GDT: Panthers 2:3 Steelers (EIHL, 14/2/15)

[panthersdave]

Feb 14, 2015 22:41:52 GMT @jordannooooooo said:

Lawrence gets far more stick here than Graham yet he has been the better player all season by some distance.

Anyway, great to have Stef back. The kids game was pretty cool as well. News Paws though...... Jeez.

Oh absolutely, Graham has been awful and brings nothing to this team.

If I was Max Parent I would mightily wee weed off tonight.

[franco]

What was the final score

[pantherdman]

Awful in every aspect.
No grit to the game at all.
Toughness has been replaced by diving and cheap shots.
Terrible tactics
Horrible refereeing, what does Baldwin have to do to get an instegator?
Both teams were average at best.
Farmer is our player of the year, what does that tell you?

If only we could find a player of quality and speed who can pick a pass and unlock a defence? Someone like the chap belfast just signed.

Oh well, we stayed in it until February this year, that's good for us.

[panthersnation]

Feb 14, 2015 22:41:52 GMT @jordannooooooo said:

Lawrence gets far more stick here than Graham yet he has been the better player all season by some distance.

Anyway, great to have Stef back. The kids game was pretty cool as well. News Paws though...... Jeez.

why where has stef been?

[iginla]

Apart from Doucet and Benny that was truly awful !
Reffing poor and never got a lucky bounce all night,but that's an excuse for a team that's still not good enough.

Lawrence wasn't very good tonight,but my vote for shocking game of the night has to go to Cohen,he was bloody abysmal !

[Mark]

Wionder if we'll get any honesty from the coaching staff and management?

[iginla]

I doubt it Mark.

They usually hide when we lose and wheel out Strachs or Boxill !

[ted logan]

I've seen much worse refereeing performance but how on earth did that mardy turd Baldwin not get an instigator penalty?

Not that any criticism of the stripeys should detract from what was an abysmal performance from the home team.

[Deleted]

Feb 14, 2015 22:52:50 GMT panthersnation said:

Feb 14, 2015 22:41:52 GMT @jordannooooooo said:

Lawrence gets far more stick here than Graham yet he has been the better player all season by some distance.

Anyway, great to have Stef back. The kids game was pretty cool as well. News Paws though...... Jeez.

why where has stef been?

Apologies, wrong person. 

Thanks for pointing it out to me in such a good way. 

[Yotes]

I thought you meant now Gary wasn't nicking all of his lines

Everything said on the game already. I don't think they're all that, but they deserved the points tonight.

[Deleted]

Feb 14, 2015 23:12:05 GMT Yotes said:

I thought you meant now Gary wasn't nicking all of his lines

PENALTY FOR PANTHERS!!!!!!!!!!!

[Robbie Nud]

Let's see what the excuse for tonight will be by the club.
Players not following the system?
Officiating?
Something else?

Maybe the system doesn't work? How many times have we heard that we lost because the players didn't follow the system.
Officiating? Regardless how cack they were and mickey hickey never disappoints on how to be poor.
In essence, we didn't play to win, we didn't fight for the packing and showed very little passion.
The only thing that has changed in the last few games is how worse our PP is, it has been poor but now it's abysmal. It doesn't matter how much passing you do but unless you put a shot on goal you're never going to score.

Has CN & RS run out of ideas? Recruited wrong? Because whatever it is, it's not right.

[Bolts]

Yeah blamed the systems. Execution wrong blah blah

Just say we were poo poo and it won't happen again

[Ian]

Truly dreadful performance from the Panthers tonight. Only a very few players come out of that with any credit whatsoever and some should be ashamed to pick up their pay cheques. We have seen some bad performances this season, and that is to some extent excusable as players can only do what they are capable of, but tonight it looked to me like there were several players who gave it up and simply did not fight tooth and nail for the full 60 minutes to win that match, which is not acceptable. Too many players were leaving the responsibility of chasing loose pucks, picking up opposition men etc. to others, preferring just to meander around the ice or back to the bench. The coach can talk all he wants about systems and execution but we make far too many schoolboy errors that the players wouldn't have been allowed to get away with in under 10s. That simple fact is the reason why I've never felt we would make a realistic league title challenge and still don't. Personally, I think our good post-Christmas run up to last weekend masked the problems that have been there all along and even during that run we were getting away with mediocre performances and sneaking odd-goal wins. No doubt talent is there, and we can beat any team on our day, so we could end up winning the cup or playoffs, which of course would be great, but the league is out of this squad's reach in my opinion.

While Steelers deserved the victory tonight, I have to say that if those were two teams still in contention for all trophies that does not say much about the quality of the league this season.

[couchcoach]

Good thing Panthersnation isn't coach.....if Cohen would of had to play more minutes than he did the Steelers would have won by double digits

[HoHoHo]

Maybe the coaches are trying to teach mediocre players systems they cant perform.

[panthersnation]

Feb 15, 2015 2:32:19 GMT couchcoach said:

Good thing Panthersnation isn't coach.....if Cohen would of had to play more minutes than he did the Steelers would have won by double digits

i did not mention cohen playing more mins?

[couchcoach]

The coaches should have never changed the system they were using from mid December to end of January. We were using a hard 2-1-2 and 1-2-2 for check which is when the team was successful.
They have since changed to the 1-4 system and it sucks. This team is not formatted to play a trap game and that's where the losses are coming from.
Sitting back waiting for the opposition to screw up is costly.the majority of our forwards are not defensively minded enough to play this. They are leaving the zone before gaining possession.
Again why change something that's working?

As for the Panthernation comment, if they would have ran with just 5 dman as you suggested, then yes his minutes would have increased, that goes with out saying I think.

[fishman]

Didn't go to the game still recovering from man-flu, just listened to steelers head coach saying they played very very well, and if Panthers played poor and the score was only 2-3 and only 2 shots more on goal??

This team can play good hockey,(away wins prove that) but if all the team have an off day and that sounds like the performance last night,

One thing is none of the other team are that much better and they can all beat each other on any given night.

CN and RS seem to go with a system of play until it implodes, I think we will see a better team performance in the CC semi's.

go have a look at this web page predators.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=753441

[Deleted]

No complaints from me, not good enough, performance well well below par, yet again serious lack of effort from #18 again !!! Graham, Jacina and Higgins not far behind . The key point was that farce of a SH goal just before the end of period 2. Lawrence with another lazy play and what the hell was Modig doing, im seriously losing confidence in him, at one point he was closer to the puck than Roy was yet hesitated . Did I read somepone saying Cohen was poor! jeez what game were you watching it terms of reading the game he was 2-3 pages ahead of his teammates, had he not played steelers could have had 6 at least , why do you think he log 40 mins a night and plays in every situation .

Anyway I guarantee a different panthers team will turn up in Sheffield on Thursday, hopefully Kwall and Wild return!

[The Flying Shirt]

Feb 15, 2015 11:58:21 GMT @pidge said:

No complaints from me, not good enough, performance well well below par, yet again serious lack of effort from #18 again !!! Graham, Jacina and Higgins not far behind . The key point was that farce of a SH goal just before the end of period 2. Lawrence with another lazy play and what the hell was Modig doing, im seriously losing confidence in him, at one point he was closer to the puck than Roy was yet hesitated . Did I read somepone saying Cohen was poor! jeez what game were you watching it terms of reading the game he was 2-3 pages ahead of his teammates, had he not played steelers could have had 6 at least , why do you think he log 40 mins a night and plays in every situation .

Anyway I guarantee a different panthers team will turn up in Sheffield on Thursday, hopefully Kwall and Wild return!

Because Cohen sets his own standards. His passing was the main problem last night, he is an excellent quaterback on plays but when your passing is not connecting he has a bad game.

[The Flying Shirt]

Feb 15, 2015 11:28:48 GMT fishman said:

Didn't go to the game still recovering from man-flu, just listened to steelers head coach saying they played very very well, and if Panthers played poor and the score was only 2-3 and only 2 shots more on goal??

This team can play good hockey,(away wins prove that) but if all the team have an off day and that sounds like the performance last night,

One thing is none of the other team are that much better and they can all beat each other on any given night.

CN and RS seem to go with a system of play until it implodes, I think we will see a better team performance in the CC semi's.

go have a look at this web page predators.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=753441

We have lost the last three and the performance last night was exactly the same as the 2nd and 3rd period of the Hull game.

[jdizpt8]

Poor performance, big players didn't turn up, just heard that Lawrence and Graham have turned up at the rink to play, but late guys, Parent to be left out a game like this is poor, very underrated player and personally think he along with Juice, Benny and Farner are the only players who bust a gut to play for the team and the rest just skate through. We've got the capability to beat every team we've proved it already this season, the sooner Lee and Wild are back the better, hugely frustrated with Berube! If Hewitt elbows your star forward don't just give him a nudge no option him and beat the crap out of him! Too many players half bumming it this year!!

[Deleted]

Feb 15, 2015 11:58:21 GMT @pidge said:

No complaints from me, not good enough, performance well well below par, yet again serious lack of effort from #18 again !!! Graham, Jacina and Higgins not far behind . The key point was that farce of a SH goal just before the end of period 2. Lawrence with another lazy play and what the hell was Modig doing, im seriously losing confidence in him, at one point he was closer to the puck than Roy was yet hesitated . Did I read somepone saying Cohen was poor! jeez what game were you watching it terms of reading the game he was 2-3 pages ahead of his teammates, had he not played steelers could have had 6 at least , why do you think he log 40 mins a night and plays in every situation .

Anyway I guarantee a different panthers team will turn up in Sheffield on Thursday, hopefully Kwall and Wild return!

It was me & I was definitely watching a different game to you, as I often do funnily enough. Cohen's offensive D play was terrible. Defensively sound but that's not his main role imo. 

[iginla]

It was me too.

Time and again Cohen kept starting the pp in our end,skates forward,gets near the Steelers blue line,thinks oh lord now what do I do with it and passes to a guy with a man right on him.....aaaaaarrrgghh.
And again and again and again !

Comeback quick Cody Wild,the only guy who makes this team tick !!!!!!!!