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Post by cjones on Jan 27, 2019 12:33:28 GMT
It would be interesting to see the reaction if this was the other way around. No doubt a clamouring for Jansen to step up Yes if it was the other way round,you Devils fans would be saying it was a clean hit ! It’s as close to a borderline head hit/clean hit as you’re ever going to get,in my opinion it’s a clean hit though. You could give that video to 100 people and i reckon the outcome would be 50/50. Agree, many would. But having seen shoulder contact to chin I would hope I didn’t.
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Post by cjones on Jan 27, 2019 12:36:37 GMT
Your last point is what has infuriated me more than the hit itself. I liked Bordeleau, but I understood, to an extent, why we didn’t bring him back. But a 39 year old skill player shouldn’t be sorting these issues out. And it certainly didn’t help him in the scrap, which he lost resoundingly. Proud of him for going in for it, but a little ashamed of the other guys who didn’t even get involved despite being on the ice. That last point stood out to me also, along with wondering why no Devils player/s actually helped Mosey up and off the ice....only when the Panthers players did said thing did any show the slightest bit of interest.....strange. Must take a while to be accepted into the inner circle He’s well liked. I don’t think they realised how bad it was. Ulmer I don’t think has ever fought, even in school! For him to be that upset at seeing Mosey like that displays how well he’s liked.
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Post by cjones on Jan 27, 2019 12:41:45 GMT
I don’t think the hot was malicious, I don’t know the player. He saw an opposition player bearing down on goal and went for a mid ice body hit.
Unfortunately he turns his head away at the very last moment and clips Mosey’s chin. The rules state any hit to the head, whether intentional or not, is a bad hit.
Mosey is out of hospital and back home. Hope there’s no long term damage. We move on.
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Post by Jord v4 on Jan 27, 2019 12:49:46 GMT
You're new here, we can easily out do this if you hang around for a while. Lol . Actually been on here for years but couldn't remember my log in details Ah, fair enough then. Congrats on locating your info. But you should then already know that this place had a great ability for 'out posting' itself at any moment.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2019 13:13:17 GMT
The hit shouldn't be made? He was 3 foot away from Garnett in centre !! It was a potentially a goal scoring situation You can’t attack the head. He attacked the head. I can’t believe I’m having to explain this. You’d be spitting venom if it was the other way around. For your information I have no sympathy for any player who skates with their head down beit a player in the black and golf or another teams colours! So you're wrong.. again!
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Post by pantherlee on Jan 27, 2019 13:16:02 GMT
Your last point is what has infuriated me more than the hit itself. I liked Bordeleau, but I understood, to an extent, why we didn’t bring him back. But a 39 year old skill player shouldn’t be sorting these issues out. And it certainly didn’t help him in the scrap, which he lost resoundingly. Proud of him for going in for it, but a little ashamed of the other guys who didn’t even get involved despite being on the ice. That last point stood out to me also, along with wondering why no Devils player/s actually helped Mosey up and off the ice....only when the Panthers players did said thing did any show the slightest bit of interest.....strange. Must take a while to be accepted into the inner circle They Devils players were too busy robbing off at the refs. Bentivoglio in particular. I sit right behind the away bench and my god the Devils are a mardy bunch. Think they've become too used to winning that they've become sore losers when it happens and Lord is becoming as bad as Finnerty for his tantrums. It also showed after the final buzzer when Dixon snapped his stick and Reddick pushed the goal over. Total petulance.
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Post by kievthegreat on Jan 27, 2019 13:19:47 GMT
That last point stood out to me also, along with wondering why no Devils player/s actually helped Mosey up and off the ice....only when the Panthers players did said thing did any show the slightest bit of interest.....strange. Must take a while to be accepted into the inner circle They Devils players were too busy robbing off at the refs. Bentivoglio in particular. I sit right behind the away bench and my god the Devils are a mardy bunch. Think they've become too used to winning that they've become sore losers when it happens and Lord if becoming as bad as Finnerty for his tantrums. It also showed after the final buzzer when Dixon snapped his stick and Reddick pushed the goal over. Total petulance. Also I think it's Fournier refuses to shake Darnells hand at the end.
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Post by pantherlee on Jan 27, 2019 13:21:57 GMT
The hit shouldn't be made? He was 3 foot away from Garnett in centre !! It was a potentially a goal scoring situation You can’t attack the head. He attacked the head. I can’t believe I’m having to explain this. You’d be spitting venom if it was the other way around. Have you watched the replay? I'm in agreement that it was a good hit. Rissling has his arms down and never changes direction and the point of contact was the shoulder/chest area. Have you watched the slow-mo? To me it looks like Mosey looks up and tries to change direction to go around Rissling but ends up running straight into him. If he carried on driving to the net the contact would have been side on. Thats not a dig at Mosey just unfortunate
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Post by jk on Jan 27, 2019 13:31:41 GMT
Lol . Actually been on here for years but couldn't remember my log in details Ah, fair enough then. Congrats on locating your info. But you should then already know that this place had a great ability for 'out posting' itself at any moment. Not sure if that's sarcastic or not but 😊😊
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2019 13:33:49 GMT
You can’t attack the head. He attacked the head. I can’t believe I’m having to explain this. You’d be spitting venom if it was the other way around. Have you watched the replay? I'm in agreement that it was a good hit. Rissling has his arms down and never changes direction and the point of contact was the shoulder/chest area. Have you watched the slow-mo? To me it looks like Mosey looks up and tries to change direction to go around Rissling but ends up running straight into him. If he carried on driving to the net the contact would have been side on. Thats not a dig at Mosey just unfortunate Posts that make sense ain't allowed on here 😁
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2019 13:35:27 GMT
I'd be disgusted with the devils players reaction why did it take a player to come from the bench to react and not the 4 Muppets in red already on the ice ? And it was 2 Panthers players who helped Mosey off the ice .. 🙄
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Post by Jord v4 on Jan 27, 2019 13:40:01 GMT
Ah, fair enough then. Congrats on locating your info. But you should then already know that this place had a great ability for 'out posting' itself at any moment. Not sure if that's sarcastic or not but 😊😊 There's a fine line with sarcasm isn't there... You're all gold with me my friend. No harm.
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Post by jk on Jan 27, 2019 13:55:18 GMT
I'd be disgusted with the devils players reaction why did it take a player to come from the bench to react and not the 4 Muppets in red already on the ice ? And it was 2 Panthers players who helped Mosey off the ice .. 🙄 As a Devils fan, this is the one thing that annoyed me. Whether the hit was good or not , most of the players wouldn't have probably seen it, one of them should have gone straight over to 'have a word.
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Post by pantherlee on Jan 27, 2019 14:18:26 GMT
I'd be disgusted with the devils players reaction why did it take a player to come from the bench to react and not the 4 Muppets in red already on the ice ? And it was 2 Panthers players who helped Mosey off the ice .. 🙄 As a Devils fan, this is the one thing that annoyed me. Whether the hit was good or not , most of the players wouldn't have probably seen it, one of them should have gone straight over to 'have a word. They definitely saw it. As i said they were too busy shouting at the refs to bother with Mosey
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Post by kievthegreat on Jan 27, 2019 14:37:36 GMT
Some Devils on Facebook now whining that Batch is tripped for our winning goal. Even though he sticks his skate out into Lacho's path.
Edit: Facebook, not twitter
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Post by Dan on Jan 27, 2019 14:44:22 GMT
You can’t attack the head. He attacked the head. I can’t believe I’m having to explain this. You’d be spitting venom if it was the other way around. You say he attacked the head with certain knowledge did Mosey tell you or is it just your opinion? I think you are trying to put Pidge down. I don’t understand why you think this has anything to do with Pidge. I’m not insinuating that he intended the contact with the head, but the replays are pretty conclusive. You’re allowed to hit a guy in the slot like that, but you’ve got to be responsible with it and go in a little lower when his head is in a vulnerable spot. That’s just the game these days.
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Post by jk on Jan 27, 2019 14:45:16 GMT
As a Devils fan, this is the one thing that annoyed me. Whether the hit was good or not , most of the players wouldn't have probably seen it, one of them should have gone straight over to 'have a word. They definitely saw it. As i said they were too busy shouting at the refs to bother with Mosey How can you possibly know that they saw it ??
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Post by Dan on Jan 27, 2019 14:46:36 GMT
You can’t attack the head. He attacked the head. I can’t believe I’m having to explain this. You’d be spitting venom if it was the other way around. For your information I have no sympathy for any player who skates with their head down beit a player in the black and golf or another teams colours! So you're wrong.. again! Calm down Pidge. Nobody is talking about sympathy. Just whether it’s a legal hit.
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Post by jk on Jan 27, 2019 14:47:41 GMT
Some Devils on Facebook now whining that Batch is tripped for our winning goal. Even though he sticks his skate out into Lacho's path. Edit: Facebook, not twitter Rose tinted specs . Any fan of any team in the same position would do the same. Just read threads after any game of any team. If it benefits the their team they keep quiet, if it's against their team, they moan. Human nature.
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Post by Dan on Jan 27, 2019 14:48:55 GMT
You can’t attack the head. He attacked the head. I can’t believe I’m having to explain this. You’d be spitting venom if it was the other way around. Have you watched the replay? I'm in agreement that it was a good hit. Rissling has his arms down and never changes direction and the point of contact was the shoulder/chest area. Have you watched the slow-mo? To me it looks like Mosey looks up and tries to change direction to go around Rissling but ends up running straight into him. If he carried on driving to the net the contact would have been side on. Thats not a dig at Mosey just unfortunate First time I saw it I saw a possibility of doubt. Skates are on the ice, he doesn’t change position and his arms are down but that doesn’t matter too much here. The slow mo shows (from my view) pretty conclusively that the primary point of contact is the chin. I think he was out by the time he landed.
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Post by pantherlee on Jan 27, 2019 14:51:58 GMT
They definitely saw it. As i said they were too busy shouting at the refs to bother with Mosey How can you possibly know that they saw it ?? Because they were all shouting that’s a effing check to the head
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Post by iginla on Jan 27, 2019 14:54:14 GMT
Well we’ve got Ex Panther Brock Wilson saying it is a hit to the head and ex Devil Max Birbraer saying it wasn’t a hit to the head. So two ex players can’t agree. 🤔 Make of that what you will but I agree with Max, initial contact is high chest/shoulder then Mosey’s head follows through over Risslings shoulder.
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Post by pantherlee on Jan 27, 2019 14:54:28 GMT
Have you watched the replay? I'm in agreement that it was a good hit. Rissling has his arms down and never changes direction and the point of contact was the shoulder/chest area. Have you watched the slow-mo? To me it looks like Mosey looks up and tries to change direction to go around Rissling but ends up running straight into him. If he carried on driving to the net the contact would have been side on. Thats not a dig at Mosey just unfortunate First time I saw it I saw a possibility of doubt. Skates are on the ice, he doesn’t change position and his arms are down but that doesn’t matter too much here. The slow mo shows (from my view) pretty conclusively that the primary point of contact is the chin. I think he was out by the time he landed. Not that conclusively if half the forum sees it differently
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2019 15:33:31 GMT
For your information I have no sympathy for any player who skates with their head down beit a player in the black and golf or another teams colours! So you're wrong.. again! Calm down Pidge. Nobody is talking about sympathy. Just whether it’s a legal hit. You said I'd be spitting venom if the hit was on a Panthers player and I'm telling you I wouldn't if the Panthers player put himself in the same situation as Mosey or have you forgotten what you initially posted ?
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Post by ted logan on Jan 27, 2019 16:32:41 GMT
First time I saw it I saw a possibility of doubt. Skates are on the ice, he doesn’t change position and his arms are down but that doesn’t matter too much here. The slow mo shows (from my view) pretty conclusively that the primary point of contact is the chin. I think he was out by the time he landed. Not that conclusively if half the forum sees it differently As do two former players as iginla says - one from each team.
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