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Post by jdizpt8 on Feb 10, 2018 22:57:59 GMT
Why do accept not knowing that panthers aren’t fully owned by Neil Black and that he has a joint ownership with someone else.
Twitter is the sauce.
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Post by Yotes on Feb 10, 2018 23:02:20 GMT
Companies House is the source. It's all freely available information. Permanent Mutual Limited, 50% shareholders in Sportscape, who hold all shares in Clan Entertainment (who presumably operate the Clan), and the majority of our operating company's shares (Aladdin, I believe).
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Post by iginla on Feb 11, 2018 0:04:16 GMT
Companies House is the source. It's all freely available information. Permanent Mutual Limited, 50% shareholders in Sportscape, who hold all shares in Clan Entertainment (who presumably operate the Clan), and the majority of our operating company's shares (Aladdin, I believe). Highly likely some sort of tax haven one assumes.
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Post by Yotes on Feb 11, 2018 0:08:04 GMT
Well Bermuda is a tax haven, but (mod warning!) it'd be unwise for anyone to make any suggestion of how this relates to the Panthers, without being willing and able to prove it in court, if required.
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Post by Rob Scott on Feb 11, 2018 0:15:02 GMT
It's interesting to see how things like this are gradually becoming more common place and talked about.
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Post by tootootrain on Feb 11, 2018 0:42:23 GMT
Companies House is the source. It's all freely available information. Permanent Mutual Limited, 50% shareholders in Sportscape, who hold all shares in Clan Entertainment (who presumably operate the Clan), and the majority of our operating company's shares (Aladdin, I believe). It's interesting how many different active companies, based in Bermuda and here in the UK feature those same three directors.
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Post by iginla on Feb 11, 2018 1:02:07 GMT
Companies House is the source. It's all freely available information. Permanent Mutual Limited, 50% shareholders in Sportscape, who hold all shares in Clan Entertainment (who presumably operate the Clan), and the majority of our operating company's shares (Aladdin, I believe). It's interesting how many different active companies, based in Bermuda and here in the UK feature those same three directors. When's the next Q+A ? 😛😀
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Post by ant on Feb 11, 2018 7:59:24 GMT
Has anyone even seen a Moran Out poster?Most people still clap them off the ice.... Thing is we can't change anything.
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Post by pantherdman on Feb 11, 2018 8:03:22 GMT
Everyone knows what ‘bermuda’ is.
We all know a massive chunk of the income goes out the game, just like the play offs and cup final. No regulation, no rules, the least they could do is ice a competitive team.
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Post by ted logan on Feb 11, 2018 9:29:06 GMT
Has anyone seen a Laser recently?
Last seen at the end of November. Apparently purchased on one of those 2 for 1 deals with a Radar.
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Post by iginla on Feb 11, 2018 9:45:24 GMT
Has anyone seen a Laser recently? Last seen at the end of November. Apparently purchased on one of those 2 for 1 deals with a Radar. Just think where we might have been this season had we NOT been laser focussed on the league ! Perhaps 10th, 11th ? 🙄🙄🙄
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Post by ted logan on Feb 11, 2018 9:55:49 GMT
Has anyone seen a Laser recently? Last seen at the end of November. Apparently purchased on one of those 2 for 1 deals with a Radar. Just think where we might have been this season had we NOT been laser focussed on the league ! Perhaps 10th, 11th ? 🙄🙄🙄 No doubt, potentially outside the top 8.
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Post by mardibum on Feb 11, 2018 12:16:27 GMT
We accept failure because I'm afraid nobody has the cojones to try and change it. Where are the posters? What happened to the "Stand up if you want the league" chant. I tried "Neilson Out!" but as I'm surrounded by kids (bless their little high-pitched voices!) nobody joined in. Where's the passion and the protests?
If you all sit there saying, "Oh, well nothing will happen", IT WONT!!! I can appreciate staying away because you can't stand the humiliation any more, but there will always be someone else to take your seat, someone who has no passion for the team, but just goes for the entertainment. Someone who thinks that this is normal. Black won't notice your absence for a moment. He would if a thousand stopped going, but can you really see that?
There has to be some sort of organised protest publicised on social media, other teams forums, local press, local TV before any ripples are caused in Black Towers.
Yes - it might all come to naught, but if we don't do anything it will definitely come to naught.
However, if I'm honest, I can't see anyone devoting any effort to doing anything. It will be like the Trust asking for nominees for the Board, nobody will apply. It only takes 2 minutes to post something on here anything else seems too much effort for some folks.
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Feb 11, 2018 12:25:48 GMT
We accept failure because I'm afraid nobody has the cojones to try and change it. Where are the posters? What happened to the "Stand up if you want the league" chant. I tried "Neilson Out!" but as I'm surrounded by kids (bless their little high-pitched voices!) nobody joined in. Where's the passion and the protests? If you all sit there saying, "Oh, well nothing will happen", IT WONT!!! I can appreciate staying away because you can't stand the humiliation any more, but there will always be someone else to take your seat, someone who has no passion for the team, but just goes for the entertainment. Someone who thinks that this is normal. Black won't notice your absence for a moment. He would if a thousand stopped going, but can you really see that? There has to be some sort of organised protest publicised on social media, other teams forums, local press, local TV before any ripples are caused in Black Towers. Yes - it might all come to naught, but if we don't do anything it will definitely come to naught. However, if I'm honest, I can't see anyone devoting any effort to doing anything. It will be like the Trust asking for nominees for the Board, nobody will apply. It only takes 2 minutes to post something on here anything else seems too much effort for some folks. The fans of the actual sport side itself are massively outnumbered already by the Saturday night entertainment crowd and a lot of them still clapped the team off last night. There are more of them than there are of anyone else and that number % grows every season. The winters are too long now and life is way too short.
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Post by mardibum on Feb 11, 2018 12:39:21 GMT
If we can get some sort of organised protest going, will YOU get involved? Genuine question - just canvassing support.
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Post by mardibum on Feb 11, 2018 12:43:19 GMT
How about you, Iginla? (you'd make a good action group chairman!), Ted Logan, Too Too train, Yotes, Bagheera, Pantherdman, et al??
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Post by mardibum on Feb 11, 2018 12:44:54 GMT
Sorry, Pidge, forgot you! Meet you all in the pub before the next home game?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2018 12:54:42 GMT
Sorry, Pidge, forgot you! Meet you all in the pub before the next home game? I would love to meet up before the next game and hell arrange something but last night was my last game til change occurs and I don't live round the corner any more
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Post by spik on Feb 11, 2018 13:45:06 GMT
Sorry, Pidge, forgot you! Meet you all in the pub before the next home game? I would love to meet up before the next game and hell arrange something but last night was my last game til change occurs and I don't live round the corner any more All round your house then.
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Post by simonm on Feb 11, 2018 13:52:17 GMT
"Where are the posters? What happened to the "Stand up if you want the league" chant. ""
The impression I got was that people weren't that interested, far too many negative posts knocking any potential impact. And as you say it's easy to spend 2 mins writing a post on here. Yet when even that is to much effort for most people to counter the negative posts and show support of any action.... It just reinforces to me that the re- calibration of our supporter base is almost complete..
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Post by BigLad on Feb 11, 2018 13:56:10 GMT
Laughable.
20 people on a forum with a chant vs 7000 other people.
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Post by simonm on Feb 11, 2018 13:57:21 GMT
Sheep
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Post by pantherdman on Feb 11, 2018 14:11:17 GMT
I hardly go now. When I started going, I brought everything, season ticket, shirts, programmes, a few pints, etc. First they put the beer price up, so I stopped drinking in the arena. Then, I realised how poor the team were compared to the income, so I stopped buying the merch. Then I spotted the trend of the wheels coming off around Christmas and the club not caring, so I cancelled the season ticket.
I went to every chl game, in part, to see fresh opposition and it was great. As soon as the club take there foot off the gas, I stop going. The panthers miss management has cost them around £500 a season from me. That’s really my protest. Although, I’m always up for a chant of “black out!”
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Post by mardibum on Feb 11, 2018 14:25:32 GMT
Sorry, Pidge, forgot you! Meet you all in the pub before the next home game? I would love to meet up before the next game and hell arrange something but last night was my last game til change occurs and I don't live round the corner any more Ah, so you’re waiting for someone ELSE to change things for you. Your absence will achieve nothing, your input might.
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Post by mardibum on Feb 11, 2018 14:27:38 GMT
Laughable. 20 people on a forum with a chant vs 7000 other people. You’re completely missing the point. 50 people to START a chant. Don’t all chants start like that then gather support? Another useful post!
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