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Post by fishman on Feb 15, 2015 14:46:04 GMT
Did Panthers go with 4 forwards and 1 D on PP when Steelers scored a shorthanded goal???
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2015 14:55:54 GMT
The fact is Cohen is a defenceman, not a forward. Its not his fault if his team mates ain t anticipating when hes going to pass them the puck. Schmidt and Berube were once again on another planet.... one of those has to make room when wild returns. Oh and perhaps if we had signed lepine type d man we wouldn t have lost 2 d men to head shots missing tonnes of games in the process
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Post by panthersnation on Feb 15, 2015 15:06:56 GMT
The fact is Cohen is a defenceman, not a forward. Its not his fault if his team mates ain t anticipating when hes going to pass them the puck. Schmidt and Berube were once again on another planet.... one of those has to make room when wild returns. Oh and perhaps if we had signed lepine type d man we wouldn t have lost 2 d men to head shots missing tonnes of games in the process Don't blame berube couch coach will not like this!! |
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Post by barthez on Feb 15, 2015 15:20:33 GMT
there a very good reason couchcoach is a couch coach not a hockey coach
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Post by jd on Feb 15, 2015 16:03:34 GMT
No goal scorer on the team, no playermaker, no faceoff winning centre and no tough guy. Add DAB, Clarke (his absense is massive - dont care what people say) Fox and Lepine to this team and we would be at the top. Graham is so slow and lazy its unreal. Lawrence, Berube and Landry should have gone by now.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2015 16:15:41 GMT
No goal scorer on the team, no playermaker, no faceoff winning centre and no tough guy. Add DAB, Clarke (his absense is massive - dont care what people say) Fox and Lepine to this team and we would be at the top. Graham is so slow and lazy its unreal. Lawrence, Berube and Landry should have gone by now. LANDRY?! Really?! One of the best finds of the season for me. Want him and Wild back on D next year with a tougher DMan who throws checks. Sadly Schmidt seems to like to play non-contact. |
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Post by jd on Feb 15, 2015 16:17:04 GMT
No goal scorer on the team, no playermaker, no faceoff winning centre and no tough guy. Add DAB, Clarke (his absense is massive - dont care what people say) Fox and Lepine to this team and we would be at the top. Graham is so slow and lazy its unreal. Lawrence, Berube and Landry should have gone by now. LANDRY?! Really?! One of the best finds of the season for me. Want him and Wild back on D next year with a tougher DMan who throws checks. Sadly Schmidt seems to like to play non-contact. YES REALLY, cant stand him. Looks weak on the puck and coughs it up way too much |
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Post by PantherB on Feb 15, 2015 16:39:40 GMT
LANDRY?! Really?! One of the best finds of the season for me. Want him and Wild back on D next year with a tougher DMan who throws checks. Sadly Schmidt seems to like to play non-contact. YES REALLY, cant stand him. Looks weak on the puck and coughs it up way too much Landry is our best defenceman. Still shocked as to why he came over here when he was up and down between ECHL and AHL. He's the sort of player you have to focus on and watch for a whole shift to see how good he is, got a pretty accurate shot too as we've seen a few times from the edge of the FM Suddafix faceoff circle. |
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Post by jd on Feb 15, 2015 16:53:37 GMT
YES REALLY, cant stand him. Looks weak on the puck and coughs it up way too much Landry is our best defenceman. Still shocked as to why he came over here when he was up and down between ECHL and AHL. He's the sort of player you have to focus on and watch for a whole shift to see how good he is, got a pretty accurate shot too as we've seen a few times from the edge of the FM Suddafix faceoff circle. Landry isnt our best d man imo, Wild is. Him, Berube and Schmidt have been average all season for me |
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Post by jdizpt8 on Feb 15, 2015 16:59:44 GMT
Schmidt has been pants all year, how has he not been replaced, turns slower then a boat, no speed and doesn't hit! Berube ive lost patience with, decent in games but I thought he was policing things this year? Just stands around when things get rough, Landry I rate and would have him back next year. We've missed Salters massively this season, just hope we make the CC final and playoff finals weekend!
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Post by Ian on Feb 15, 2015 17:20:31 GMT
On the issue of our import D-men:
Cohen - Looks head and shoulders above every other player, but as we saw with Robinson that doesn't necessarily make you the most effective. Seems torn between making plays that his team mates might not keep up with and trying to do it all on his own to make up for it.
Wild - Did not rate him as highly as many did, except for his Powerplay qualities. But we haven't half missed him since he's been out injured, so obviously was a bigger part of our system than I had realised. The sooner he's back, the better.
Landry - Solid stay at home D-man who has scored a couple of really big goals too. Probably needs to play alongside someone with more physical dominance to really shine if (and I hope he is) he is here next season.
Berube - Frustrating. Always looks like he has more he could give. Does some excellent work but is one of the worst offenders for making schoolboy errors (these two things often happen on the same shift). Personal view is that he makes far too many mistakes and he'd be the D-man to sit out when we have a full set to choose from.
Schmidt - Frustrating. Seems to have good awareness but another who makes lots of mistakes. Doesn't use his size enough either. However, I think he offers a bit more than Berube (or perhaps makes a couple less errors, not sure which).
Mosey - Solid and his speed is an asset when it comes to covering (especially when the opponents break out) and our transition. Has way exceeded my expectations with his performances on D and in attack (although I think he offers us more up front).
I also think the total contrast in our netminders' styles is not helping the D. K-Wall has excellent rebound control and gets it to the corners, he also likes to get out of his net and handle the puck, while Modig tends to drop rebounds in the slot for the D to clear up and doesn't seem as confident on the puck. It cannot be easy having to adapt the way you play from week to week to reflect who is in goal. Not an excuse as such - these guys are experienced professionals - but it's hard enough when you're playing in front of the same man every game and know his style inside out.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2015 20:07:25 GMT
Did Panthers go with 4 forwards and 1 D on PP when Steelers scored a shorthanded goal??? Yes, a common 'tactic' on our PP. Criticism of Landry is bizarre, he's easily our best natural Dman. In fact our whole D has been fine on the whole all season imo. As mentioned previously the recent changing of keepers hasn't helped. Made us looked a tad shaky lately. The forwards & the coaches deserve far more criticism than the D. |
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Post by team on Feb 15, 2015 21:17:57 GMT
Did Panthers go with 4 forwards and 1 D on PP when Steelers scored a shorthanded goal??? Yes, a common 'tactic' on our PP. Criticism of Landry is bizarre, he's easily our best natural Dman. In fact our whole D has been fine on the whole all season imo. As mentioned previously the recent changing of keepers hasn't helped. Made us looked a tad shaky lately. The forwards & the coaches deserve far more criticism than the D. Would like to see Mosey on PP blue line. Probably no short handed on him. Need to change up PP IN MANY WAYS |
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Post by BigLad on Feb 16, 2015 9:22:46 GMT
Playing blind passes in our own zone in front of the net has been the biggest problem all season, even when we were playing well we'd still do it.
Seems to me there's a big lack of confidence in the team at the moment and boy are we missing Wild!
Oh for someone in the Fox mould who can take the game by the scruff of it's neck. Remember when we lost at home to Edinburgh and Fox came out and said that it wasn't good enough? Well three losses on the bounce now, it's put up or shut up time.
Don't think we can afford to drop any more points if we're serious about the league. We've proved we can go on a run before, that's what's needed again...starting with a dominant display on Thursday in the cup please!!
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Post by cjmatt42 on Feb 16, 2015 12:56:21 GMT
Don't think there is a lot to add that hasn't been said.
Parent is a massive miss and for me one of our unsung heroes, wins a reasonable proportion of face offs, go to guy on the penalty kill and ultimately that was where we lost the game. Before the weekend the home PK unit was working at around 90% compared to Saturday's 60% and Parent is key to that.
Away from the special teams it was a poor game played out by two sides that were scared to lose the game and that showed with mistakes all over. Steelers took advantage of Powerplay time and that was the difference, away from that there was nothing between the sides.
Powerplay clearly needs a rethink, can't believe we haven't seen Landry get a go on the powerplay, scored 2 great goals in 2 games from the circle and is a lot more mobile than Schmidt going backwards. Again missed Parent for a net front presence at the weekend.
We've generally been solid without being spectacular all season and as such when we don't get the result there is an outpouring of dissatisfaction from all corners. Saturday wasn't that much worse than other tight games we have nicked and other games we will nick between now and the end of the year. Move on get behind the team for a big game next weekend.
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Post by PantherB on Feb 16, 2015 17:05:31 GMT
Landry is our best defenceman. Still shocked as to why he came over here when he was up and down between ECHL and AHL. He's the sort of player you have to focus on and watch for a whole shift to see how good he is, got a pretty accurate shot too as we've seen a few times from the edge of the FM Suddafix faceoff circle. Landry isnt our best d man imo, Wild is. Him, Berube and Schmidt have been average all season for me I'd say Landry and Wild are on the same level but for different reasons. Wild is a great offensive minded defenceman, one of our top point scorers, similar to Chris Murray in the sense he gets a lot of assists, his defensive side i wouldn't say is brilliant, can be quite error prone but then again, who isn't. Landry on the other hand, got great awareness and vision and a great pass comes with that, his head literally doesn't stop moving when he's on the ice. He's also quite physical and protective of whoever we have in goal, not afraid to get in there and show players they can't touch or spray our goalie. As for Schmidt and Berube, both have had some good points but also a lot of negative points but nothing majorly wrong, average to decent players. We wouldn't have one of the best if not the best defence in the league if they were awful really. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2015 18:23:05 GMT
Yes, a common 'tactic' on our PP. Criticism of Landry is bizarre, he's easily our best natural Dman. In fact our whole D has been fine on the whole all season imo. As mentioned previously the recent changing of keepers hasn't helped. Made us looked a tad shaky lately. The forwards & the coaches deserve far more criticism than the D. Would like to see Mosey on PP blue line. Probably no short handed on him. Need to change up PP IN MANY WAYS Mosey on the blue line would be a disaster. He's probably the most limited import we have creativity wise. Has elite speed but little else. Hence why he's at our level and looking decent. |
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Post by iginla on Feb 16, 2015 18:54:37 GMT
I agree with you Jordanoooooo regarding Mosey.
His effort is top notch,his speed a major asset,but skill wise he is very lacking.
His great speed has created himself a lot of one on one breakaways,but he very very rarely puts it in the back of the net.
Our pp was never great,but take out Wild,Clarkey and Lee and any team would struggle !
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Post by dp on Feb 16, 2015 20:38:18 GMT
Completely agree on Mosey - as soon as I saw him play his decision making seemed very poor and it was clear why he's not played at a higher level - yeah occasionally a good un slips through the net, but generally the top scouts and coaches in NA are in their jobs for a reason and if good players kept getting missed they'd not be in a job for long.
I remember somebody summing this year's team up perfectly - lack of skill and talent being made up for by hard work. If they all work as hard as they can then we'll win quite a few games just by outworking the team. We lose when the other team work just as hard, or Panthers don't go at full tilt. It's just the complete opposite of Sexy Neilson Hockey.
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Post by iginla on Feb 16, 2015 21:49:28 GMT
Spot on dp.
If the other team works just as hard.....then extra skill usually wins the game.
And that's our failing this year,we have the workhorses,but not enough craft and skill.
Mosey is still young and inexperienced,I like him a lot,but a finished Dman or a forward he isn't at present,he is the perfect dual purpose player to do a job for the team.
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