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Post by wannabe2 on Oct 14, 2018 17:58:43 GMT
Well that wasn’t a good display tonight by you guys, when panthers went 1-0 up I thought here we go, but after that it was all downhill. 3 huge players missing for Giants, tonight was the night to take them. Panthers just didn’t show up tonight, when it was obvious that it was time to knock them about, it didn’t happen,and I thought that was going to be a huge part of this panthers team, big strong team built to play, but also built to bully. Paid £10 to watch a spectical tonight, and unfortunately didn’t get £1 worth.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2018 18:00:29 GMT
Amazingly i never saw meltdowns of this magnitude with the crappy teams Corey had signed!! ... strange fanbase
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Post by wgray on Oct 14, 2018 18:00:59 GMT
I’m not sure if it’s fitness or the mindset/mentality of the team but when we go behind we just seem to implode. Tonight we were dumping the puck constantly, sending one man on in the forecheck, getting outworked and outfought. I also thought we were very soft at the backend, the 6th goal was a prime example of that.
We need to get the best out of Pither as well, playing him with Farmer is not working imo, for either of them. I’d keep Pither with Henderson and play the new signing with them, he has to be a quality player if we are going to challenge Cardiff this season.
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Post by wgray on Oct 14, 2018 18:04:44 GMT
Well that wasn’t a good display tonight by you guys, when panthers went 1-0 up I thought here we go, but after that it was all downhill. 3 huge players missing for Giants, tonight was the night to take them. Panthers just didn’t show up tonight, when it was obvious that it was time to knock them about, it didn’t happen,and I thought that was going to be a huge part of this panthers team, big strong team built to play, but also built to bully. Paid £10 to watch a spectical tonight, and unfortunately didn’t get £1 worth. We’ve not seen nowhere near enough physicality imo, as an outsider looking, and comparing us to Cardiff, do you think we look fit enough?
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Post by iginla on Oct 14, 2018 18:06:25 GMT
Amazingly i never saw meltdowns of this magnitude with the crappy teams Corey had signed!! ... strange fanbase I might just be tempted to disagree with that mate. 😳🤣 Lol
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Post by cooperphil156 on Oct 14, 2018 18:11:03 GMT
In some ways puzzling. We had more on the bench and they were missing Dwyer and Vandermeer - two of their better players. Yet they seem to have more energy and we didn't put passes together. I agree with much has been posted - players to get consistency need to be at the club, playing with players they can build up an understanding with. However given the roster which most seems very happy with, these two results form away games are disappointing. I dont think we can put this on GM either.
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Post by simonhunt on Oct 14, 2018 18:12:32 GMT
To win the league you have to spend enough money we wont do that.
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Post by ted logan on Oct 14, 2018 18:15:28 GMT
Exactly the same as last week. Great win and a massive high on Saturday night. Followed by Sunday, poo poo performance (especially in the 2nd period) and getting thrashed.
Disappointing.
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Oct 14, 2018 18:20:03 GMT
Exactly the same as last week. Great win and a massive high on Saturday night. Followed by Sunday, poo poo performance (especially in the 2nd period) and getting thrashed. Disappointing. We need to stop playing on the sabbath
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2018 18:30:48 GMT
As mentioned previously............ Jekyll & Hyde team currently. Let’s hope the new guy is up for this.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2018 18:31:17 GMT
Absolutely garbage performance. We were lucky to finish 2nd! Made it too easy for Belfast and were terrible after a decent first period. That just wasn’t an acceptable performance and I hope Chernomaz is giving them the hair dryer treatment.
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Post by wannabe2 on Oct 14, 2018 18:33:07 GMT
Well that wasn’t a good display tonight by you guys, when panthers went 1-0 up I thought here we go, but after that it was all downhill. 3 huge players missing for Giants, tonight was the night to take them. Panthers just didn’t show up tonight, when it was obvious that it was time to knock them about, it didn’t happen,and I thought that was going to be a huge part of this panthers team, big strong team built to play, but also built to bully. Paid £10 to watch a spectical tonight, and unfortunately didn’t get £1 worth. We’ve not seen nowhere near enough physicality imo, as an outsider looking, and comparing us to Cardiff, do you think we look fit enough? It don’t seem to be a fitness thing, and really it can’t be. Consistency is this squads downfall, one minute looking bloody awesome, next minute looking very average. Tonight’s Panthers I think would have lost to most teams, I have watched 3 Giants games so far, and they ain’t no great shakes, and playing without Vandermeer, Dwyer, and Shields, they surely were there for the taking. From a selfish point of view, and not wanting to come across as a dick, you guys playing like this are so far away from the Devils. My beloved team look like poetry in motion at the moment, that’s not to say next week we could play crap.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2018 18:33:15 GMT
If I'd been away for a month on holiday and just checked to see how we were doing tonight I'd think we were 11th in the standings... lol
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2018 18:34:22 GMT
We’ve not seen nowhere near enough physicality imo, as an outsider looking, and comparing us to Cardiff, do you think we look fit enough? It don’t seem to be a fitness thing, and really it can’t be. Consistency is this squads downfall, one minute looking bloody awesome, next minute looking very average. Tonight’s Panthers I think would have lost to most teams, I have watched 3 Giants games so far, and they ain’t no great shakes, and playing without Vandermeer, Dwyer, and Shields, they surely were there for the taking. From a selfish point of view, and not wanting to come across as a dick, you guys playing like this are so far away from the Devils. My beloved team look like poetry in motion at the moment, that’s not to say next week we could play crap. At last a sensible post
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Post by oldman on Oct 14, 2018 18:34:41 GMT
Stop making excuses,anybody would think we signed a complete new team this year. You do realise we resigned ELEVEN players from last season ? That’s 50% of our roster. we retained 11 how many were brits? How many were on a two year contract ? you make hyperbole statements like this try quantifying it with a bit of commonsense please, i would say while people are tearing the team a new one and this does not excuse tonights result, why not think about in here and with some og the supporters we seem to have a fanbase who only believe in total extremes. We win a game and we are going to walk the league with these superstars, we lose a game and whoa it's the end of the league and for some the end of the world it seems, why not get some perspective ? I mean talk about a new NM is laughable to start with, unless you mean a better back up one? We have a New coach in a league he doesnt know who is on a learning curve, so i would love to win the league and every other trophy but given a dose of realism do i expect that to happen this season hell no. In the end we are not even half way through October and people are writing off the season why?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2018 18:40:25 GMT
Stop making excuses,anybody would think we signed a complete new team this year. You do realise we resigned ELEVEN players from last season ? That’s 50% of our roster. we retained 11 how many were brits? How many were on a two year contract ? you make hyperbole statements like this try quantifying it with a bit of commonsense please, i would say while people are tearing the team a new one and this does not excuse tonights result, why not think about in here and with some og the supporters we seem to have a fanbase who only believe in total extremes. We win a game and we are going to walk the league with these superstars, we lose a game and whoa it's the end of the league and for some the end of the world it seems, why not get some perspective ? I mean talk about a new NM is laughable to start with, unless you mean a better back up one? We have a New coach in a league he doesnt know who is on a learning curve, so i would love to win the league and every other trophy but given a dose of realism do i expect that to happen this season hell no. In the end we are not even half way through October and people are writing off the season why? Another sensible post shame it only accounts for 5% of the fanbase !!
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Post by pantherlee on Oct 14, 2018 18:40:54 GMT
We have a good team imo we just seem to have a soft underbelly. I think the route of our problems at the minute is a lock of focus and discipline. There aren't any players you would consider to be duds like last year so i think the team has the potential to get on a good run and become harder to beat. Don't think we should be panicking yet as its a long season and things can and probably will change. Teams gain and lose form but there is work to be done
Kind of agree about the Lepine. He just hasn't set the world alight this time around. He's not playing bad but he's not exciting anyone either. Doesn't seem to be the fan favourite anymore like he used to be.
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Post by pantherlee on Oct 14, 2018 18:52:32 GMT
Lets not forget that Cardiffs fixtures for the start of the season have been very favourable. They are definitely the benchmark but not untouchable. They haven't played Belfast or Fife yet who are the two other strongest teams so far and have been pushed very close by Dundee and MK tonight. The toughest fixture they have had was away to Panthers. Which they lost
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Post by Jord v4 on Oct 14, 2018 18:53:18 GMT
Issue with Lepine, for me, is that he hasn't improved. He was never a great dman, a darn good enforcer/protector, but not great on D. You would hope his AHL experience would make him a better player, but it doesn't appear to be the case.
He's at best the 4th best import Dman. That's not ideal for your captain imo. Sure I get he knows the place & is probably great in the dressing room but I'd rather have a star or leading player carrying the C. Someone like Pither or Olsen for example.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2018 18:57:31 GMT
Lets not forget that Cardiffs fixtures for the start of the season have been very favourable. They are definitely the benchmark but not untouchable. They haven't played Belfast or Fife yet who are the two other strongest teams so far and have been pushed very close by Dundee and MK tonight. The toughest fixture they have had was away to Panthers. Which they lost I would say Panthers have had the toughest start to any schedule.. and we've had a fairly decent start. Played a few Wednesdays with full weekends . Already been away to Belfast twice and Cardiff too and it's only mid October
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Post by iginla on Oct 14, 2018 18:59:51 GMT
we retained 11 how many were brits? How many were on a two year contract ? you make hyperbole statements like this try quantifying it with a bit of commonsense please, i would say while people are tearing the team a new one and this does not excuse tonights result, why not think about in here and with some og the supporters we seem to have a fanbase who only believe in total extremes. We win a game and we are going to walk the league with these superstars, we lose a game and whoa it's the end of the league and for some the end of the world it seems, why not get some perspective ? I mean talk about a new NM is laughable to start with, unless you mean a better back up one? We have a New coach in a league he doesnt know who is on a learning curve, so i would love to win the league and every other trophy but given a dose of realism do i expect that to happen this season hell no. In the end we are not even half way through October and people are writing off the season why? Another sensible post shame it only accounts for 5% of the fanbase !! We retained three imports from last year and the rest were Brits. Now since you think the only way to go Pidge is retain most of your previous team like the Devils did,I’d say go and have a look at how many imports the Devils retained to go from being bridesmaids one year to winning the league the next season. Because it was only about SIX imports......Martin,Morrisette,Hotham,Haddad,Doucet and Fournier. The difference is some of those are top EIHL players and the others aren’t too bad either. The Devils certainly didn’t keep the vast majority of their imports and just bring in one or two like you seem to think.
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Post by oldman on Oct 14, 2018 19:00:07 GMT
Issue with Lepine, for me, is that he hasn't improved. He was never a great dman, a darn good enforcer/protector, but not great on D. You would hope his AHL experience would make him a better player, but it doesn't appear to be the case. He's at best the 4th best import Dman. That's not ideal for your captain imo. Sure I get he knows the place & is probably great in the dressing room but I'd rather have a star or leading player carrying the C. Someone like Pither or Olsen for example. We have seen this many times before a player returns to the franchise with the expectations on them becoming far more intense than if he was a new guy, as for being the captain given he replaced Lee who although i like him has never been our stand out dman does that C mean that much anyway ?
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Post by Jord v4 on Oct 14, 2018 19:07:57 GMT
Issue with Lepine, for me, is that he hasn't improved. He was never a great dman, a darn good enforcer/protector, but not great on D. You would hope his AHL experience would make him a better player, but it doesn't appear to be the case. He's at best the 4th best import Dman. That's not ideal for your captain imo. Sure I get he knows the place & is probably great in the dressing room but I'd rather have a star or leading player carrying the C. Someone like Pither or Olsen for example. We have seen this many times before a player returns to the franchise with the expectations on them becoming far more intense than if he was a new guy, as for being the captain given he replaced Lee who although i like him has never been our stand out dman does that C mean that much anyway ? I don't think the C overly matters in the EIHL as the turnover of players is so high.... That said my man crush Jordan Fox was a fantastic captain who led by example & he was the best/2nd best player at the club for his tenure.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2018 19:15:33 GMT
Another sensible post shame it only accounts for 5% of the fanbase !! We retained three imports from last year and the rest were Brits. Now since you think the only way to go Pidge is retain most of your previous team like the Devils did,I’d say go and have a look at how many imports the Devils retained to go from being bridesmaids one year to winning the league the next season. Because it was only about FIVE imports......Martin,Morrisette,Hotham,Haddad and Fournier. The difference is three of those are top EIHL players and the other two aren’t too bad either. The Devils certainly didn’t keep the vast majority of their imports and just bring in one or two like you seem to think. The reason they won the league that year was down to the fact their title challengers were pretty poor. Panthers won't have that advantage this year . I don't think we 'll have enough to win the title (unless Cardiff have a serious injury crisis, something they haven't had over the last 2 years ) We will remain competitive well past new year that I am convinced with.
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Post by iginla on Oct 14, 2018 19:25:47 GMT
We retained three imports from last year and the rest were Brits. Now since you think the only way to go Pidge is retain most of your previous team like the Devils did,I’d say go and have a look at how many imports the Devils retained to go from being bridesmaids one year to winning the league the next season. Because it was only about FIVE imports......Martin,Morrisette,Hotham,Haddad and Fournier. The difference is three of those are top EIHL players and the other two aren’t too bad either. The Devils certainly didn’t keep the vast majority of their imports and just bring in one or two like you seem to think. The reason they won the league that year was down to the fact their title challengers were pretty poor. Panthers won't have that advantage this year . I don't think we 'll have enough to win the title (unless Cardiff have a serious injury crisis, something they haven't had over the last 2 years ) We will remain competitive well past new year that I am convinced with. I agree,we’re a decent enough team and we’ll be top 2 or 3. We just need that extra nous and star quality that a player like Heddon or Dwyer would bring. I mean you look at the Devils and you see Heddon,Martin,Linglet,Pope,Fournier,Dixon all class players,then look at their secondary stuff like Haddad,Bentivoglio and Ulmer etc. They’ve got skill,nous and experience in spades....but i don’t see quite enough of that on Panthers roster at present.
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