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Post by pantherlee on Mar 24, 2024 13:24:44 GMT
Tetlow on the ice for all four goals conceded. 🙄 And both scored… Yes but that particular doesn’t help the agenda so we’ll ignore that 😉 In all seriousness though I don’t see the point in persevering with Tetlow. I don’t think he’ll make any significant improvements and if we keep Hazeldine then I think we’d be much stronger with 5 import D
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Post by pantherlee on Mar 23, 2024 22:45:57 GMT
Just sat in the pub chewing the fat with my mates. As has been mentioned in a few posts, I thought we was brilliant 1st and deserved to go in with a lead. Unfortunately it was like a different team came back out for the 2nd and 3rd. It was men against boys. Some awful plays and some pretty shocking goaltending. Can’t wait for this season to be over now and another re build incoming. I feel for the guys with what happened but generally not they bothered about many of them returning as to put it simply, they haven’t been good enough. Another loss tomorrow then can’t lose another game this season if they want to make the play offs (which i highly doubt) We really are a team that can be split in 2. The first half with really good players. Roy, Nieminen, Henbrant, Neilson, Lunsjo, Neill, Despres, Hazeldine. The other consists of complete duds. Anderson, Pare, Welsh, Ryczek, McGurty, Tetlow, Stojanovic. So we might have good players but you’re not winning much with that many duds.
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Post by pantherlee on Mar 23, 2024 22:20:45 GMT
I meant Tetlow passing it straight to him. Tetlow on the ice for all four goals conceded. 🙄 You can’t blame him for all 4 though on the ice or not. Though the one he was at fault for was a shocker. 1st was solely down to Rok being a sieve again and the other 2 were just good plays from Steelers
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Post by pantherlee on Mar 23, 2024 20:16:43 GMT
It was but the assist from Nieminen was even better. Assist of the season for me
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Post by pantherlee on Mar 19, 2024 9:47:38 GMT
Absolutely love them. Haven’t bought a jersey for some time now but these might just tempt me. Never been a fan of themed jerseys but the retro one from last season and this do look good
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Post by pantherlee on Mar 17, 2024 21:06:32 GMT
I suppose going to lots of games helps me see both sides. I can see the old chestnut ' I go to games so my point is more valid ' coming out .. 😴 Ironic you using a snoring emoji when your constant monotonous drivel puts everyone on here to sleep
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Post by pantherlee on Mar 16, 2024 20:38:29 GMT
Now you know you’re just being completely obtuse and ignoring all the circumstances this season. GG and RC built two of the worst and most awful to watch teams put together since I’ve been watching What about all the other Canadians/Americans who have produced quality teams around the league over the years? Well when the sport here consists of probably around 80% North Americans that’s hardly surprising is it? Bottom line is I don’t care really what nationality they are as long as they can improve our team
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Post by pantherlee on Mar 16, 2024 20:17:20 GMT
Like Gary Graham or Rich Chernomaz?! They still have a higher success rate than a European lol Now you know you’re just being completely obtuse and ignoring all the circumstances this season. GG and RC built two of the worst and most awful to watch teams put together since I’ve been watching
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Post by pantherlee on Mar 16, 2024 20:11:02 GMT
His first year in England and had to cope with the AJ tragedy. Could quite easily have gone back to France and family if he wanted. Next year would be so much wiser. Should be up to him if he wants to stay and what he wants. If you look elsewhere, you’ve either got to poach a coach with experience of this league or take a chance on another rookie with no EIHL experience. On balance, I’m prepared to give him another shot, if he wants it, but with his own requirements rather than Pacha filling the roster. If you're serious about winning you poach a decent coach , someone who is used to the North American style which this league plays. Like Gary Graham or Rich Chernomaz?!
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Post by pantherlee on Mar 16, 2024 14:52:35 GMT
I dont think competing for the league would've hapoened, but considering Belfast have been poor and the rest are much of a muchness I think we could've easily competed for 4th and maybe even 3rd this season. Yes but back in October not many would have predicted Belfast to be so hot and cold throughout the season. Panthers always seem to lose points in those greasy mid week games . And win those big profile Saturday night Cardiff ones . They'll continue to be down the bottom until they sort out that god awful defence and netminding irrespective of how many points the likes of Roy and Michaud rake up Which is hopefully something that will at least be attempted to remedy in the summer. The only import D I could see being retained is Neill. Let Tetlow go and keep Hazeldine and sign a goalie who isn’t a sieve. You mention Roy and Michaud and I’d add Nieminen, Henbrant and Lunsjo to that list as players who have done well and put up the points and are well worth retaining. Unlike last season where the entire roster was crap. The hockey was boring and there was nothing to be positive about
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Post by pantherlee on Mar 15, 2024 21:56:44 GMT
Has being without Neill and Caruso been the difference? Well it has to be acontributing factor. Neill logs the most minutes, is the most creative and runs the powerplay. Neill and Caruso are also the top line and you’re then left with the likes of McGurty who just seems to get worse and worse. Tetlow, don’t need to elaborate on him and Kelsall dropped to D.
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Post by pantherlee on Mar 15, 2024 21:44:46 GMT
I’ve been coming since 2010 and he’s been the worst starter I’ve seen in that time. He’s not even an improvement on Dubeau Carr was pretty crap Yep. Never liked him either but he’s better than Rok
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Post by pantherlee on Mar 15, 2024 21:43:43 GMT
Embarrassing
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Post by pantherlee on Mar 15, 2024 21:42:58 GMT
For me, Rok has been the biggest disappointment. I was pretty chuffed we'd snagged him but it’s rare he wins a game for us. I’ve been coming since 2010 and he’s been the worst starter I’ve seen in that time. He’s not even an improvement on Dubeau
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Post by pantherlee on Mar 15, 2024 21:29:08 GMT
Some of the forwards in this team are very good and a good core can be made from them. However, the defence and goaltending needs scrapping and starting again. They’re just rubbish
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Post by pantherlee on Mar 15, 2024 20:47:24 GMT
How many times does this team concede seconds after scoring? It’s a recurring theme that happens way too often.
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Post by pantherlee on Mar 15, 2024 18:52:26 GMT
Looks like Kelsall moved to D. JP must’ve accepted rotating 5D didn’t work
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Post by pantherlee on Mar 13, 2024 15:13:10 GMT
And like we all know, little will change until NB goes. GM, GD, OP, all come and go but the consistent is NB And I have to be honest when he said it it made perfect financial sense to me. And, on the flip side, when we were in contention we have brought in big players (Ling) and carried spares. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see the team bought. Especially by the type of organisation Giants have but within the limits of his business view, not bringing in lots of extra players this year makes sense. Not least because I can't see anyone wanting to cut a player that was here that day in October That last point is another reason why there is big asterisk that belongs should be applied to this season. I’m under no illusion that this has been a bad season but things would have been so much different had the tragedy never happened and why I’d take this team over last years bunch all day long. Firstly just think about the impact alone AJ would’ve had for the whole season. Roy and Nieminen currently sit 12th and 17th in scoring respectively this season having sharing the top line with Farley, Luciani, Neilson and Henbrant over the course of the season. Had we had AJ on that line for the full season then I’m confident that that would’ve been the most deadly line in the league and all 3 would be in the top 10 league scorers. Add to that the emotional trauma that caused and was obvious to see and had a profound affect on performances and confidence for the next couple of months. The knock on effect of that also was as you say that all players that decided to stay made themselves undroppable for the loyalty they showed in difficult circumstances which I entirely agree with. It would be in very bad taste to release any of them but that may consequently contribute to our downfall. Had all been normal would the likes of Anderson and Welsh still be here and not been upgraded? All those things taken into the equation I believe we’d have ended up around 4th as it’s not that big a points swing over that time had the AJ tragedy never happened and things would’ve been vastly different
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Post by pantherlee on Mar 13, 2024 14:49:07 GMT
How many spare imports do you want the club to have? With the condensed schedule they faced,my opinion is they should have gone for three spare import skaters. Especially when taking into account they had lost both Tetlow and Betteridge for months. You can’t leave yourself short then complain about injuries or tiredness. I haven’t listened to any interviews or anything so I’ll have to be corrected but who’s complaining about tiredness? Has this come out of the club?
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Post by pantherlee on Mar 13, 2024 14:24:53 GMT
And what about Hazeldine, Luciani and Pare? Luciani replaced Farley though so he’s no spare. One spare import in Pare is not enough to justify the excuse that they’re tired. Every team is likely to suffer injuries and more so if you’ve got a condensed schedule. They should have brought in more or used IR but they never use IR for some reason. So Hazeldine and Pare are spares then. Do you really need any more than that. One point I will agree with though is not making use of IR. Difficult to do with Tetlow or Betteridge being Brits but as soon as it was clear that Welsh was long term an IR replacement should have been brought in
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Post by pantherlee on Mar 13, 2024 13:32:25 GMT
Time to lock this thread, I think as its been hijacked by those who post nothing when the team have been playing well but the minute reports (as opposed to seeing a game) of them playing badly (and they did) they are reaching for the keyboard and a moist towelette for the excitement of maligning the club............again. Nobody’s being abusive or anything,it’s just opinions about valid points. Why didn’t they look forward etc ? I’m no big advocate for Pacha but to fair after the incident he brought in Farley and Despres. Also brought in Hazeldine for Tetlow when he was injured and since brought in Luciani and Pare. After that you couldn’t possibly foresee any injuries down the line we’d get and if we’re full strength then we’re carrying a spare forward and spare defenceman.
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Post by pantherlee on Mar 13, 2024 12:46:14 GMT
Definitely and Roy, Nieminen and Neill should be top of that list as they will have no shortage of offers. Get them nailed down before anyone else comes knocking Isn't Neill at Uni? I don’t think so. I thought it was AJ on a uni deal
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Post by pantherlee on Mar 13, 2024 11:39:59 GMT
You’re right and that’s why I say to prioritise them as they would be worth a pay rise as they are the ones who have proven themselves. Top players deserve top money and we do have a couple. Henbrant for example didn’t have the CV that suggests he would be on big money so he would be worth more for next season (not top money though). Some have done enough to come back on the same terms (Lunsjo and Michaud I’d say) and it would be up to them to accept it or not and some shouldn’t be offered anything. Bottom line is players should be paid what they’re worth. Some players stock has risen. Some have stayed the same and some have fallen. I fully agree. There's been a whole load of decent players panthers have had down the years who ended up leaving because black and co wouldn't give them a extra bit to re sign. The big 3 teams retain a core because they are happy to reward their better players with incentives and small wage increases . Theres 2/3 players who panthers should be talking to now and get nailed down before the play off weekend never mind the summer! Do panthers even have a long term plan? Definitely and Roy, Nieminen and Neill should be top of that list as they will have no shortage of offers. Get them nailed down before anyone else comes knocking
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Post by pantherlee on Mar 13, 2024 10:37:48 GMT
That will be down to Pacha though surely? Black will set the budget and it will be up to Pacha how he spends it. For me priority should be given to securing Roy, Nieminen and Neill (possibly Lunsjo and Henbrant too) as they are the proven players for this club in this league and you know exactly what you’re getting. Exactly but if some players want a rise other areas of the roster will get paid less than this year as black won't increase the budget so those half decent players won't get the wage they want . Happens every year .. Pacha has to go for me.. hes turned panthers into a non contending team for the first time in 20+ years! You’re right and that’s why I say to prioritise them as they would be worth a pay rise as they are the ones who have proven themselves. Top players deserve top money and we do have a couple. Henbrant for example didn’t have the CV that suggests he would be on big money so he would be worth more for next season (not top money though). Some have done enough to come back on the same terms (Lunsjo and Michaud I’d say) and it would be up to them to accept it or not and some shouldn’t be offered anything. Bottom line is players should be paid what they’re worth. Some players stock has risen. Some have stayed the same and some have fallen.
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Post by pantherlee on Mar 13, 2024 9:59:32 GMT
I’m sorry I really just don’t buy this. If the players were that deeply scarred by what happened then they should have already left like Bjorkung chose to do. Yes those couple of months after when it was still raw must have been very difficult and it visibly was it was plain for all to see. But overall the group seems to have recovered and gained some confidence and enjoyment again and the AJ tragedy just can’t be dragged up to be used as an excuse now whenever we play badly or to decide what their futures will be. It happened and nothing will change that whether players decide to stay or go and I think the players are smart enough to know that and shouldn’t have any bearing on future decisions Me too. If and I expect most of the roster to leave it will be because they want to go elsewhere or black won't pay any increase to the better performing players. This summer will be groundhog day . Yet again and folk wonder why the team is never successful That will be down to Pacha though surely? Black will set the budget and it will be up to Pacha how he spends it. For me priority should be given to securing Roy, Nieminen and Neill (possibly Lunsjo and Henbrant too) as they are the proven players for this club in this league and you know exactly what you’re getting.
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