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Post by Nemesis on Mar 6, 2007 17:09:40 GMT
I don't think it was just dreamt up though mate. I can't remember where it came from but it was most definately mentioned in a press release from somewhere. Having nothing to do with my team I just gave it a cursory glance at the time and binned it. I'm pretty sure I remember reading it in a (Non Sheffield) paper.
It was then mentioned again in relation to the rumoured changes in Belfast, and then again wiht regard to this.
Add to that DS comments in the match night programme and on our web site.
It has been quite widely reported via numerous sources mate.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2007 17:16:05 GMT
If there is no rule then fine, nothing to worry about as far as I'm concerned. However, it does bring up some questions.
1) Why were the clubs under the impression that there was a 6 game rule and where did they get this info from?
2) If clubs lose players to injury or just cut them, surely they'll be able to bring in replacements.
3) Why haven't clubs cut players for better ones in the run up to, or to actually participate in, the play-offs.
I think what this highlights more than ever is that the league publish their rules and make them accesible to all. That way no-one can be in any doubt as to what the rules are, and maybe the league might just re-gain some credability by making such a move.
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Post by Luca Toni on Mar 6, 2007 18:00:24 GMT
No chance Jono - it just lost the last speck of that it had. I can't believe how amateur these muppets are.
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Post by mattscold on Mar 6, 2007 18:04:10 GMT
No chance Jono - it just lost the last speck of that it had. I can't believe how amateur these muppets are. Seconded mate, a poor show i can't understand what Steelers where moaning about then they'll be in the playoffs, just didnt play at the weekend, big deal!
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Post by Mark on Mar 6, 2007 18:52:11 GMT
So what is the current situation?
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Post by texpef on Mar 6, 2007 18:53:50 GMT
there is no reason why saco or his mate wouldnt play this weekend as they are officially steelers players, however IF the 6 game rule does exist and it has been touted by more than one club but specifically since panthers signed gallant, then its simple they should not play any more once the regular season has ended.....
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Post by ginger on Mar 6, 2007 18:54:30 GMT
Who knows?!
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Post by spik on Mar 6, 2007 18:55:12 GMT
We,the fans, are in the dark as usual.
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Post by Rumpole on Mar 6, 2007 19:00:11 GMT
there is no reason why saco or his mate wouldnt play this weekend as they are officially steelers players, however IF the 6 game rule does exist and it has been touted by more than one club but specifically since panthers signed gallant, then its simple they should not play any more once the regular season has ended..... No they're not if the Italian Club won't transfer the ITC. The only club to have "touted" the 6 game rule were Steelers
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Post by NickThePanther44 on Mar 6, 2007 19:04:42 GMT
to be honest im not fond of teams bringing in better players just for the play offs, id rather see a roster stay complete throughout the season, obviously with exception like a serious injury.
back on topic, cant see a problem but i do wonder if it was us if mr Simms wouldnt have something to say.
Nick
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Post by Mark on Mar 6, 2007 19:05:23 GMT
What a shambles, we ain't a beer league, we're not that good.
If the EIHL want to retain any shred of dignity and the six game rule does exist then these two players must not be allowed to compete in the playoffs.
The EIHL should concern itself with issues within it's own league. The problem with the owner of this Italian club is absolutely nothing to do with the EIHL and is solely Sheffield's baby. It should have no bearing on any decision in relation to league rules that is taken.
Can anybody give me an example of the last time Sheffield Steelers did anything for the good of the league, because I'm struggling?
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Post by spik on Mar 6, 2007 19:13:58 GMT
there is no reason why saco or his mate wouldnt play this weekend as they are officially steelers players, however IF the 6 game rule does exist and it has been touted by more than one club but specifically since panthers signed gallant, then its simple they should not play any more once the regular season has ended..... No they're not if the Italian Club won't transfer the ITC. The only club to have "touted" the 6 game rule were Steelers Only Sheffield Players , we assume , by the fact that shirts are being worn again. I believe the papers are on the Italian owners desk still? Or whats the point of documentation.
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Post by NickThePanther44 on Mar 6, 2007 19:24:58 GMT
looking at it from that point of view Mark i totally agree, if the Italian owner decided to block the move at the last minute which then scuppered Sheffields plans then tough poop, ive been converted Nick
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Post by Doom on Mar 6, 2007 19:27:10 GMT
Can anybody give me an example of the last time Sheffield Steelers did anything for the good of the league, because I'm struggling? We have more players in the current GB squad than any other club Regards Doom
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Post by spik on Mar 6, 2007 19:38:35 GMT
and you signed one of them from us in order to do that ...... But lets talk of the league.
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Post by Luca Toni on Mar 6, 2007 20:50:15 GMT
Can anybody give me an example of the last time Sheffield Steelers did anything for the good of the league, because I'm struggling? We have more players in the current GB squad than any other club Regards Doom Methinks you don't understand the question? Mark asked about THE LEAGUE and you answer with something irrelevant to the league.
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Post by Doom on Mar 6, 2007 21:05:40 GMT
We have more players in the current GB squad than any other club Regards Doom Methinks you don't understand the question? Mark asked about THE LEAGUE and you answer with something irrelevant to the league. British players are irrelevant to the league Regards Doom
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Post by loveday on Mar 6, 2007 21:11:44 GMT
Can anybody give me an example of the last time Sheffield Steelers did anything for the good of the league, because I'm struggling? We have more players in the current GB squad than any other club Regards Doom Typical Steelers attitude. They have an ex Panther player for a few weeks, and then take all the credit that he is short listed in the GB Squad, after all the years of training he had in Nottingham. Would not expect anything less! Interesting thread on Steel Talk, Simmsy forgot to "Count " Moran in his thread about the GB Squad. He added him as an afterthought!
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Post by oldman on Mar 6, 2007 22:58:39 GMT
lets be fair though i would of course believe everything simmsy says just like i believe Bush, Blair, and all the good spinners of the truth, or truth as they invent it. at the end of the day he who lives by quoting the rules when they suit them(steelers ) should also die by the same rules they cherish so much. That is not getting our own back that is a simple fair solution, or else why have rules why not let simmsy make them up as he goes along.
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Post by ted on Mar 6, 2007 23:05:06 GMT
meh... whatever happens we represented Britain because no other club could be bothered/afford to.
We were penalised for that.
Sheffield have an injury crisis and suddenly its ok to break the rules cos its them and its the big bad italian clubs fault.
How would our clubs feel if as soon as a team didnt look like it was going to do too well all the best guys up and leave for another league to go for glory?
If they arent here for 6 games and thats the rule then thats it... end of... just like it was for us regarding regs and the CC
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Post by Nemesis on Mar 6, 2007 23:43:50 GMT
Oh the irony.........
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Post by killercarlson on Mar 6, 2007 23:58:20 GMT
Bored now....
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Post by Stoopy on Mar 7, 2007 6:38:16 GMT
Bored now.... I had that feeling 8 pages ago. Just read up to page 2 and final post.
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Post by Warren on Mar 7, 2007 11:05:09 GMT
Nem from my point of view, the Ellis / Simoes situation is different to that of Vez. As you yourself have stated, Panthers were unable to play ME against you guys as we claimed he was still a Panther, so 11 imports, Fair do's. Panthers played 1 game with an import short but still conformed to the rules. Regarding ME's registration for the CC, IF the league gave special dispensation to Panthers as a. It was not a EIHL competition b. I understand it was a pre-requsit of Panthers entering So ME did what was deemed legal at the current time and EIHL have agreed that this decision stands. Now onto Vez, Yes it is a bummer that £6k has been demanded (as point of note is that for the pair or per player?) For their ITC cards. So Steelers refused to pay it, and ask the league to bend the rules and let them play in all competitions. So from my point of view, Simmsy scream that rules are rules for Ellis (11 imports) but want rules bent for them. My opinion No. I do agree with the point of not letting other leagues / clubs hold our league/ clubs to ransom. So Steelers did the right thing of saying no, and reporting it to the authorities. As a side point I did hear a reliable rumor last year that Belfast wanted to sign 2 sides. 1 for the league (Complying to EIHL rules) and 1 for the Continental cup (Complying to IIHF rules only) This CC side was going to be Theo and a bunch of Ex-NHL'rs. The logic being win the CC and think of the publicity for the EIHL. I think IIHF scuppered this as it wasn't in the spirit of the sport
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Post by spik on Mar 7, 2007 11:29:43 GMT
And I'd agree that we can't play two sides so differing to each other. Panthers played OUR side and seems we are wrong for trying to do so anyway.
Imagine, Panthers not seen in a good light by Mr.Sims because we ought not to be given this extra hand in 'rule' bending? in order to achieve representation to the Continental Cup. Then WE (Nottingham) can't get a player in ,in time for the play-offs (namely Vez) because of an Italian club holding out. Would Mr.Sims allow that one go by too....like hell. It could still happen...injury/suspension to Trevor , would be our fault. No one elses.
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