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Post by Mark on Dec 18, 2017 14:08:54 GMT
Considering history and the predictable recent performances I cannot believe anybody is defending the Panthers. How many time to we have to watch the same sorry story before the penny drops?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2017 15:25:35 GMT
Considering history and the predictable recent performances I cannot believe anybody is defending the Panthers. How many time to we have to watch the same sorry story before the penny drops? It will never drop Mark unfortunately.
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Post by iginla on Dec 18, 2017 15:42:47 GMT
I really wish there was a Q+A with Neil Black this week.
When’s the next one ?
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Post by bobness on Dec 18, 2017 16:11:17 GMT
Point of order, 71 and 91 are very much due assists on the Billingsley goal.
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Post by shinobi on Dec 18, 2017 16:40:43 GMT
I really wish there was a Q+A with Neil Black this week. When’s the next one ? Do you want to get banned?
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Post by No 29 on Dec 18, 2017 17:28:40 GMT
Point of order, 71 and 91 are very much due assists on the Billingsley goal. I think TD got too excited with the thought of a video review.
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Post by wgray on Dec 18, 2017 17:49:46 GMT
Point of order, 71 and 91 are very much due assists on the Billingsley goal. how do the officials miss it, and the highlights are out now so surely somebody from the club will have looked at them and seen they got the assists? Bizarre
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Post by bobness on Dec 18, 2017 18:14:59 GMT
Point of order, 71 and 91 are very much due assists on the Billingsley goal. how do the officials miss it, and the highlights are out now so surely somebody from the club will have looked at them and seen they got the assists? Bizarre Frankly, normally the players tell them who did what. Seems very strange. Especially as Buss's pass was a corker.
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Post by pantherdman on Dec 18, 2017 18:17:10 GMT
So, did it cross the line or not? That’s the only reason a watched the ‘hi-lights” and they left it out. Garbage hi-lights just like the performance.
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Post by iginla on Dec 18, 2017 18:47:00 GMT
I really wish there was a Q+A with Neil Black this week. When’s the next one ? Do you want to get banned? To be quite honest. It wouldn’t bother me in the slightest if i did. Certainly wouldn’t stop me giving him both barrels.
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Post by panthersdave on Dec 18, 2017 18:57:48 GMT
And after Thompson’s little Monday morning motivational skate they went and lost the next two games. That worked well for them! You would rather our coach said or did nothing then would you ? The difference between Sheffield and Panthers is that one team reacts to the problem and the other just sits there doing nothing. And in one camp they win the league quite regularly,whilst in the other the same blueprint follows year,after year,after year,after year,after year.... If your happy accepting excuses and mediocrity then that’s up to you,but I’m not ! Thommo regularly throws his players under a bus publically. Some coaches don’t do that and privately the message is very different to the public one. Now please direct me to where I said I accept mediocrity.
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Post by bobness on Dec 18, 2017 19:24:43 GMT
So, did it cross the line or not? That’s the only reason a watched the ‘hi-lights” and they left it out. Garbage hi-lights just like the performance. If you mean the Billingsley goal, then yes, no doubt at all. God knows why there was even a review. The other review was exactly the same, but opposite. No way did it go in, I was sat bang on the goal line. Now the highlights are "garbage" too? Crikey, it's only a game...
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Post by Optic on Dec 18, 2017 19:35:43 GMT
So, did it cross the line or not? That’s the only reason a watched the ‘hi-lights” and they left it out. Garbage hi-lights just like the performance. I agree with you regarding the highlights I watched Sheffield's highlights against Fife... their highlights are miles better buy a decent camera or 2 Panthers!
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Post by Yotes on Dec 18, 2017 19:36:14 GMT
I wouldn't mind seeing the other one again, just to see how much my eyes played tricks on me. Was sure it went in off the bar and back out again.
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Post by Bagheera on Dec 18, 2017 19:37:58 GMT
So, did it cross the line or not? That’s the only reason a watched the ‘hi-lights” and they left it out. Garbage hi-lights just like the performance. If you mean the Billingsley goal, then yes, no doubt at all. God knows why there was even a review. The other review was exactly the same, but opposite. No way did it go in, I was sat bang on the goal line. Now the highlights are "garbage" too? Crikey, it's only a game... As much as the game was a disaster and I thought Darnell again also made some strange calls on the penalties. I did have to chuckle at people getting upset at the no goal review. Firstly he was spot on to let play continue to the next stopage before reviewing. It certainly did just hit the iron and drop flat on the ice, no goal. For him to review the goal and then people to start booing and singing "You dont know what you're doing". 😂. Seriously, he just watched a replay on a screen and the people in the stands had seen it live, once. Therefor he obviously must be wrong.
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Post by iginla on Dec 18, 2017 20:03:51 GMT
Darnell let play go on and Belfast attacked. What would have happened if Belfast had scored,then Darnell had reviewed the Panthers effort and it had been a goal.
I take it any Belfast goal would have been disallowed and Panthers goal given ?
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Post by kievthegreat on Dec 18, 2017 20:21:20 GMT
Darnell let play go on and Belfast attacked. What would have happened if Belfast had scored,then Darnell had reviewed the Panthers effort and it had been a goal. I take it any Belfast goal would have been disallowed and Panthers goal given ? Correct. Darnell did everything perfectly to the book.
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Post by Bagheera on Dec 18, 2017 20:24:00 GMT
Darnell let play go on and Belfast attacked. What would have happened if Belfast had scored,then Darnell had reviewed the Panthers effort and it had been a goal. I take it any Belfast goal would have been disallowed and Panthers goal given ? I believe so. Not sure if it has happened in EIHL yet. Where a goal has been reviewed after a period of time and then given. As I understand it the game clock would go back to the time of the reviewed goal. So in theory should play go on for another 10 mins it would all have to be replayed. No idea if there are any limits or a point where a ref would just stop it.
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Post by iginla on Dec 18, 2017 20:39:52 GMT
Darnell let play go on and Belfast attacked. What would have happened if Belfast had scored,then Darnell had reviewed the Panthers effort and it had been a goal. I take it any Belfast goal would have been disallowed and Panthers goal given ? I believe so. Not sure if it has happened in EIHL yet. Where a goal has been reviewed after a period of time and then given. As I understand it the game clock would go back to the time of the reviewed goal. So in theory should play go on for another 10 mins it would all have to be replayed. No idea if there are any limits or a point where a ref would just stop it. That all seems rather pointless to let play go on where nothing may count. Seems a better option to stop play and call an immediate review.
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Post by pantherdman on Dec 18, 2017 21:39:43 GMT
So, did it cross the line or not? That’s the only reason a watched the ‘hi-lights” and they left it out. Garbage hi-lights just like the performance. If you mean the Billingsley goal, then yes, no doubt at all. God knows why there was even a review. The other review was exactly the same, but opposite. No way did it go in, I was sat bang on the goal line. Now the highlights are "garbage" too? Crikey, it's only a game... It would have been nice to show us what Darnell watched for the review. It was kind of a big moment.
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Post by kievthegreat on Dec 18, 2017 23:35:58 GMT
I believe so. Not sure if it has happened in EIHL yet. Where a goal has been reviewed after a period of time and then given. As I understand it the game clock would go back to the time of the reviewed goal. So in theory should play go on for another 10 mins it would all have to be replayed. No idea if there are any limits or a point where a ref would just stop it. That all seems rather pointless to let play go on where nothing may count. Seems a better option to stop play and call an immediate review. Unless your team gets lucky and onto a 2 on 1 breakaway after it rebounds off the bar. Worth noting the rules were the same before GLT. Had a goal away to Dundee given in similar circumstances last year, play carried on and then afterwards the ref went back and talked to the linesman and goal judge and gave a goal.
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Post by ted logan on Dec 19, 2017 13:26:11 GMT
I'm certainly not a Darnell fan but had no problem with him not allowing the goal. My first reaction was that it went in but that was with one look, at full speed from 100 feet away. He saw a replay and decided no goal, I accepted it. Was amazed at the stick he got. On the rules though, I am surprised that they don't stop play straight away to review it.
We can't let talk of Darnell distract us from what was a woeful, insipid, disjointed, uninspiring, lacklustre performance. Need to stop the rot/blip and quickly.
Belfast were clinical in fairness though, looked a much better team than earlier in the season. Serious title contenders now.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2017 13:37:38 GMT
I've not been to a game since November due to holidays and family commitment but I always feared we have a run like this in the bag.
It doesn't make me like this team any less. We were crying out for a younger fitter team this year which we have but what you have in youth you lose in experience.
Our OT record earlier in the season has disguised the fact that we are currently only really a 3rd or 4th placed team in reality. I would love for us to bring in one (ideally 2) experienced heads just to steady the ship a little.
Now is the time I'd love to see Clarke step up and be the leader we need him to be but I fear he is now just coasting towards the end of his last season.
Going into a hectic schedule though we may be praising the fact we have a young team by the end of December as other teams struggle to cope.
Two big games this weekend to change our momentum around, time for Corey to earn his pennies this week.
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Post by iginla on Dec 19, 2017 14:22:57 GMT
I've not been to a game since November due to holidays and family commitment but I always feared we have a run like this in the bag. It doesn't make me like this team any less. We were crying out for a younger fitter team this year which we have but what you have in youth you lose in experience. Our OT record earlier in the season has disguised the fact that we are currently only really a 3rd or 4th placed team in reality. I would love for us to bring in one (ideally 2) experienced heads just to steady the ship a little. Now is the time I'd love to see Clarke step up and be the leader we need him to be but I fear he is now just coasting towards the end of his last season. Going into a hectic schedule though we may be praising the fact we have a young team by the end of December as other teams struggle to cope. Two big games this weekend to change our momentum around, time for Corey to earn his pennies this week. Spot on that post. Clarkey will retire end of season yep and we probably are a third placed team. Everybody keeps saying we’re young,but we aren’t that young. We have six players of over 30 years old and with the exception of Mokshantsev and the young Brits all the rest are in their mid to late 20’s so we can’t use inexperience as an excuse for anything.
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Post by PantherB on Dec 19, 2017 14:51:20 GMT
All players included, we have the 5th youngest roster, but Edinburgh who have the youngest roster are only an average of 1 year younger that us. Compared to Belfast who are over 4 years older than us on average.
We need to see more from Shalla, and Bussieres. I'd like Gagnon to step up his toughness too, throw more hits and play harder but also focus on the guys in front of net more. Mokshantsev is being held back by his inability to communicate well due to obvious reasons. We're missing Mosey. Philips can either be exceptional or sloppy, always see him and Bussieres taking one timers at the end of warm up, no way any goalie is stopping some of those bullets he fires.. he just needs to be put in the right places and given the chances.
Players seem to be getting frustrated because opposition teams are closing us down hard, leaving us little room to find space and our players don't seem to be smart enough that often to create space effectively so there's a lot of cases of players taking the puck over the blue line, having no options and being forced into turning over the puck because everyone else is behind them.
Our line changes seem to suck too. Dump and chase is useless if players won't throw the body and chase hard like they did in the CHL.. what happened to doing that? Now we just skate in gently and attempt to poke the puck away from about 6ft away.
I do really love this team but they're infuriatingly inconsistent. Even if Mosey and Galbraith were healthy and playing, I too feel like we need at least one more player, probably two because our defence seems way too offensively happy.
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