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Post by buster on Sept 22, 2008 14:11:57 GMT
It's Corey's Ice and Hewitt sould respect that and vice versa at Sheff Arena. i disagree whole heartedly. who gives a turd about superstitions? i know i dont. if anything, if i were the opposition, i think it would be my primary concren to everything in my power to put the opposition off their game. who cares if its home ice? hewitt had just as much right to be there as nielson, just because this is our arena doesnt mean our team should take precedence over everything. yes i admit that hewitt not getting off the ice after the announcements is a bit naughty, but to say he was downright disrespectful to corey is silly. this isnt me fishing (as no dount im sure i'll be accused of) as myself and megaphone mark had this conversation last night in the car on the way up to training. *edit* this is addressing those who think that the 'incident' is about superstitions.
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Post by pantherdman on Sept 22, 2008 14:43:52 GMT
Put it this way, when i go to my parents house, i don't sit in my dad's chair.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2008 14:44:24 GMT
Put it this way, when i go to my parents house, i don't sit in my dad's chair. because you daren t ;D
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Post by pantherdman on Sept 22, 2008 14:48:14 GMT
because i don't want to be cuffed round the ears and told to move, a la Corey. LOL
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Post by darrellpanther on Sept 22, 2008 14:58:44 GMT
Corey was spot on to do what he did, Hewitt and Thomas do it every game
Hewitt never hit the puck at Corey FACT, he clearly aimed it at the net, just Corey got in the way to prove a point
Corey did it to prove a point, all psychological, just to prove you cant take the pi*s on our ice... Nothing more nothing less
about time we had a whole hearted coach, fantastic stuff by Corey in my opinion, any way in which we can gain the upper hand is OK in my book, and guess what, we won
same as what happended to finners, what a quiet game he had after the fight, perfect stuff by Bruce also
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2008 15:33:09 GMT
Corey was spot on to do what he did, Hewitt and Thomas do it every game Hewitt never hit the puck at Corey FACT, he clearly aimed it at the net, just Corey got in the way to prove a point Corey did it to prove a point, all psychological, just to prove you cant take the pi*s on our ice... Nothing more nothing less about time we had a whole hearted coach, fantastic stuff by Corey in my opinion, any way in which we can gain the upper hand is OK in my book, and guess what, we won same as what happended to finners, what a quiet game he had after the fight, perfect stuff by Bruce also spot on Darrell, this is just what the game needed . Corey has a serious dislike for sheffield, coach or not. He will not have any team coming into his arena taking the wee wee like what hewitt tried. Then the scrap was perfectly timed, big kudos to Bruceee, this set the tone for what was to come. How quiet was finnerty after that !! No mouthing off or just skating around like a arse. Its a shame Ellis couldn t have deployed these tactics last year else im sure we would have beaten them a few more times
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Post by asbo26 on Sept 22, 2008 16:16:33 GMT
I wouldnt say finnerty was quiet, perhaps verbally but well deserved his MOM
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Post by Peacock on Sept 22, 2008 16:40:56 GMT
Corey stopped the puck with his stick... ergo it hit his stick!
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Post by Lord of the Rinks on Sept 22, 2008 17:11:23 GMT
Corey stopped the puck with his stick... ergo it hit his stick! Beg to differ, Corey moved his stick to stop the puck. Funny if Hewitt hit the puck to hit Corey's stick, it was a good shot, but he could not hit the empty net. ;D Pardon my ignorance, but what is ergo?
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Post by Peacock on Sept 22, 2008 17:21:31 GMT
Beg to differ, Corey moved his stick to stop the puck. Funny if Hewitt hit the puck to hit Corey's stick, it was a good shot, but he could not hit the empty net. ;D Pardon my ignorance, but what is ergo? Sorry, too much 'work' speak...means therefore. My point was that whether Corey moved his stick or not, the puck was hit close enough to Corey to hit the stick.
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Post by Lord of the Rinks on Sept 22, 2008 17:24:44 GMT
Beg to differ, Corey moved his stick to stop the puck. Funny if Hewitt hit the puck to hit Corey's stick, it was a good shot, but he could not hit the empty net. ;D Pardon my ignorance, but what is ergo? Sorry, too much 'work' speak...means therefore. My point was that whether Corey moved his stick or not, the puck was hit close enough to Corey to hit the stick. Cheers for that. ergo. If it was close enough for Corey to hit, then did Hewitt aim it at him. ![:o](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/shocked.png)
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Post by Peacock on Sept 22, 2008 17:29:10 GMT
I don't know is the honest answer.
I'm sure they both had thir reasons for their actions, and I just happen to think Hewitt was in the wrong on this occasion.
If it had been vice versa in Sheffield, then I'd be saying Corey was wrong.
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Post by john123 on Sept 22, 2008 18:45:57 GMT
From what I saw of the incident, the only one in the wrong was Neilson for his mardy reaction. It was just silly one-up-manship until Corey skated across he blue line and tried to punch Hewitt. Hewitt was well within his rights to stop on the ice (as he does every single game) and fire pucks into the empty net (or at least try to! ;D). There is no rule saying the home team has to be the last off the ice after warm up. As for Hewitt showing a lack of respect ( : ![:))](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/cheesy.png) by carrying out an action he always does, I guess that makes it one all then. After the incident when Nielson turned the goals round in the HoS to "interrupt" Hewitt's little routine, although Hewitt acted like the bigger man an just skated off laughing. Much a do about nothing if you ask me.
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Post by john123 on Sept 22, 2008 18:51:55 GMT
Then the scrap was perfectly timed, big kudos to Bruceee, this set the tone for what was to come. How quiet was finnerty after that !! No mouthing off or just skating around like a arse. Aye, really quiet Pidge, apart from scoring two and making a third. Oh and getting a man of the match. I hope he is that quiet for the rest of the season! The fight was the worst thing Richardson could have done to Finnerty. Not only did Richardson lose the fight, it also spurred Finnerty to have his best game of the season so far. What happened to that beating Richardson was going to hand out to Finner ey Pidge? Or was it a case of Richardson head butting Finners hands into submission? ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png)
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Post by Peacock on Sept 22, 2008 19:12:09 GMT
As for Hewitt showing a lack of respect ( : ![:))](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/cheesy.png) by carrying out an action he always does, I guess that makes it one all then. After the incident when Nielson turned the goals round in the HoS to "interrupt" Hewitt's little routine, although Hewitt acted like the bigger man an just skated off laughing. Unyet Glynn wrote Any chance you can get your stories straight guys.
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Post by john123 on Sept 22, 2008 19:21:32 GMT
As for Hewitt showing a lack of respect ( : ![:))](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/cheesy.png) by carrying out an action he always does, I guess that makes it one all then. After the incident when Nielson turned the goals round in the HoS to "interrupt" Hewitt's little routine, although Hewitt acted like the bigger man an just skated off laughing. Unyet Glynn wrote Any chance you can get your stories straight guys. My story is perfectly straight. Nielson turned the away goal around at the HoS in the playoff quarter final the year you won it. He did this to "interrupt" Hewitt's routine. I'm not talking about last season. ![::)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/eyesroll.png)
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Post by texpef on Sept 22, 2008 19:30:57 GMT
It worked then didnt it John ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/grin.png) ....
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Post by john123 on Sept 22, 2008 19:33:06 GMT
It worked then didnt it John ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/grin.png) .... Never said it didn't Tex, although Mr Nielson (as a player coach now) could have looked very silly on Saturday. It's something I would never reccomend to any of my players!
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Post by texpef on Sept 22, 2008 19:38:52 GMT
No sure it isnt, getting oneupmanship and a psychological advantage on HOME ICE. If Corey had just let it ride it sends a signal that any and all behaviour is accepted, he did not accept this and sent his own signal back saying dont take the mick on our ice... seems a perfectly acceptable thing to do in my book, lets see what happens in the next game eh, you think that matsos wont try to get a psychological advantage at the HOS?
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Post by john123 on Sept 22, 2008 19:51:44 GMT
No sure it isnt, getting oneupmanship and a psychological advantage on HOME ICE. If Corey had just let it ride it sends a signal that any and all behaviour is accepted, he did not accept this and sent his own signal back saying dont take the mick on our ice... seems a perfectly acceptable thing to do in my book, lets see what happens in the next game eh, you think that matsos wont try to get a psychological advantage at the HOS? Hewitt wasn't doing anything out of the ordinary though was he? He was following his pre-game routine, that he does before EVERY game, home or away. There was no hint of "any and all behavior". It's not like he was firing pucks at players during the warm up is it? ![:P](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/tongue.png) Like I said, it could have backfired big style and is not the way I would be wanting one of my senior players to be acting, let alone the coach. A better way to "send out a message" would to have been to drill him through the boards in his first shift, then tell him exactly why. What Nielson did, should have been used by Hewitt to motivate himself and his team mates. Or, just shown Nielson up for the petty, insolent and childish player that he is. I know I would have used it that way. There are better ways to try and get a psychological edge, if anything, it should have made Hewitt feel 10 feet tall! Knowing that he bothers and gets under Nielson's nose so much.
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Post by Mark on Sept 22, 2008 21:51:15 GMT
Upset quite a few Steelers though. Result.
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Post by Hadden11 on Sept 22, 2008 21:52:44 GMT
No bitterness then John. Analysing a bit of a scuffle into possible psychological gains lol. It obviously worked in our favour, well done Corey.
Those grapes arent getting any less sour are they!
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Post by shirtless on Sept 22, 2008 22:01:02 GMT
I can back that up happened right in front of me
No heitt did not have space to wind up and slap it at Mr. Nielson but he did wrist one at his knee. Me finks if he hed a wound up he'd have bin decked before the shot left his stick blade in a lot more humiliating fashion than what was really a push from Mr. Nielson.
Hewitt was working his ticket and should not try and treat the nic like his home cos it aint.
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Post by gsheriston on Sept 22, 2008 22:36:57 GMT
Hewitt wasn't doing anything out of the ordinary though was he? He was following his pre-game routine, that he does before EVERY game, home or away. As was Neilson... Though I'd hope that on away ice Corey would show a little more in the way of manners by clearing the ice more promptly and letting the home team finish the warm-up however they liked. There may not be written rules about who's last on the ice but I still think the visiting team shouldn't try and disrupt the home team. Save that for the game! I'll bet there aren't many people missing the warm-up next time... I just wonder where it'll go next. I don't know who started with turning the net around, but I've seen it done at the NIC - hadn't heard until this thread that it'd happened at Sheffield too. I'm kinda disappointed by that, because I thought it was petty when it happened at the NIC. Still think Corey should've put the puck in off the boards though ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png)
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Post by Rob #12 on Sept 22, 2008 23:05:29 GMT
Hewitt was well within his rights to stop on the ice (as he does every single game) and fire pucks into the empty net (or at least try to! ;D). Actually no he didn't. Warm up ended nearly 5 mins before Corey asked him to leave the ice.
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