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Post by Jono Bullard on Jul 19, 2023 15:17:37 GMT
To be honest, as long as they're all in for training camp, I don't care if they're all announced in April or August. I did quite enjoy the Panthers account using all the 'where are the signings' tweets they've received to announce a new one later That's just it! They are never all here for training camp! They were last season.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2023 15:30:10 GMT
That's just it! They are never all here for training camp! They were last season. Must have been the first time in 20 years lol
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Post by sevcik on Jul 19, 2023 15:30:42 GMT
And how many seasons have we had players missing from training camp? Far more than not.
Didn't Paredes say in one interview he wanted to get his players in the country by mid July? (Apologies if I've misremembered or Misinterpreted it)
Don't work permits take about 3 weeks to approve if all the info is correct and there's no backlog?
There is or was a fast track way of getting a work permit approved in a week or so but that costs more money...
If the regulations are the same for European players post brexit then there should be no problem getting them in to the country quickly
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Post by sevcik on Jul 19, 2023 15:33:20 GMT
To be fair i think pretty much every player has been in the country for training camp since the Post Neilson era when it seemed to be come when you feel like it....
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Post by float on Jul 19, 2023 17:23:12 GMT
Must have been the first time in 20 years lol I find it odd that people cry out for change, then when somethings already changed, they’re ironically the ones still stuck in the past with their whinging.
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Post by awooga on Jul 19, 2023 18:37:48 GMT
Panthers confirm Hugo Roy.
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Post by bigal00 on Jul 19, 2023 20:35:16 GMT
Not at all au fait with the figures on eliteprospects or the playing styles of our new signings but am I right in saying we don’t seems to have a bully type player? Appreciate the roster is still to be completed.
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Post by Joe on Jul 19, 2023 21:04:13 GMT
Not at all au fait with the figures on eliteprospects or the playing styles of our new signings but am I right in saying we don’t seems to have a bully type player? Appreciate the roster is still to be completed. Not yet and I think this league is at the point where it's really not a necessity, top two teams in the league last season didn't have one and we had Gagnon who I think finished the season with 2 fights. The fact Petgrave finished the season as the most penalized player just shows how that side of the game is disappearing from this league
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Post by bigal00 on Jul 20, 2023 8:17:53 GMT
Maybe not a bad thing that skill, solidity and speed is chosen over physicality. Maybe I need to change my mindset
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Post by bobness on Jul 20, 2023 8:36:20 GMT
Not at all au fait with the figures on eliteprospects or the playing styles of our new signings but am I right in saying we don’t seems to have a bully type player? Appreciate the roster is still to be completed. Not yet and I think this league is at the point where it's really not a necessity, top two teams in the league last season didn't have one and we had Gagnon who I think finished the season with 2 fights. The fact Petgrave finished the season as the most penalized player just shows how that side of the game is disappearing from this league It is, as you say, disappearing. in 54 league games last year, there were 6 fighting majors called. Anderson and Ricci had 2, Lagrone and Gagnon 1 each. All those fighting majors were called in games vs different teams. Belfast, Glasgow and Guildford missed out. 16 fighting majors all told (14 league, 2 Cup) in 21-22, 6 for Tousignant, 2 for Tetlow and Kelsall.
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Post by pantherlee on Jul 24, 2023 17:43:34 GMT
This might just be speculation on my part but the oldest new player to the league this season so far is Jamie Arniel for Cardiff at 33 years old and I’d say at least 90% of new signings across the league are in their 20’s.
Would it be feasible for whatever reason that there has been an agreement throughout the league as to the age profile of new players to the league?
One way or the other the average age looks significantly lower at a glance this season
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Post by Jono Bullard on Jul 24, 2023 18:06:53 GMT
This might just be speculation on my part but the oldest new player to the league this season so far is Jamie Arniel for Cardiff at 33 years old and I’d say at least 90% of new signings across the league are in their 20’s. Would it be feasible for whatever reason that there has been an agreement throughout the league as to the age profile of new players to the league? One way or the other the average age looks significantly lower at a glance this season I keep figures on various things as part of my commentary notes and average age across the league is one of them. Last few seasons are below (all players on the roster for each particular season are included): EIHL2018/19 - 28.2 years old 2019/20 - 28.2 years old 2021/22 - 27.8 years old 2022/23 - 28.3 years old Panthers2018/19 - 27.9 years old 2019/20 - 28.5 years old 2021/22 - 27.7 years old 2022/23 - 27.7 years old
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Post by Joe on Jul 24, 2023 18:11:10 GMT
This might just be speculation on my part but the oldest new player to the league this season so far is Jamie Arniel for Cardiff at 33 years old and I’d say at least 90% of new signings across the league are in their 20’s. Would it be feasible for whatever reason that there has been an agreement throughout the league as to the age profile of new players to the league? One way or the other the average age looks significantly lower at a glance this season Not an agreement, the league is just transitioning from a physical play style to speed and skill like the rest of the hockey world and generally it’s easier to find that in younger players
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Post by iginla on Jul 24, 2023 19:17:24 GMT
This might just be speculation on my part but the oldest new player to the league this season so far is Jamie Arniel for Cardiff at 33 years old and I’d say at least 90% of new signings across the league are in their 20’s. Would it be feasible for whatever reason that there has been an agreement throughout the league as to the age profile of new players to the league? One way or the other the average age looks significantly lower at a glance this season Not an agreement, the league is just transitioning from a physical play style to speed and skill like the rest of the hockey world and generally it’s easier to find that in younger players Easier and highly likely.... CHEAPER hence why the quality of hockey these days across the EIHL is pretty crap compared to what it used to be !
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Post by bobness on Jul 24, 2023 19:27:33 GMT
So, to sum up. We don’t like older players coming over here for an overpaid last hurrah and getting their mba and phoning it in. Neither do we like younger, faster, hungrier players as they’re cheap. Never mind the speed of play or quality to watch.
Wanted. Goldilocks players for Panthers. Must be young but experienced, expensive but cheap, skilful but uncompromising, and hard but not physical.
World’s full of players like that. 😇
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Post by allingtonskates on Jul 24, 2023 21:31:37 GMT
We need a mix of players for a well balanced team. I’m worried we are looking very one dimensional again like last season. Not really impressed with our offence at the moment and lacking physicality. Hope we sign Wideman and 2 more like him for a solid top line and add a physical forward and defence man. Doubt we will get a physical player to be honest though.
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Post by wgray on Jul 24, 2023 21:51:55 GMT
We need a mix of players for a well balanced team. I’m worried we are looking very one dimensional again like last season. Not really impressed with our offence at the moment and lacking physicality. Hope we sign Wideman and 2 more like him for a solid top line and add a physical forward and defence man. Doubt we will get a physical player to be honest though. I agree with you, I feel it’s key that you get players with different attributes. As much as I’d love to a sign a team that has a few players who are extremely aggressive and physical, those days are probably gone as no other teams seem to want to match that and it will probably end up in disaster with DOPS. You do still need players that are hard nosed, get stuck in and play with some aggression though, I’m thinking the likes of Mark Cooper, Ben Lake, Sam Ruopp that played for Belfast, even Marklund from Guildford played with drive and was direct and powerful when carrying the puck, he wasn’t scared to take it to the net. I wouldn’t be disappointed if we added Marklund for that different dimension We’ve got to have balance in the team and have some different options.
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Post by allingtonskates on Jul 25, 2023 3:15:32 GMT
We need a mix of players for a well balanced team. I’m worried we are looking very one dimensional again like last season. Not really impressed with our offence at the moment and lacking physicality. Hope we sign Wideman and 2 more like him for a solid top line and add a physical forward and defence man. Doubt we will get a physical player to be honest though. I agree with you, I feel it’s key that you get players with different attributes. As much as I’d love to a sign a team that has a few players who are extremely aggressive and physical, those days are probably gone as no other teams seem to want to match that and it will probably end up in disaster with DOPS. You do still need players that are hard nosed, get stuck in and play with some aggression though, I’m thinking the likes of Mark Cooper, Ben Lake, Sam Ruopp that played for Belfast, even Marklund from Guildford played with drive and was direct and powerful when carrying the puck, he wasn’t scared to take it to the net. I wouldn’t be disappointed if we added Marklund for that different dimension We’ve got to have balance in the team and have some different options. when I say physical I’m not asking for us to sign Alex penner. If we need a tough guy to stick up for the team we should be looking for someone like Leigh salters. What I had in mind when I posted that though was someone in the mold of Jeff Brown. A leader who isn’t afraid to fight and plays a gritty physical game. Players like that absolutely still have a place in hockey and probably always will do in my opinion.
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Post by bobness on Jul 25, 2023 8:42:56 GMT
Indeed. Loose cannons who can barely play are no use any more, you need a player who can contribute and will skate through a wall every now and then. Jeff Brown was exactly that kind of player. Loved the way he played.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2023 9:38:44 GMT
I've not seen any Leigh salters type players in recent years never mind Jeff brown ones. Don't know whether teams in this league just ain't signing them or what. The closest we get is biggest d men who can look after themselves but they seem to be dwindling too.
I've always said this league needs the entertainers to sustain because the skill on show isn't sufficient I'm afraid.
The top leagues have the players on show to showcase world class skills so not javi the entertainers doesn't matter.
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Post by wannabe2 on Jul 25, 2023 10:04:02 GMT
Exactly, this sport in the UK has to be big time entertaining as that’s a huge part in going, skill and speed are huge but this sport needs something else to other sports to attract the punters. Clan seem to be going down a pretty good road, tough cookies who can also play should be the order of the day.
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Jul 25, 2023 10:11:06 GMT
Exactly, this sport in the UK has to be big time entertaining as that’s a huge part in going, skill and speed are huge but this sport needs something else to other sports to attract the punters. Clan seem to be going down a pretty good road, tough cookies who can also play should be the order of the day. I'm looking forward to seeing the new Glasgow
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Post by EMB on Jul 25, 2023 13:06:42 GMT
Exactly, this sport in the UK has to be big time entertaining as that’s a huge part in going, skill and speed are huge but this sport needs something else to other sports to attract the punters. Clan seem to be going down a pretty good road, tough cookies who can also play should be the order of the day. I'm looking forward to seeing the new Glasgow Glasgow is going to be very interesting now they are out the clutches of NB, I see the other guy is still there tho' the one they hid out the limelight till all fuss died down over that signing last season.
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Post by bobness on Jul 25, 2023 14:21:09 GMT
I'm looking forward to seeing the new Glasgow Glasgow is going to be very interesting now they are out the clutches of NB, I see the other guy is still there tho' the one they hid out the limelight till all fuss died down over that signing last season. Was always going to be, I'd say. It's also easy for a new owner to flash the cash and sign an apparently big budget team. Let's see how deep his pockets are if and when the crowds he's put in his business plan aren't there.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2023 14:30:20 GMT
Yup they will be in their honeymoon period trying to impress etc and show they mean business. Happens all the time with new owners
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