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Post by ashfieldpanther on Aug 25, 2022 6:07:33 GMT
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Post by Bagheera on Aug 25, 2022 6:36:08 GMT
It is, and it stinks. Can only imagine what the confined locker room must smell like. I've seen a lot of negative comments on social media about this but there are a few key points. Firstly, it's the arena doing the instalation. Panthers are just addapting to it. Secondly, I think it's not a bad idea at all. It's a minimal ammount of seats so it's not taking a huge chunk of normal priced availability away from fans. Fair play if somebody is prepared to pat that bit extra for an improved experience. Season ticket holders there arn't being asked to pay any more. The only question comes next season. Will they then be given a choice to pay more to stay in those seats or relocate?
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Post by ashfieldpanther on Aug 25, 2022 6:43:49 GMT
How long before the Arena goes down the Dynamic pricing road for those games likely to sell out, eg Sheffield. Where the price automatically goes up if there is a surge in demand, so prices aren't fixed.
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Post by bobness on Aug 25, 2022 6:57:14 GMT
How long before the Arena goes down the Dynamic pricing road for those games likely to sell out, eg Sheffield. Where the price automatically goes up if there is a surge in demand, so prices aren't fixed. I can’t see that happening, surely? That would be very difficult to manage and justify. At £35 a throw it’ll be interesting to see how they sell. Arena seats, Panthers prices.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2022 7:13:21 GMT
The arena made the decision to install these seats and the arena has told the Panthers to charge a premium for them as well... Yet I'm still seeing folk criticise them 🙈
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Post by frenchy3 on Aug 25, 2022 7:46:28 GMT
I know it’s early days yet and there is no increase to season ticket price this season but with the current %26 discount it would cost £700 next year
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Post by frenchy3 on Aug 25, 2022 7:49:41 GMT
I know it’s early days yet and there is no increase to season ticket price this season but with the current %26 discount it would cost £700 next year
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Post by float on Aug 25, 2022 7:53:13 GMT
I agree, I don't understand the criticism of Panthers here at all. The seats are for VIP concert tickets. They're just not able to remove them for Panthers games so Panthers have to adapt. They're not going to charge the same and it has to be a "premium" price" If someone wants to pay it, great! If not, no problem.
My only hope is that renewing season ticket holders next season will get to stay at Gold prices through loyalty. But that's a bridge to cross next summer and doesn't need speculation now.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2022 8:53:34 GMT
I agree, I don't understand the criticism of Panthers here at all. The seats are for VIP concert tickets. They're just not able to remove them for Panthers games so Panthers have to adapt. They're not going to charge the same and it has to be a "premium" price" If someone wants to pay it, great! If not, no problem. My only hope is that renewing season ticket holders next season will get to stay at Gold prices through loyalty. But that's a bridge to cross next summer and doesn't need speculation now. Some fans have waited all summer frustrated unable to find fault with antth Panthers.... Finally this is their moment....
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Post by iginla on Aug 25, 2022 9:17:00 GMT
It’s fine as long as no existing ST holder in that location is asked to pay more or move next year. If they are that’s not on !
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2022 10:06:28 GMT
Knowing Pacha he will honour loyalty, any new fan wanting to purchase those seats should pay the extra
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Post by kievthegreat on Aug 25, 2022 10:32:01 GMT
Not sure why anyone would complain. If it's too expensive for those 99 seats (some of which used to be restricted view because of railings at the bottom of the stairs), there are 7,000+ other seats at more reasonable prices to pick from.
Having had a season ticket in that area before, once you get past the 'fragrance', the view is absolutely fantastic. Plus being able to hear the sounds of the bench, chirping, etc... I can see why they'd charge extra.
Will be interesting what they do long term about season ticket holders there. 100% they shouldn't turf them out at the earliest opportunity, but I think they will try and move them on to other seats or charge the new going rate eventually. Hopefully if they do decide to charge full price for a season ticket at some point, they let them get first pick of any seats in the Gold, Silver, Bronze blocks and reserve them the best ones as a reward for loyalty.
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Post by iginla on Aug 25, 2022 10:39:42 GMT
Not sure why anyone would complain. If it's too expensive for those 99 seats (some of which used to be restricted view because of railings at the bottom of the stairs), there are 7,000+ other seats at more reasonable prices to pick from. Having had a season ticket in that area before, once you get past the 'fragrance', the view is absolutely fantastic. Plus being able to hear the sounds of the bench, chirping, etc... I can see why they'd charge extra. Will be interesting what they do long term about season ticket holders there. 100% they shouldn't turf them out at the earliest opportunity, but I think they will try and move them on to other seats or charge the new going rate eventually. Hopefully if they do decide to charge full price for a season ticket at some point, they let them get first pick of any seats in the Gold, Silver, Bronze blocks and reserve them the best ones as a reward for loyalty. I don’t think there’s much doubt what will happen in the future and if it works the same will happen in block 5. They’ll test the water and if the fans just accept it then either it’ll cost more,ST fans will have to move or there will be a lump of empty seats in the prime location. Bit like the new jumbotron,are the fans still paying for that ?
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Post by float on Aug 25, 2022 10:59:53 GMT
Not sure why anyone would complain. If it's too expensive for those 99 seats (some of which used to be restricted view because of railings at the bottom of the stairs), there are 7,000+ other seats at more reasonable prices to pick from. Having had a season ticket in that area before, once you get past the 'fragrance', the view is absolutely fantastic. Plus being able to hear the sounds of the bench, chirping, etc... I can see why they'd charge extra. Will be interesting what they do long term about season ticket holders there. 100% they shouldn't turf them out at the earliest opportunity, but I think they will try and move them on to other seats or charge the new going rate eventually. Hopefully if they do decide to charge full price for a season ticket at some point, they let them get first pick of any seats in the Gold, Silver, Bronze blocks and reserve them the best ones as a reward for loyalty. I don’t think there’s much doubt what will happen in the future and if it works the same will happen in block 5. They’ll test the water and if the fans just accept it then either it’ll cost more,ST fans will have to move or there will be a lump of empty seats in the prime location. Bit like the new jumbotron,are the fans still paying for that ? They won't do it with Block 5, it's purely and simply for the Arenas concerts. If you go to buy concert tickets (for example Ne-Yo) you can go to Block 15 and the rows in question (D, E and F) are coloured in red because they are VIP and that's what people will be paying for. Block 5 has the big concrete gap where the announcers sit and where there is a bar for the floor seating so the view isn't as good for concerts. The arena won't add many more rows like this, if at all, it's just a way of charging a bit of a premium to increase the revenue.
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Post by ashfieldpanther on Aug 25, 2022 11:00:59 GMT
How long before the Arena goes down the Dynamic pricing road for those games likely to sell out, eg Sheffield. Where the price automatically goes up if there is a surge in demand, so prices aren't fixed. I can’t see that happening, surely? That would be very difficult to manage and justify. At £35 a throw it’ll be interesting to see how they sell. Arena seats, Panthers prices. It's very easy to manage once you've installed the software, which monitors interest and adjust the prices accordingly. Hence how people (like myself) who joined in the presale to buy Bruce Springsteen tickets, ostensibly on sale at £150-£180, suddenly found them being sold as 'Platinum' tickets at £300-£500. but it's managed by the big ticket selling agencies, instead of the local venue. Justifiable ? well yes for concerts where the organised tout buys a bunch of £200 tickets on line and immediately puts them on resale at £400. If TM or live Nation do it then it means the artiste gets a share of the higher revenue, not the tout. but no, i can't see it happening for Panthers tickets.
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Post by spik on Aug 25, 2022 11:05:38 GMT
I'd hope that the existing ST holders not be forced to move or take a hike in price. Rather raise the price bit by bit each season to the accepted norm for these. After all it is not those fans fault and they didn't see this coming. As has been said allow them to make a choice first for next season but meet them half way.
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Post by kievthegreat on Aug 25, 2022 11:41:17 GMT
I can’t see that happening, surely? That would be very difficult to manage and justify. At £35 a throw it’ll be interesting to see how they sell. Arena seats, Panthers prices. It's very easy to manage once you've installed the software, which monitors interest and adjust the prices accordingly. Hence how people (like myself) who joined in the presale to buy Bruce Springsteen tickets, ostensibly on sale at £150-£180, suddenly found them being sold as 'Platinum' tickets at £300-£500. but it's managed by the big ticket selling agencies, instead of the local venue. Justifiable ? well yes for concerts where the organised tout buys a bunch of £200 tickets on line and immediately puts them on resale at £400. If TM or live Nation do it then it means the artiste gets a share of the higher revenue, not the tout. but no, i can't see it happening for Panthers tickets. I don't think we'll see dynamic pricing like that, but if we do get crowds back up, I can maybe see graded pricing. I.e. Steelers and Blaze games are Grade A and cost a little bit more, perhaps midweek games against lower teams and up in a lower grade and are slightly cheaper. Plenty of football teams grade their games like this so they can maximise revenue on big games, and small games alike.
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Aug 25, 2022 13:54:39 GMT
One thing is certain and that's that the arena is going to be a LOT more expensive next year for anyone using the place including the Panthers
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Post by bobness on Aug 25, 2022 15:53:34 GMT
One thing is certain and that's that the arena is going to be a LOT more expensive next year for anyone using the place including the Panthers Presumably keeping the ice icy requires quite a lot of electricity...?
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Aug 25, 2022 18:02:11 GMT
One thing is certain and that's that the arena is going to be a LOT more expensive next year for anyone using the place including the Panthers Presumably keeping the ice icy requires quite a lot of electricity...? If the energy costs are going up for everyone's houses it just stands to reason that the arena uses more energy than a small town. It's going to get thumped
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Post by yeti on Aug 25, 2022 19:25:04 GMT
The arena has installed the seats for gigs. For most gigs now you can buy VIP tickets that either include a 3 course meal in the green room, a couple of drinks and sitting in these seats or a few drinks in the Directors Bar and sitting in these seats. All for a hefty extra fee on top of the normal ticket price. If people are prepared to pay the extra and it it helps to make the arena break even then I won't complain.
Hopefully they will look to treat existing season ticket holders correctly. If they do eventually ask them to move they will could offer them a discounted season ticket elsewhere as compensation to give up these seats.
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Post by bobness on Aug 26, 2022 9:23:07 GMT
If Panthers have chipped in with the costs, they will be looking to recoup that in increased revenue. The key will be pricing it right so that they are all full, but at the best price they can get to do that. Personally, I think £35 is a bit expensive for one game.
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Post by iginla on Aug 26, 2022 10:14:36 GMT
It’ll be interesting who gets block 15 for POFW. Bet they ain’t thought of that one ! 🤣 Lol
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Post by Jord v4 on Aug 26, 2022 10:30:17 GMT
It’ll be interesting who gets block 15 for POFW. Bet they ain’t thought of that one ! 🤣 Lol Sheffield...
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Post by bobness on Aug 26, 2022 11:18:38 GMT
It’ll be interesting who gets block 15 for POFW. Bet they ain’t thought of that one ! 🤣 Lol Suspect those seats will be reserved for the bigwigs and honoured guests. See if they like constant profanity and the smell of stale wet leather. And the near-constant threat of having your head taking off by a flying rubber disc.
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