KIGOIUK
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Post by KIGOIUK on Jun 23, 2007 14:12:29 GMT
The steelers are looking at an ex Panther over his peak , a winger , sounds like Jason Clarke to me .
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Post by NickThePanther44 on Jun 23, 2007 14:48:06 GMT
would love him back, would be a great fit to the team imo
can play, proved that by getting good points in the ISL and as long as hes kept on a tight leash (Ellis is capable) then he wont be a problem and will give alot of toughness when needed and not a liability.
Nick
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Post by sawchuk on Jun 23, 2007 15:06:40 GMT
Hahahahahahahaha! I wonder if all those people who sucked up to Jason Clarke in the Cricks will follow him up the M1
;D
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john123
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Post by john123 on Jun 23, 2007 19:27:43 GMT
Will post what I put on Steeltalk If it is to be Clarke, I'm not really sure how I would feel about it to be honest. They guy obviously has a bit of skill, 23 points from 32 games in the Super League isn't bad at all, especially for a supposed "goon". He has also had 20+ goal seasons in the ECHL and CHL. For some reason, he always felt like he would score against us. However, as Pidge says (on Steeltalk), he is a mood player, and if he is in the wrong mood, he can be a liability and I'm not sure a rookie coach like Matsos will be able to control him. Hell, I think Blaisdell would have struggled! ;D He also seems to have banged the weight on and is 34 now, so isn't going to have improved much. Got a great shot on him though, from what I can remember, and he will certainly be entertaining. Obviously, I would prefer Bennefield, but I would certainly take Clarke over Cornish.
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Post by barnsleyfan on Jun 23, 2007 20:05:24 GMT
The retirement home is further down the M1... Hmm I'm with John on this one. I'm not so sure I would want to go with Clarke. From what I remember of him, he was a pillock with a good shot. Now, as there are 4 (I think) players just over 30 in our squad, I'd prefer to keep with the younger players than go for someone nearing the end of their career. A one season wonder before hanging up the skates wouldn't be my cup of tea. Bennefield would fit that perfectly at 27/ 28. I'm sure if Clarke did come he would do a good job. 10 goals on the third line, a decent scrapper and a deterrant to other teams = ticks all the boxes required. An ISL standard player on the third line would also be a bonus. If Bennefield is off to Manchester or the AHL, I'd take Clarke over Cornish in a heartbeat!
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Post by messier1851 on Jun 23, 2007 20:55:44 GMT
I think his day has probably past. Didn't he almost sign for Sheffield two years ago? I seem to remember a photo of him drifting round from when he was with Thetford and he looked liked he'd piled on a few pounds as well.
He was good on his day and scored his share of goals but he was also something of a liability with his Payette-like ability to completely lose his rag. More frustratingly he seemed to be an intelligent player some of the time, I remember his turning turtle against Paul Kruse after goading him into a fight. Then he showed his other side a few games later by chasing Ian McIntyre (I think) around the rink being pursued by the stripeys.
A decent fighter but not great, limited by his reach and probably not as tough as the Shmyrs and Clouthiers, but he was as game as they come. Certainly would be entertaining, if not a little frustrating.
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Post by NickThePanther44 on Jun 25, 2007 9:07:04 GMT
Clarke is definately as tough as Shmyr and Clouthier, hes fought and beat some very tough guys
Nick
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Rich
Paul Adey
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Post by Rich on Jun 25, 2007 9:49:25 GMT
Lol I really cant see there being anything in this so wont comment on the likelyhood but I would say sheffield would be so much better with Cornish. Corny wants to learn, wants to help his team, work hard and just be there for his team mates. Clarke was an ego, is older now and has anyone seen him recently....Hes huge! Hes built for the LNAH and would be an awful signing for sheffield. Compare that to a fit, young, eager team player like Cornish!
Its ok saying he got points in the ISL but that was a very different person. Hes a slow D man in the LNAH now not a high scoring ISL winger!
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Post by NickThePanther44 on Jun 25, 2007 11:56:00 GMT
but fitness can usually always be regained to a point, i havnt actually seen anything of him for a while but Cornish can barely skate, if he is as bad as you say then Rich i cant see him coming back to the Elite but potentially i think he could be useful
Nick
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Rich
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Post by Rich on Jun 25, 2007 13:36:12 GMT
but fitness can usually always be regained to a point, i havnt actually seen anything of him for a while but Cornish can barely skate, if he is as bad as you say then Rich i cant see him coming back to the Elite but potentially i think he could be useful Nick Lol no mate you dont understand, hes built for the LNAH and has found his level there, id be gobsmacked if steelers signed him.Plus I think an LNAH team has still got his rights. Cornish can skate fine, hes not been given a fair crack tho. At London when he played hockey he played ok, he was used on the PP and played an important part. Im not saying hes a great player but id defo take him over Clarke
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Mythosman
Matt Myers
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Post by Mythosman on Jun 25, 2007 16:15:19 GMT
If Clarke did sign for Steelers, can anybody get hold of a supply of those blow-up Mr Blobby dolls? Noel Edmonds must have a warehouse full somewhere! Deal or No Deal?? A quick paint job of a Steelers shirt with a #49 on the back, and this time next year Rodney, we'll be millionaires!! ;D
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swift
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Post by swift on Jun 26, 2007 13:30:15 GMT
Clarke is definately as tough as Shmyr and Clouthier, hes fought and beat some very tough guys Nick You're having a laugh, he was a pantomime joke last time he was here Shmyr and Cloots would have a birthday with him, thats if he wasn't doing an impression of a turtle.
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Post by texpef on Jun 26, 2007 14:50:34 GMT
well.....
oh please sheffield sign clark you know you want too...
And rich as for cornish dont make me laugh...
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Post by NickThePanther44 on Jun 26, 2007 18:23:53 GMT
no im not having a laugh, reply once youv seen Clarke's fightcard and seen who hes beaten
i do understand Rich i know hes fitted in well in that league but if hes motivated enough and fancies a clean break then he could get back into shape and make a go of it over here, lets face it noone would expect miracles of him, he'd be Shef's enforcer who would be expected to get odd points and i think he could manage that.
as far as Cornish goes hes one of the worst players in the league, hes here for one reason only, to enforce, hes been dropped four times in two seasons and with that record he isnt going to be feared by any of the top fighters, so in my eyes whats the point.
Nick
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swift
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Post by swift on Jun 26, 2007 19:52:16 GMT
Don't need to see his fightcard , I saw him perform last time here`and he was pathetic. As for Cornish , there were for worse player than him in the league last year and if it came down to JC or Cornish , well it would be Cornish every time.
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Post by barnsleyfan on Jun 26, 2007 20:17:29 GMT
Don't need to see his fightcard , I saw him perform last time here`and he was pathetic. As for Cornish , there were for worse player than him in the league last year and if it came down to JC or Cornish , well it would be Cornish every time. To be honest the more I think about it, the happier I get thinking of Cornish in this team. And I never thought I'd say that! With 2 top lines going forward and scoring plenty of points, it's not like we desperately NEED a good player to fill in on the wing on the British line. If the enforcer was there to play on the first or second line, then I'd be worried. But if he's on the third I don't see the problem. It's only like having a developing British player trying to hold his own on the third line, because there aren't going to be 3 big British players scoring bags of points on that line. Most Brits on a third line won't get more than 15- 20 points a year and I'm sure with a bit of direction, Cornish can get 15 points AND enforce better than Bennefield and Clarke would do. IMO he is the best out and out enforcer of the 3 of them. With Phillips and A.Tait capable of scoring points similar to Imports, it isn't like the enforcer needs to be of the Clouthier/ Voth points production. Matsos is building his team around sharp skating, so hopefully he can teach the donkey how to skate a LITTLE better! ;D
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Post by texpef on Jun 26, 2007 20:56:39 GMT
Tait i can accept but if you seriously expect philips to score those kind of points well, delusional i guess... 15 goals and 18 assists from a top line player is not setting the world alight. If my team was looking to sign either of clark or cornish then i would suspect they had spent too much on the rest of the team as neither are up to the mark on either enforcing or goalscoring or in cornish's case even skating... mmmmm, sharp skating now were did we last hear comments like that!!!!....
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Post by NickThePanther44 on Jun 26, 2007 21:15:16 GMT
yeah Clarke was terrible here, beat Rushton and Schulte and yes he turtled from Kruse but its pretty obvious that was to wind him up seems he then fought him at the end of the season.
Clarke got 23 points in the ISL and never suffered a heavy fighting defeat, McIntyre maybe slightly edged him but thats the only time he came out worse in a proper fight.
Cornish has got a high of 10 points in his first season in this league, lower standard than ISL. hes won alot of fights, which imo most have been against much less tougher guys than were around in the ISL but are still wins, BUT has been put on his backside four times by Ski Gomez x2 and Shmyr.
so lets say Clarke gets himself in shape (doubt Steelers would touch him if not) you would take a less tough worse player in Cornish.
why was Clarke pathetic?
Nick
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Post by NotMartinTuma on Jun 27, 2007 2:04:43 GMT
Smurf has seen his best days and he has peaked. I'm sure he will do faily well for Sheff but he is the twilight of his career. Clarke has been the most impresive up and coming Brit in recent years and will continue to improve. He was signed from Peterborough as a bit of a goonish type. The first time I ever saw him was for the Newcastle jesters against the Steelers in the 99 B&H cup fianl and he was horrible, could hardly skate pushing his weight around. Just like Cornish today. Bit of a spit-polish and Cornish will do just fine. Next season will tell the tale. All else is just buying time..............................................
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Post by NickThePanther44 on Jun 27, 2007 9:06:47 GMT
Jason Clarke mate not David
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Rich
Paul Adey
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Post by Rich on Jun 27, 2007 11:53:46 GMT
LMAO!
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Post by jd on Jun 27, 2007 12:41:32 GMT
If JC was a brit, sign him up!
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Post by barnsleyfan on Jun 27, 2007 13:26:26 GMT
Tait i can accept but if you seriously expect philips to score those kind of points well, delusional i guess... 15 goals and 18 assists from a top line player is not setting the world alight. Well let's just hope that doesn't come back to bite you tex. I'm expecting Phillips to do nearly as well as Tait this year. Phillips had a lot of grief last year playing with about 6 different line mates, which of course does break the rhythm. He went through a really bad spell after Christmas when things were going bad through the chopping and changing of the whole squad. But after he was voted player of the tourny and was the top points scorer at the World Champs....he isn't gonna be left behind for too much longer in the scoring stats IMO. Finnerty and Sheppard are the perfect line mates for him. We saw how much his stats improved when Finnerty came in and replaced that pillock Maltby. If he stays fit and that line stays together then I'm expecting a break out season points wise. To be honest, I couldn't care less if he only gets 40 points a season. His game has far more to it. The space and time he creates for his line mates due to his speed is worthy of an assist every time. He is by far the best British skater in the league, and that's not just the opinion of Sheffield fans. He is the best 2-way player we have on our team and he's always on the first line penalty kill! Phillips or no Phillips? I know which one I'd take EVERY time!
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swift
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Post by swift on Jun 27, 2007 15:20:35 GMT
yeah Clarke was terrible here, beat Rushton and Schulte and yes he turtled from Kruse but its pretty obvious that was to wind him up seems he then fought him at the end of the season. Clarke got 23 points in the ISL and never suffered a heavy fighting defeat, McIntyre maybe slightly edged him but thats the only time he came out worse in a proper fight. Cornish has got a high of 10 points in his first season in this league, lower standard than ISL. hes won alot of fights, which imo most have been against much less tougher guys than were around in the ISL but are still wins, BUT has been put on his backside four times by Ski Gomez x2 and Shmyr. so lets say Clarke gets himself in shape (doubt Steelers would touch him if not) you would take a less tough worse player in Cornish. why was Clarke pathetic? Nick If you think Clarke is tougher than Cornish , sorry but your head is screwed on wrong .
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2007 17:37:29 GMT
yeah Clarke was terrible here, beat Rushton and Schulte and yes he turtled from Kruse but its pretty obvious that was to wind him up seems he then fought him at the end of the season. Clarke got 23 points in the ISL and never suffered a heavy fighting defeat, McIntyre maybe slightly edged him but thats the only time he came out worse in a proper fight. Cornish has got a high of 10 points in his first season in this league, lower standard than ISL. hes won alot of fights, which imo most have been against much less tougher guys than were around in the ISL but are still wins, BUT has been put on his backside four times by Ski Gomez x2 and Shmyr. so lets say Clarke gets himself in shape (doubt Steelers would touch him if not) you would take a less tough worse player in Cornish. why was Clarke pathetic? Nick If you think Clarke is tougher than Cornish , sorry but your head is screwed on wrong . Sorry but if you think Cornish is the better player, then you re seriously dillusional and have limited hockey knowledge
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