven't played together before. Clarke was dredfull, Steve lee and terrible as well. Wiikman was great and we looked like we only had one line.
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Post by thesponge666 on Oct 17, 2015 20:30:35 GMT
Tough game. Both teams played well. Although at times we looked like we hadn't played together, That's when steelers hut us. Steve Lee needs to switch on
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Post by allingtonskates on Oct 17, 2015 20:43:04 GMT
Tough game. Both teams played well. Although at times we looked like we hadn't played together, That's when steelers hut us. Steve Lee needs to switch on yeah and Clarke does
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Post by pantherdman on Oct 17, 2015 20:50:12 GMT
Good first 10 mins then utter dross. Scared to shoot and without a clue. Throw back to last season. How long do we have to chase shadows before Nielsen will call a time out.
Get ling in now, a power forward and a d man. We need to use full import slots, shuff barely had any Brits playing and it showed because ours were rubbish and our imports didn't want it. Bar milkka who was superb.
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Post by lepine28 on Oct 17, 2015 20:53:11 GMT
I'm not about to write this team off yet as I believe we have two class players to come in which will change the whole complexion.
Let's be fair though, that could have been a cricket score. We coughed the puck up time after time and couldn't string two passes together.
It's probably time for Corey to stop persisting with these two imports and a Brit lines as unfortunately they clearly aren't good enough. Clarke and Myers are shadows of their former selves and are offering nothing at present.
Let's hope that's the wake up call everyone needs.
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Post by thesponge666 on Oct 17, 2015 20:56:27 GMT
Good first 10 mins then utter dross. Scared to shoot and without a clue. Throw back to last season. How long do we have to chase shadows before Nielsen will call a time out. Get ling in now, a power forward and a d man. We need to use full import slots, shuff barely had any Brits playing and it showed because ours were rubbish and our imports didn't want it. Bar milkka who was superb. Agreed Can't wait for ling to come but I personally think we need some speed. Milkka is a quality netminder but he's being let down by the d', tonight anyway with sloppy play.
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Post by Ghost on Oct 17, 2015 21:02:54 GMT
Oh dear oh dear. The irony is that the guy who scored the GWG gets absolutely slated by the Panthers fanbase (quite rightly) whilst the British equivalent of Lawrence, David Clarke is loved by a significant representation of the fanbase! Even worse than that, he's club captain!
The guy is so lazy I'd go as far as saying he's worse than Lawrence. He's in it for his ego and nothing else.
Lee was woeful once again, he seems to get every single offensive zone start and it's beyond me why that is. He offers next to no offensive talent, he has a fairly decent shot but he never uses it. Instead, he sticks to what he's (not) good at and tries to make magic passes and creates a turnover.
All in all, panthers looked like the side who were missing more players. They were badly out worked by a steelers side that I wouldn't consider to be one of their better teams and that is simply unforgivable. CC or not, they should all realise what that fixture means to the club and fans.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2015 21:03:54 GMT
Best team we've played all season, comfortably. Shut us down real well. Only Schulz looked interested to me. Fair play to them.
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Post by allingtonskates on Oct 17, 2015 21:09:34 GMT
Best team we've played all season, comfortably. Shut us down real well. Only Schulz looked interested to me. Fair play to them. I think Wiikman was superb
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Post by Optic on Oct 17, 2015 21:10:29 GMT
Swidlehurst had a shocker tonight.
Sheffield are spot on, always forechecking had giving us no room to do anything
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2015 21:13:22 GMT
Best team we've played all season, comfortably. Shut us down real well. Only Schulz looked interested to me. Fair play to them. I think Wiikman was superb He will want the second back but I agree he was good, yes.
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Oct 17, 2015 21:14:22 GMT
Lee was dreadful with passes going everywhere but to a team mate, Clarke absolutely stunk and our inability to clear our zone was a throw back to the last two years. We have some excellent players but totally out played and out coached by a far better drilled team.
The first PP goal was very good but as soon as Sheffield woke up that was it.
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Post by cooperphil156 on Oct 17, 2015 21:16:01 GMT
Fair result. We were nowhere second period. I was wondering how we were going to get back into the game when Schmidt scored - courtesy I think of a deflection. We seemed to be crowded out very easily, while they had a man pulling into space for the man on the puck to off load to. We seemed to very often work the puck out to the wings and only for the move fizzled out. When we had a shot again it seems to be with a lot of bodies in front. Shultz and Bombach always carry a threat, but I was expecting more from McMillan, Moran and Kolnic. We also seemed to be too easily muscled off the puck. However Ling should help on the creativity side and it gives Corey some thing to think about.
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Post by Mark on Oct 17, 2015 21:29:17 GMT
Big difference tonight was Sheffield have cover in Hay and brought in Lawrence because of injuries whilst the Panthers have basically sat on their hands in the face of an incomplete roster and injuries. The British contingent are letting us down too. Lachowitz is hopeless, Clarke is just missing, Lee isn't playing to his potential. I have some sympathy for Swindlehurst and Oakford who are being asked to do too much, mainly due to a lack of import d-men. Lost count of the turnovers and misplaced passes but the Steelers out worked us too.
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Oct 17, 2015 21:31:20 GMT
Big difference tonight was Sheffield have cover in Hay and brought in Lawrence because of injuries whilst the Panthers have basically sat on their hands in the face of an incomplete roster and injuries. The British contingent are letting us down too. Lachowitz is hopeless, Clarke is just missing, Lee isn't playing to his potential. I have some sympathy for Swindlehurst and Oakford who are being asked to do too much, mainly due to a lack of import d-men. Lost count of the turnovers and misplaced passes but the Steelers out worked us too. For the amount of the budget we have spent on the Brits we could rip the league up with imports.
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