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Post by DMS on Oct 14, 2018 9:27:53 GMT
Last nights game was good fun despite there being a lack of true quality or the edge that the game had against Coventry.
We struggled to keep good possession of the puck for large periods but we were clinical when it mattered along with some good set up play especially the assists from pither, Lacho and Olsen on goals 2,4 & 5.
It was good to see Henderson get a goal. He is somewhat of an unsung hero of this team. He did a more than adequate job covering on defence last week but he is such a good presence in front of the net that we haven’t really had since matt Myers.
The save by whistle was tremendous however that one world class save doesn’t make up for the fact that in my opinion he isn’t any better than an average netminder. When he is the shining light of steelers season so far in many of their fans eyes it shows how bad their season has been so far... long may it continue.
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Post by kievthegreat on Oct 14, 2018 11:40:06 GMT
The save by whistle was tremendous however that one world class save doesn’t make up for the fact that in my opinion he isn’t any better than an average netminder. When he is the shining light of steelers season so far in many of their fans eyes it shows how bad their season has been so far... long may it continue. He had the 11th best Save percentage last year, this year his stats are even worse. He's always pulled off great saves like the playoff quarter final last year. However it's no good making 1 highlight real save and still letting in 5. Best thing is that the whole reason he has a job is to free up an import slot and look how Thommo has wasted those!
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Post by nottinghamsenator on Oct 14, 2018 11:48:49 GMT
The save by whistle was tremendous however that one world class save doesn’t make up for the fact that in my opinion he isn’t any better than an average netminder. When he is the shining light of steelers season so far in many of their fans eyes it shows how bad their season has been so far... long may it continue. He had the 11th best Save percentage last year, this year his stats are even worse. He's always pulled off great saves like the playoff quarter final last year. However it's no good making 1 highlight real save and still letting in 5. Best thing is that the whole reason he has a job is to free up an import slot and look how Thommo has wasted those! Big fan of his juggling act for the first goal and Guptill froze him solid for the 5th.
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Post by SteelerBlade on Oct 14, 2018 11:53:28 GMT
Our Whistle based problem is simple. As a goalie in this league he's average, by no means the worst, but certainly not the best.
He was signed by Thommo to allow an extra skater (Like Cardiff) but he failed to realise that Whistle isn't as good as Bowns (who is as good as some imports). The advantage could've worked but Thommo squandered it. The idea was to replace O'Connor with a quality import offensive defenceman.
We signed McFadden from the University of Guelph.
Oh dear.
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Post by shinobi on Oct 14, 2018 12:30:56 GMT
Our Whistle based problem is simple. As a goalie in this league he's average, by no means the worst, but certainly not the best. He was signed by Thommo to allow an extra skater (Like Cardiff) but he failed to realise that Whistle isn't as good as Bowns (who is as good as some imports). The advantage could've worked but Thommo squandered it. The idea was to replace O'Connor with a quality import offensive defenceman. We signed McFadden from the University of Guelph. Oh dear. Any idea as to why there were fisticuffs amongst the Sheffield fans?
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Post by Shaggy on Oct 14, 2018 12:32:54 GMT
Our Whistle based problem is simple. As a goalie in this league he's average, by no means the worst, but certainly not the best. He was signed by Thommo to allow an extra skater (Like Cardiff) but he failed to realise that Whistle isn't as good as Bowns (who is as good as some imports). The advantage could've worked but Thommo squandered it. The idea was to replace O'Connor with a quality import offensive defenceman. We signed McFadden from the University of Guelph. Oh dear. Pretty much. Your main problem with Jackson Whistle isn't Jackson Whistle... it's your defence. What there is of it. This is particularly amusing for us, seeing as the Steelers have always operated on a 'defence first' basis...not any more. Your offence is nothing to write home about at the moment (granted, missing a few forwards - especially Dowd - is affecting that somewhat) but your defence is just terrible. I almost felt sorry for Jackson Whistle last night (only almost - hey, it's his own fault, he chose to sign for Sheffield! ) because he was utterly hung out to dry. And it's not as if he didn't put in some good work... that stick save on Hurtubise wasn't exactly shabby, was it? There is a little bit of credit to be given to Sheffield... they did come out with plenty of effort and energy, and they didn't stop - even out-shot us in the second period. But there was no spark there at all... no creativity. Graft and energy are not to be underestimated, but they can rarely do the job on their own. Sheffield appear to have lost most, if not all, of their really creative players - and they are certainly missing Dowd out there! (anyone know how long he's likely to be out injured?). Anyway - enough of the Tangos... what about the Panthers? Very good to see Olson and Hughes back, for a start. Thought that Garnett was unlucky to concede twice, although wasn't that first goal for Sheffield one of the unluckiest bounces ever off one of our own players? I do wish he would stop wandering quite so much, though... going to have to put a bungee cord on that lad. Speaking of Sheffield's first goal, I think that what killed them off was Guptill's first goal - answering their tally just 16 seconds later. What a reply. The Steelers players wouldn't be human if they didn't feel a little bit of 'from elation to despair' at that point. And, of course, Guptill's second was an absolute beauty. And what looked like a sensible saving of energy in the latter half of the 3rd period... there was no need to go all out against Sheffield after we made it 4-1, not with Belfast today. All in all, a good evening. I brought a work colleague to the game - she lives near Sheffield, and has only ever been to one hockey game in the past - a Steelers home game. She was SO much more impressed with our arena, our match night presentation and the general experience than when she went to The Rusty Hut. It's nice sometimes to get that kind of feedback... us jaded long-term fans often take a lot for granted and often only tend to notice the bad things. Getting a fresh perspective can be quite refreshing.
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Post by SteelerBlade on Oct 14, 2018 12:38:22 GMT
Our Whistle based problem is simple. As a goalie in this league he's average, by no means the worst, but certainly not the best. He was signed by Thommo to allow an extra skater (Like Cardiff) but he failed to realise that Whistle isn't as good as Bowns (who is as good as some imports). The advantage could've worked but Thommo squandered it. The idea was to replace O'Connor with a quality import offensive defenceman. We signed McFadden from the University of Guelph. Oh dear. Any idea as to why there were fisticuffs amongst the Sheffield fans? Allegedly a drunken Steelers fan made advances to a girl of the same age (early twenties). The girls dad was right there 😂 Needless to say the father wasn't best pleased lol.
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Post by nottinghamsenator on Oct 14, 2018 12:41:30 GMT
Our Whistle based problem is simple. As a goalie in this league he's average, by no means the worst, but certainly not the best. He was signed by Thommo to allow an extra skater (Like Cardiff) but he failed to realise that Whistle isn't as good as Bowns (who is as good as some imports). The advantage could've worked but Thommo squandered it. The idea was to replace O'Connor with a quality import offensive defenceman. We signed McFadden from the University of Guelph. Oh dear. Am I right in thinking he’s way older than most of the kids in College Hockey too? Effectively playing amateur hockey for a few years. If so, a truly bizarre signing to try and replace a 50 point plus defenceman.
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Post by SteelerBlade on Oct 14, 2018 12:48:19 GMT
Our Whistle based problem is simple. As a goalie in this league he's average, by no means the worst, but certainly not the best. He was signed by Thommo to allow an extra skater (Like Cardiff) but he failed to realise that Whistle isn't as good as Bowns (who is as good as some imports). The advantage could've worked but Thommo squandered it. The idea was to replace O'Connor with a quality import offensive defenceman. We signed McFadden from the University of Guelph. Oh dear. Am I right in thinking he’s way older than most of the kids in College Hockey too? Effectively playing amateur hockey for a few years. If so, a truly bizarre signing to try and replace a 50 point plus defenceman. Yep 😂 that's Thommo for ya.
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Post by iginla on Oct 14, 2018 12:53:53 GMT
In his three and a bit years at Steelers did Thommo actually sign any real quality players who the fans of the other main EIHL teams would say wow wish we had him ? I’m struggling to think of many if any.
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Post by Shaggy on Oct 14, 2018 13:04:39 GMT
Just watched the highlights of the game... and I'm feeling sorry now for the duo of Gui Lepine and Mike Garnett.
First Steelers goal... Garnett makes the save, rebound, hits Lepine and trickles over the line... neither player's fault (Lepine tried to stop it with his stick but was just a tad too late)... just one of those things. Lucky for the Steelers, that one.
Second Steelers goal... Pitt shoots at net, Garnett has it in his sights and his glove hand is ready - the puck hits Lepine on the way in and deflects slightly, so hits Garnett's pads and deflects out - straight to the stick of Della Rovere, who gleefully buries it past Garnett who was trying to get set for it, but probably wasn't fully there.
Definitely not Lepine's fault in either case... but talk about unlucky for him!
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Post by Jord v4 on Oct 14, 2018 13:44:03 GMT
Just watched the highlights of the game... and I'm feeling sorry now for the duo of Gui Lepine and Mike Garnett. First Steelers goal... Garnett makes the save, rebound, hits Lepine and trickles over the line... neither player's fault (Lepine tried to stop it with his stick but was just a tad too late)... just one of those things. Lucky for the Steelers, that one. Second Steelers goal... Pitt shoots at net, Garnett has it in his sights and his glove hand is ready - the puck hits Lepine on the way in and deflects slightly, so hits Garnett's pads and deflects out - straight to the stick of Della Rovere, who gleefully buries it past Garnett who was trying to get set for it, but probably wasn't fully there. Definitely not Lepine's fault in either case... but talk about unlucky for him! This is hockey.... You throw pucks on the net, into traffic, & you get your rewards. It's tips & deflections that beat a 'set' goalie. Unless you're Ben Bowns waving at Luke Pither, obviously. That's a nice finish by Della Rovere as well, he found the postage stamp with that one. The Lepine deflection knuckle balled Garnett.
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Post by sevcik on Oct 14, 2018 13:55:14 GMT
Am I right in thinking he’s way older than most of the kids in College Hockey too? Effectively playing amateur hockey for a few years. If so, a truly bizarre signing to try and replace a 50 point plus defenceman. Yep 😂 that's Thommo for ya. Well according to the oracle that is David Simms Steelers can't afford to take the risk on signing players straight out of college... Well We must all be imagining things then.... & Thommo obviously didn't agree with him....😁 One of the 'learned' Steelers fans on THF expected McFadden to be one of their main offensive threats..... Really? Then why sign Johnson & to a uni deal too....? Uni deals which Thommo was bemoaning just the season before saying he wouldn't sign players to such deals as they are a distraction... The same Aaron Johnson which was largely anonymous last night.... For me Steelers are a bang average team Whistle is not good or consistent enough to be a starter. That said he I hope he remains so.....
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Post by SteelerBlade on Oct 14, 2018 13:56:35 GMT
Yep 😂 that's Thommo for ya. Well according to the oracle that is David Simms Steelers can't afford to take the risk on signing players straight out of college... Well We must all be imagining things then.... & Thommo obviously didn't agree with him....😁 One of the 'learned' Steelers fans on THF expected McFadden to be one of their main offensive threats..... Really? Then why sign Johnson & to a uni deal too....? Uni deals which Thommo was bemoaning just the season before saying he wouldn't sign players to such deals as they are a distraction... The same Aaron Johnson which was largely anonymous last night.... For me Steelers are a bang average team Whistle is not good or consistent enough to be a starter. That said he I hope he remains so..... We're a mid table team IMO.
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Post by sevcik on Oct 14, 2018 14:05:46 GMT
Well according to the oracle that is David Simms Steelers can't afford to take the risk on signing players straight out of college... Well We must all be imagining things then.... & Thommo obviously didn't agree with him....😁 One of the 'learned' Steelers fans on THF expected McFadden to be one of their main offensive threats..... Really? Then why sign Johnson & to a uni deal too....? Uni deals which Thommo was bemoaning just the season before saying he wouldn't sign players to such deals as they are a distraction... The same Aaron Johnson which was largely anonymous last night.... For me Steelers are a bang average team Whistle is not good or consistent enough to be a starter. That said he I hope he remains so..... We're a mid table team IMO. League table doesn't lie & at present you are a bottom of the table team.... Still I can't see you staying there & id be very surprised if you don't make a few changes. How long before attendances suffer if you keep losing at home?. Steelers fans are notoriously fickle..... And I've never seen fighting in the crowd before at an ice hockey game...
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Post by pantherlee on Oct 14, 2018 14:06:27 GMT
Well according to the oracle that is David Simms Steelers can't afford to take the risk on signing players straight out of college... Well We must all be imagining things then.... & Thommo obviously didn't agree with him....😁 One of the 'learned' Steelers fans on THF expected McFadden to be one of their main offensive threats..... Really? Then why sign Johnson & to a uni deal too....? Uni deals which Thommo was bemoaning just the season before saying he wouldn't sign players to such deals as they are a distraction... The same Aaron Johnson which was largely anonymous last night.... For me Steelers are a bang average team Whistle is not good or consistent enough to be a starter. That said he I hope he remains so..... We're a mid table team IMO. You’re a bottom of the league team at the moment 😆 Sorry couldn’t help myself
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Post by SteelerBlade on Oct 14, 2018 14:08:42 GMT
We're a mid table team IMO. League table doesn't lie & at present you are a bottom of the table team.... Still I can't see you staying there & id be very surprised if you don't make a few changes. How long before attendances suffer if you keep losing at home?. Steelers fans are notoriously fickle..... And I've never seen fighting in the crowd before at an ice hockey game... That's what I mean, we'll make playoffs but not much more.
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Post by Shaggy on Oct 14, 2018 14:25:43 GMT
League table doesn't lie & at present you are a bottom of the table team.... Still I can't see you staying there & id be very surprised if you don't make a few changes. How long before attendances suffer if you keep losing at home?. Steelers fans are notoriously fickle..... And I've never seen fighting in the crowd before at an ice hockey game... That's what I mean, we'll make playoffs but not much more. Will you? Bottom 3 miss the play-offs. Right now, you are relying on 3 of the 'weaker' teams to fail to up their game as the season goes on AND for the Steelers to make a significant amount of progress. That's far from a guaranteed combination...
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Post by SteelerBlade on Oct 14, 2018 14:27:19 GMT
That's what I mean, we'll make playoffs but not much more. Will you? Bottom 3 miss the play-offs. Right now, you are relying on 3 of the 'weaker' teams to fail to up their game as the season goes on AND for the Steelers to make a significant amount of progress. That's far from a guaranteed combination... All depends on the changes Barrasso makes in terms of personnel, our performance was better last night, but we need bodies back & fast!
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Post by shinobi on Oct 14, 2018 14:28:04 GMT
Any idea as to why there were fisticuffs amongst the Sheffield fans? Allegedly a drunken Steelers fan made advances to a girl of the same age (early twenties). The girls dad was right there 😂 Needless to say the father wasn't best pleased lol. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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Post by bobness on Oct 14, 2018 14:28:05 GMT
Steelers D is static at best, most of the time. Poor Whistle, he's been given very little to play with. To be fair to McFadden, he'd played parts of 3 seasons in the AHL before a weird re-routing back to college for 2 years (via a year off) and then back to pro again. Replace O'Connor? I doubt anyone could, shy of a budget breaker.
It's hard to know where to start with how to put Sheffield right. They're a team woefully short on confidence.
Hint of offside for the final goal (play it at 0.25 speed) but that's the swing from the roundabout the other week when a perfectly good (i.e. onside, but only just) stretch pass to Guptill which got him in one on one was whistled. What a goal it was too.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 14, 2018 14:40:12 GMT
Steelers D is static at best, most of the time. Poor Whistle, he's been given very little to play with. To be fair to McFadden, he'd played parts of 3 seasons in the AHL before a weird re-routing back to college for 2 years (via a year off) and then back to pro again. Replace O'Connor? I doubt anyone could, shy of a budget breaker. It's hard to know where to start with how to put Sheffield right. They're a team woefully short on confidence. Hint of offside for the final goal (play it at 0.25 speed) but that's the swing from the roundabout the other week when a perfectly good (i.e. onside, but only just) stretch pass to Guptill which got him in one on one was whistled. What a goal it was too. Our 5th goal wasn't even close to offside.. Guptil timed it perfectly!
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Post by Shaggy on Oct 14, 2018 15:04:06 GMT
Steelers D is static at best, most of the time. Poor Whistle, he's been given very little to play with. To be fair to McFadden, he'd played parts of 3 seasons in the AHL before a weird re-routing back to college for 2 years (via a year off) and then back to pro again. Replace O'Connor? I doubt anyone could, shy of a budget breaker. It's hard to know where to start with how to put Sheffield right. They're a team woefully short on confidence. Hint of offside for the final goal (play it at 0.25 speed) but that's the swing from the roundabout the other week when a perfectly good (i.e. onside, but only just) stretch pass to Guptill which got him in one on one was whistled. What a goal it was too. Our 5th goal wasn't even close to offside.. Guptil timed it perfectly! Have to partly disagree with you there, Pidge... it was VERY close to offside! Close... but not actually offside, not quite. You are correct that Guptill timed it perfectly... if he had been even a fraction off, they'd have whistled that one down. Beautiful goal.
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Oct 14, 2018 15:24:24 GMT
Well according to the oracle that is David Simms Steelers can't afford to take the risk on signing players straight out of college... Well We must all be imagining things then.... & Thommo obviously didn't agree with him....😁 One of the 'learned' Steelers fans on THF expected McFadden to be one of their main offensive threats..... Really? Then why sign Johnson & to a uni deal too....? Uni deals which Thommo was bemoaning just the season before saying he wouldn't sign players to such deals as they are a distraction... The same Aaron Johnson which was largely anonymous last night.... For me Steelers are a bang average team Whistle is not good or consistent enough to be a starter. That said he I hope he remains so..... We're a mid table team IMO. But I bet you still beat us at least once more this season.
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Post by BigLad on Oct 14, 2018 19:58:32 GMT
Sounds like Panthers won at a canter. Olsen on the ice for all 5 Panthers' goals, as was Gula of Sheffield. No Steelers player is a + player according to the EIHL stats, and Brooks is pointless and -8 (joint league leader) in only 6 games... I thought Brooks scored on his debut?
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