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Post by Jonno on May 10, 2007 16:33:02 GMT
what i dont understand is jonno the guy played well most of the year. The spin beforehand did him no favours as well and probably you expected along with others a superstar as he was billed to be. That was not his fault and lets be honest that was last year, so new season new beginning and far more knowledge of what is required i think that is a positive outlook on corey's signing. The guy has just signed again for this year give him a break, also what i have seen on and off the ice he has time for all the fans. As for PC well done mike ;D I didnt expect a superstar, just a competent defenceman. For 90% of our season I don't think he was this and that is where our opinions differ. I'm not doubting he's a nice bloke, I'm sure he is, but I'm not going to be happy about the signing of a player I don't think is good enough.
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Post by john on May 10, 2007 16:36:59 GMT
Corey if he played like he did most of the year then great every player has bad spells you cant really help them but then corey did us proud in the playoffs also he a awasome penalty taker.
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Post by LUFC on May 10, 2007 16:38:01 GMT
what i dont understand is jonno the guy played well most of the year. The spin beforehand did him no favours as well and probably you expected along with others a superstar as he was billed to be. That was not his fault and lets be honest that was last year, so new season new beginning and far more knowledge of what is required i think that is a positive outlook on corey's signing. The guy has just signed again for this year give him a break, also what i have seen on and off the ice he has time for all the fans. As for PC well done mike ;D I didnt expect a superstar, just a competent defenceman. For 90% of our season I don't think he was this and that is where our opinions differ. I'm not doubting he's a nice bloke, I'm sure he is, but I'm not going to be happy about the signing of a player I don't think is good enough. Dont know what you was watching then for most of that 90% of the season, seen as sometimes he was the difference, sure he missed afew pucks on the blue line and scuffed some shots and passes, but so did clarke alot. You only picked up on neilson cause everyone got on his back early, just some obviously like you didnt get off and rode him through that 10% you claim he was only good at and still clinging to his back now. jeeze we've just signed a great defender for another season take those knives out his back and back off would you?!?!
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Post by jimbo on May 10, 2007 16:41:47 GMT
all we need now is to sign #2 and #4
and that will be a good start and a solid defence
then to work on the forwards
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Post by pantherslass on May 10, 2007 16:47:32 GMT
Im happy with them but guttered about calle
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Post by dodit on May 10, 2007 17:02:41 GMT
I think they are top notch signings. (Well if neilson plays like he did in the playoffs it will be lol).
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Post by marshalfish on May 10, 2007 17:06:19 GMT
Very happy with both of these signings. Corey took a lot of stick, and some of it very unjustified, early on, but I think the way he came through it shows some of the measure of the man. Yes he made errors, but IMHO he seemed to become the new scapegoat after Lindsay was canned, and everyone focussed on him when others were making mistakes also. What I mean to say is, if a forward misses the puck, an attack breaks down, if a D man does the same, possible calamity will follow.
I think that if he would just stop the blind backhand passes, he will be a diamond this coming season, and the coaching reponsibilities will give him extra focus too.
On P.C., I missed his time here, but from what we've been hearing today on here, and his published stats, I am beginning to get more than a little excited.
In closing, all the best to Calle and his family, I hope we'll see him around the NIC occasionally
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Post by psylence on May 10, 2007 17:31:20 GMT
really pleased with these signings!
i don't know much about PC Drouin, but from what everyone is saying on here should be an interesting one to watch next year. man i am counting down to the new season!!! i can't wait!
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Post by stu on May 10, 2007 17:35:44 GMT
Can't wait to see PC play again for us, the guy is awesome! As for Neilson, play off Neilson was fine, league Neilson would need to be more consistent for me. Hopefully having a season under his belt will help. Sad for Calle, wonderful servant to the club!
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Post by Dan on May 10, 2007 19:29:17 GMT
Absolutely ecstatic about PC coming back, but disappointed about Neilson. Poor all season but had a pretty good play-offs and he gets a new contract... Ah well, Drouin is back Can't wait to see him score his first breakaway!
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Post by Dan on May 10, 2007 19:31:50 GMT
Yes he made mistakes but overall he was amazing ALL season! Amazing? My lord... To be honest Im at a loss to see how Corey has done enough to warrant a new contract offer. I appreciate that we all have different opinions but the statement that #76 was "amazing all last year" has to be the most laughable Ive seen in about 5 years reading the cage. He turned up for the play offs which isn't good enough. I want a player that is gong to play for the whole season, not just for 4 or 5 games at the end. In terms of his defensive abilities I'm struggling to think of many worse import D men to pull on a Panthers jersey in the last 10 years. His positional play is dreadful, he can't pass and for a man of his size his toughness is poor. Clearly his plus point is that he puts points on the board and yes, points win prizes. It would be interesting to see however to what extent this extra points production is cancelled out by calamitous defensive play. As for PC, what a player. If he can reproduce some of the form he had a few seasons ago then this is a great signing. Shame to see Calle leave, didn't really see that one coming. It doesn't really seem clear who's decision it was for him to go but at least it appears to be amicable. Good luck for the future Calle. I'll agree that Neilson was pretty bad, but he's not the worst we've had. Adolfson, Gillis and Sebastian take that mantle. His problem is that of concentration. The amount of times he's been skating casually around whilst a break is forming around him is galling. The main thing that bugs me about him is his passing. Most of the time he doesn't even look. That results in giving the puck away an unforgiveable amount of times.
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Post by barnsleyfan on May 10, 2007 19:35:13 GMT
Amazing that's right. Amazingly poor! ;D Shame he decided to turn up and earn his money in the post season!
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Jonno
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Post by Jonno on May 10, 2007 20:04:41 GMT
I didnt expect a superstar, just a competent defenceman. For 90% of our season I don't think he was this and that is where our opinions differ. I'm not doubting he's a nice bloke, I'm sure he is, but I'm not going to be happy about the signing of a player I don't think is good enough. Dont know what you was watching then for most of that 90% of the season, seen as sometimes he was the difference, sure he missed afew pucks on the blue line and scuffed some shots and passes, but so did clarke alot. You only picked up on neilson cause everyone got on his back early, just some obviously like you didnt get off and rode him through that 10% you claim he was only good at and still clinging to his back now. jeeze we've just signed a great defender for another season take those knives out his back and back off would you?!?! I wont back off, I'm entitled to my opinion just you are yours. Clearly we have different opinions about Neilson, that doesn't mean I'm not going to share mine, this is a forum! I didn't "pick up on Neilson" just because everyone else got on his back. I did so because I don't think he's a good defenceman.
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Post by dp on May 10, 2007 20:06:39 GMT
Don't think it's quite sunk in that we've re-signed Drouin - without doubt my favourite ever Panthers player!!
My only worries are, a. has he still got it? and b. he had a tendency to look totally disinterested in some games, and in other games was ABSOLUTELY SHOCKINGLY BAD, and seemed to have had 10 pints before the game!! Hopefully with him being assistant coach he'll know he has to set an example though.
Neilson I'm a bit concerned about - I was never one to think he was that bad, but it worries me that as a unit our defence was generally pretty weak last year. We've now re-signed 3 of the 4, with the one we haven't re-signed yet being by far the best of them, and possibly the best in the league. So basically, the best we're going to do now is last season's defence, which I'm not convinced can win a title. To be honest, I'd have preferred to have replaced Rees than Neilson though.
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Post by ally85 on May 10, 2007 20:08:54 GMT
Neilson isn't the first time we've seen a North American player suddenly 'show up' for the playoffs though is it? I guess the classic example would be Steve McKenna who didn't look like an NHL player for a long time and then suddenly stepped it up a notch when February turned to March.
I wonder if this is something to do with the different emphasis over here... in N.America the big thing is the playoffs: that's what you want to win above all and so that's when as a player you'd want to be at your peak and be willing to put in that extra effort. Over here, with 8 of 10 teams qualifying for the playoffs the regular season might seem a little pointless to those who don't understand that the really big trophy here is the regular season title. Perhaps returning for a second season Corey will grasp that.
With Corey and Meyers on the roster, I hope our final d-man is a more defensively minded player like Rees (except preferably bigger!) who can help to balance out those two... from the bits I saw last season it seemed at times like we were a bit unbalanced with 3 of 4 d-men who liked to get forward and only one more willing to stay at home.
And as for Drouin... ;D ;D ;D
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Post by NickThePanther44 on May 10, 2007 20:09:04 GMT
for gods sake yes the guy made a few more mistakes than most of the others but it seems quite convenient that everyone whos slagging the guy off is forgetting that he also scored a damn site more points than most players, add to that he was a big reason we won our only major trophy since ive been watching, about seven years.
but by all means keep moaning that hes so bad
dont think age will be too much of a factor for Drouin, hes been posting at least a point per game in his last three seasons, last season 37 in 26 i believe, in a much higher paid league.
Nick
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Post by KimThePanther on May 10, 2007 20:44:33 GMT
Rod Stevens is an example of a player who's seen better years and isn't quite the player he used to be but can still do a good job at Elite League level. Let's hope that's the case here.
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Post by Frodo on May 10, 2007 20:45:38 GMT
for gods sake yes the guy made a few more mistakes than most of the others but it seems quite convenient that everyone whos slagging the guy off is forgetting that he also scored a damn site more points than most players, add to that he was a big reason we won our only major trophy since ive been watching, about seven years. but by all means keep moaning that hes so bad dont think age will be too much of a factor for Drouin, hes been posting at least a point per game in his last three seasons, last season 37 in 26 i believe, in a much higher paid league. Nick thats was my initial worry, i looked at his stats as i didnt see him play in person and was suitably impressed. By all accounts he's a very skillful player and that doesnt generally tend to fade with age, only your speed. Combine that with how 'Zero' tollerance is meant to incourage skillful attacking play and i think he will put up some good numbers. As regards Corey, i think the main problem was his concentration and consistantcy. Ok you cant play to your best every game and yes he scored alot of points but he also cost quite a few. Maybe a second year in this league will be the making of him now he realises just important the league title is to a team.
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Post by SURF96 on May 10, 2007 20:51:06 GMT
Am I wrong or was it not Corey who scored more penalties in those closing games than McAslan and Gallant put together ??!! Without which, we wouldn't have been Play-Off champions!!
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Post by Frodo on May 10, 2007 20:59:22 GMT
Am I wrong or was it not Corey who scored more penalties in those closing games than McAslan and Gallant put together ??!! Without which, we wouldn't have been Play-Off champions!! i thought MacAslan got 2, Gallant got (the) 1 and Neilson got 2. but i may be wrong.
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Post by BIG-BAD-TONE on May 10, 2007 21:17:03 GMT
Absolutely ecstatic about PC coming back, but disappointed about Neilson. Poor all season but had a pretty good play-offs and he gets a new contract... Ah well, Drouin is back Can't wait to see him score his first breakaway! Could not agree more Now there's a first
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Post by Frodo on May 10, 2007 21:42:46 GMT
Absolutely ecstatic about PC coming back, but disappointed about Neilson. Poor all season but had a pretty good play-offs and he gets a new contract... Ah well, Drouin is back Can't wait to see him score his first breakaway! Could not agree more Now there's a first Wait a minute PC Drouin re-signs for the panthers and BIG-BAD-TONE agrees with Upshall - am i trippin'?
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Post by dirtyden on May 10, 2007 21:52:59 GMT
Last season is history, stop living in the past, lets see what Corey does this season, give the man a chance to play.
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Post by martinski83 on May 10, 2007 22:00:17 GMT
Woohooo Delighted to have PC Drouin back. I thought that was just the usual summer rumour doing the rounds but this year it actually happened. Anyone care to start the Lee Jinman or perhaps the Pavel Bure rumour?
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Post by Dan on May 10, 2007 22:30:24 GMT
Imagine Jinman and Drouin in the same side at this level?
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