nate24
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Post by nate24 on Aug 12, 2017 10:56:57 GMT
absolutely lost for words. The club for all its faults deserves credit for at least trying to put together the best squad we've seen in a long time. I think our depth is deeper than Cardiffs now. It's going to be a fun season methinks. And 2 spares in early with Tetlow and Kelsall in the wings. This is a very exciting on ice moment Not forgetting Hazeldine too.... Gonna be one hell of a season. I'm hoping Though Neilson plays settled/near settled lines this season & that the injury curse doesn't take hold again Hopefully Zakharchenko will get his Visa sorted soon too..... He won't settle his lines.
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Post by deke on Aug 12, 2017 11:22:34 GMT
We have such a deep squad! Lachowitz hopefully will have no choice but to up his game with his position under threat. He may have to actually try!
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Post by iginla on Aug 12, 2017 11:27:32 GMT
I wonder if Thommo had a little "Molin moment" when he saw the Perlini signing.
Bet he did. Lol 😂
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Post by Lord of the Rinks on Aug 12, 2017 12:03:21 GMT
I wonder if Thommo had a little "Molin moment" when he saw the Perlini signing. Bet he did. Lol 😂 That Molin moment was class, I'll never forget the look on his face when he saw the white boots.😂
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Post by Kovalchuk17 on Aug 12, 2017 12:15:51 GMT
We have such a deep squad! Lachowitz hopefully will have no choice but to up his game with his position under threat. He may have to actually try! Someone needs to tell him the free drinks dry up in the bars round town when he's not a Panther... Sure that would work!
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Post by iginla on Aug 12, 2017 12:23:02 GMT
We have such a deep squad! Lachowitz hopefully will have no choice but to up his game with his position under threat. He may have to actually try! Someone needs to tell him the free drinks dry up in the bars round town when he's not a Panther... Sure that would work! Haha Good job he's already sorted out a decent looking bird too ! 😂
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Post by thebestpanthers on Aug 12, 2017 12:32:28 GMT
Just like the buses - you wait for one to turn up, and then two come together
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Post by Kovalchuk17 on Aug 12, 2017 12:46:59 GMT
In all seriousness, it'll be interesting how Lacho does respond.
The past few new Brits in the team (Boxill, returning Myers, Farmer, emergence of Betteridge) have only driven his performances down rather than up. He doesn't seem to react well to 'competition' for places.
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Post by Yotes on Aug 12, 2017 13:50:36 GMT
Another good signing, especially as a Brit, well done Corey.
So with the new roster rules, we're allowed 14 imports (we've got 15 I think?), 5 senior Brits (we've got 5i think?) and another 3 U23 Brits (got 4?) for a 22 total?
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Post by pingchowchi on Aug 12, 2017 14:15:19 GMT
I think you can have as many brit u23's as you like.
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Post by Shaggy on Aug 12, 2017 14:49:34 GMT
As unimpressed as I am with the Panthers website, the EIHL one is far, far worse... it's a nightmare trying to find any decent information on there! (Conspiracy theorists may speculate that it's deliberate, that they just want to keep us in the dark... personally I just think they're utterly incompetent). But eventually, I found the appropriate info:- 2017-18 roster rulesSo... 14 imports max. (on the ice... nothing to say we can't have more overall). We have 15 Garnett Zakharchenko Spang Billingsley Brisebois Gagnon Sauve Brown Mosey Derlargo Lindhagen Shalla Phillips Mokshantsev Bussieres Maximum playing roster (of full-time players) at 19... so that's basically 5 full-time Brits, if you assume a full load of imports. We have 7 Gospel Lee Clarke Lachowicz Farmer Betteridge Perlini So it looks like 2 full-time outskaters and 1 netminder (Brits or imports) are going to be rested each game. And up to 3 U-23s. We have 3 Hazeldine Tetlow Kelsall We have 6 full-time D-men, so you'd think that 2 forwards will be left out for most games... that still gives us 13 forwards (4 full lines plus a spare) and 3 defensive lines... plus whatever may happen with the U23s. Looks to me like Corey is going to be spoilt for choice!
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Post by nate24 on Aug 12, 2017 15:01:11 GMT
As unimpressed as I am with the Panthers website, the EIHL one is far, far worse... it's a nightmare trying to find any decent information on there! (Conspiracy theorists may speculate that it's deliberate, that they just want to keep us in the dark... personally I just think they're utterly incompetent). But eventually, I found the appropriate info:- 2017-18 roster rulesSo... 14 imports max. (on the ice... nothing to say we can't have more overall). We have 15 Garnett Zakharchenko Spang Billingsley Brisebois Gagnon Sauve Brown Mosey Derlargo Lindhagen Shalla Phillips Mokshantsev Bussieres Maximum playing roster (of full-time players) at 19... so that's basically 5 full-time Brits, if you assume a full load of imports. We have 7 Gospel Lee Clarke Lachowicz Farmer Betteridge Perlini So it looks like 2 full-time outskaters and 1 netminder (Brits or imports) are going to be rested each game. And up to 3 U-23s. We have 3 Hazeldine Tetlow Kelsall We have 6 full-time D-men, so you'd think that 2 forwards will be left out for most games... that still gives us 13 forwards (4 full lines plus a spare) and 3 defensive lines... plus whatever may happen with the U23s. Looks to me like Corey is going to be spoilt for choice! Tinkering, think of all of the tinkering he can do 😂 This isn't a coach who handles having options well.
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Post by GuinnessMan on Aug 12, 2017 15:21:04 GMT
Betteridge is still an under 23 I believe
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Post by PantherG on Aug 12, 2017 15:22:01 GMT
As unimpressed as I am with the Panthers website, the EIHL one is far, far worse... it's a nightmare trying to find any decent information on there! (Conspiracy theorists may speculate that it's deliberate, that they just want to keep us in the dark... personally I just think they're utterly incompetent). But eventually, I found the appropriate info:- 2017-18 roster rulesSo... 14 imports max. (on the ice... nothing to say we can't have more overall). We have 15 Garnett Zakharchenko Spang Billingsley Brisebois Gagnon Sauve Brown Mosey Derlargo Lindhagen Shalla Phillips Mokshantsev Bussieres Maximum playing roster (of full-time players) at 19... so that's basically 5 full-time Brits, if you assume a full load of imports. We have 7 Gospel Lee Clarke Lachowicz Farmer Betteridge Perlini So it looks like 2 full-time outskaters and 1 netminder (Brits or imports) are going to be rested each game. And up to 3 U-23s. We have 3 Hazeldine Tetlow Kelsall We have 6 full-time D-men, so you'd think that 2 forwards will be left out for most games... that still gives us 13 forwards (4 full lines plus a spare) and 3 defensive lines... plus whatever may happen with the U23s. Looks to me like Corey is going to be spoilt for choice! Sam Gospel is a 23 and under player, although he turns 24, just before the play offs, not sure if he can see the season out as and 23 and under player or if that will impacts us. Betteridge is also an under 23 player so we are spot on with that roster. I also expect David Clarke to take a bit of back seat and be used sparingly as he transitions into coaching.
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Post by PantherG on Aug 12, 2017 15:24:22 GMT
So it really looks like this
So... 14 imports max. (on the ice... nothing to say we can't have more overall). We have 15 Garnett Zakharchenko Spang Billingsley Brisebois Gagnon Sauve Brown Mosey Derlargo Lindhagen Shalla Phillips Mokshantsev Bussieres
Maximum playing roster (of full-time players) at 19... so that's basically 5 full-time Brits, if you assume a full load of imports. We have 5 23 and under
Lee Clarke Lachowicz Farmer Perlini
And 5 U-23s. We have 5 Gospel Betteridge Hazeldine Tetlow Kelsall
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Post by GuinnessMan on Aug 12, 2017 15:28:00 GMT
Doesn't gospel fall into the over 23s? .... Edit, it looks like he qualifies as u23 being born in 1994.
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Post by Bagheera on Aug 12, 2017 15:29:54 GMT
We are fine this coming season. If the rules stay the same for next there will need to be a change. One of the current over 23 Brits would have to sit/be moved on. I'm guessing this will be Clarkes last season. Next season Gospel will occupy that space should he stay. I think Betteridge still qualifies under 23 next season too.
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Post by Bagheera on Aug 12, 2017 15:30:49 GMT
Doesn't gospel fall into the over 23s? No. Somewhere when the rules were announced there was a cut off birth date. I believe he is a few months the right side of it.
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Post by PantherG on Aug 12, 2017 15:39:47 GMT
Doesn't gospel fall into the over 23s? No. Somewhere when the rules were announced there was a cut off birth date. I believe he is a few months the right side of it. Listed as under 23 in Elite Prospects
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Post by Yotes on Aug 12, 2017 15:42:48 GMT
Says born 1994 or later on Shaggy's link, so I guess next year it'll be 1995 and he'll become a senior. So looks like normally we'll sit an import netminder, play all our senior Brits, Gospel and Ollie and one of the other u23s. That's until the injury curse strikes of course Hazeldine was born in 2001... how did I get so flipping old?
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Post by spik on Aug 12, 2017 16:01:47 GMT
Surely if a player tut s 24 by the play offs. Your 23 now, so not under 23.Just saying...
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Post by Shaggy on Aug 12, 2017 16:17:03 GMT
Oops... yes, Betteridge is younger than I thought! Mea culpa.. Re Gospel, though... silly me, here was I thinking that anyone over the age of 23 wouldn't qualify for U23 status... common sense and logic - in British ice hockey? What was I thinking?
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nate24
Greg Hadden
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Post by nate24 on Aug 12, 2017 16:26:18 GMT
As the old EIHL adage goes 'rules are made to be created as we go along'.
I think you guys have a better grasp than the league.
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Post by Shaggy on Aug 12, 2017 16:32:16 GMT
As the old EIHL adage goes 'rules are made to be created as we go along'. But only as long as they've got the back of a fag packet to write upon. And that's harder than you might think! Remember that the Elite League directors can only ever do that in groups of three... one who can read, one who can write, and one to keep an eye on the two dangerous intellectuals! That's not hard... the Elite League couldn't find its backside with both hands and satnav. Sadly the EIHA is no better... welcome to British ice hockey (see my signature below for my overall assessment of our sport...)
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Post by Yotes on Aug 12, 2017 16:41:31 GMT
Surely if a player tut s 24 by the play offs. Your 23 now, so not under 23.Just saying... Provided the rule is consistent I think it's OK, so long as you don't have a situation where someone starts the season as an u23 and then turns senior mid season. Although they could've made the cut off 1st September of whatever year I suppose to make it better fit the season.
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