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Post by deke on Aug 12, 2016 14:43:43 GMT
Corey cannot afford to cheap out on this one surely he has pleanty left. You can't tell me the guys we got in are on as much as cam schmidt kolnik mosey bombach and Myers were on. Splash the cash Corey don't try and cheap out.
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Post by wgray on Aug 12, 2016 14:45:19 GMT
Brian McGrattan's a free agent...
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Post by PantherB on Aug 12, 2016 14:48:31 GMT
Gutted. Can't see anyone replacating the way inwhich he induced fear into opponents, his huge hits and ability to be quite level headed most of the time.
Very disappointed to see so many moaning about Panthers and how this 'always happens' as if Panthers have done nothing but pack their bags and drive them to the airport themselves. He's got a very good opportunity within the organisation of his hometown NHL Team, working with people he knows very well and no doubt earning somewhat more, whilst reporting on the St. Louis games, talking to their players and getting fully involved with the team again. Brock Wilson also works for the Blues, perhaps he had a helping hand in Cam getting the job, but one thing for sure is that the fact he gets to be around his lifelong friends and family too will have also been a big factor. Can you blame him? No. Can you blame Panthers? No. This is just a very unfortunate thing for Panthers which was very much out of their hands, same with Mosey's departure. You try to hold back a player from bigger and better things back in their home country, your reputation will be tarnished and everyone knows that the league is used as a stepping stone towards bigger things more often than not.
There's plenty of tough guys out there without jobs, a personally can't see us getting anyone as effective or as good a human being as Cam but we have plenty of options.
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Post by Yotes on Aug 12, 2016 14:51:16 GMT
Who's blaming the Panthers? Pidge was merely stating that this seems to happen a lot, which it does.
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Post by Judda on Aug 12, 2016 14:52:40 GMT
Well said PantherB i dont see anyone coming in and being half as good as Cam, hope I am wrong
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Post by PantherB on Aug 12, 2016 14:53:45 GMT
Who's blaming the Panthers? Pidge was merely stating that this seems to happen a lot, which it does. There's more than one post subtly throwing the blame game and disappointment Panthers' way. What Pidge said was correct, no problem with that but then others add to it and then suggest, subtly, that we're no good at holding down our own players etc.. Everytime a big name leaves us, everytime.
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Post by EMB on Aug 12, 2016 14:54:23 GMT
Wonder how long the club have known about this? flights booked accomodation booked, should have been flying in this weekend? More like lets sell a few more tickets to the opening Clan game on Friday before we release the bad news. Cam must have known about this offer for a while these jobs dont just appear in 24hrs. Wish him well but I'm gutted, contracts mean Jack al
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Post by tim27 on Aug 12, 2016 14:56:27 GMT
Gutted. Can't see anyone replacating the way inwhich he induced fear into opponents, his huge hits and ability to be quite level headed most of the time. Very disappointed to see so many moaning about Panthers and how this 'always happens' as if Panthers have done nothing but pack their bags and drive them to the airport themselves. He's got a very good opportunity within the organisation of his hometown NHL Team, working with people he knows very well and no doubt earning somewhat more, whilst reporting on the St. Louis games, talking to their players and getting fully involved with the team again. Brock Wilson also works for the Blues, perhaps he had a helping hand in Cam getting the job, but one thing for sure is that the fact he gets to be around his lifelong friends and family too will have also been a big factor. Can you blame him? No. Can you blame Panthers? No. This is just a very unfortunate thing for Panthers which was very much out of their hands, same with Mosey's departure. You try to hold back a player from bigger and better things back in their home country, your reputation will be tarnished and everyone knows that the league is used as a stepping stone towards bigger things more often than not. There's plenty of tough guys out there without jobs, a personally can't see us getting anyone as effective or as good a human being as Cam but we have plenty of options. The thing is it happens to panthers and awful lot, at least twice last year, three times this year and seemingly at least one player backs out of panthers every year. If panthers know a player is looking at other options state it when you sign them. Cam and Mosey wouldn't of signed with out telling them that they are looking at other options. I am not saying there is much they can do about it, but be honest with the fans. I doubt very much that this came out of the blue and cam just announced to them today that he would not be returning.
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Post by Yotes on Aug 12, 2016 14:58:05 GMT
Who's blaming the Panthers? Pidge was merely stating that this seems to happen a lot, which it does. There's more than one post subtly throwing the blame game and disappointment Panthers' way. What Pidge said was correct, no problem with that but then others add to it and then suggest, subtly, that we're no good at holding down our own players etc.. Everytime a big name leaves us, everytime. I think you're reading what you want to read. All I see is a lot of disappointment about losing a popular guy who played his role brilliantly, I doubt anyone is expecting Gary & Corey to be able to enforce a contract on him.
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Post by texpef on Aug 12, 2016 15:05:46 GMT
Who's blaming the Panthers? Pidge was merely stating that this seems to happen a lot, which it does. There's more than one post subtly throwing the blame game and disappointment Panthers' way. What Pidge said was correct, no problem with that but then others add to it and then suggest, subtly, that we're no good at holding down our own players etc.. Everytime a big name leaves us, everytime.That's because this happens regularly at Nottingham and doesn't appear to happen regularly anywhere else..No surprise it feels a lot because people mention it everytime and those everytimes all add up. Just another reason imho Panthers management aren't delivering for their fans but hey bored stating the obvious and it would appear you amongst others are bored reading it so essentially stopped posting these views instead will talk with my feet and have done for a few seasons now. As an example steelers press releases are all about winning league titles and making it three in a row, be great if panthers could win it twice in a half century...
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Post by Bagheera on Aug 12, 2016 15:07:25 GMT
Kolnik in to replace Jansen. Lepine type fighting Dman.
Oh, and yeah, Gutted.
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Post by PantherB on Aug 12, 2016 15:07:58 GMT
Gutted. Can't see anyone replacating the way inwhich he induced fear into opponents, his huge hits and ability to be quite level headed most of the time. Very disappointed to see so many moaning about Panthers and how this 'always happens' as if Panthers have done nothing but pack their bags and drive them to the airport themselves. He's got a very good opportunity within the organisation of his hometown NHL Team, working with people he knows very well and no doubt earning somewhat more, whilst reporting on the St. Louis games, talking to their players and getting fully involved with the team again. Brock Wilson also works for the Blues, perhaps he had a helping hand in Cam getting the job, but one thing for sure is that the fact he gets to be around his lifelong friends and family too will have also been a big factor. Can you blame him? No. Can you blame Panthers? No. This is just a very unfortunate thing for Panthers which was very much out of their hands, same with Mosey's departure. You try to hold back a player from bigger and better things back in their home country, your reputation will be tarnished and everyone knows that the league is used as a stepping stone towards bigger things more often than not. There's plenty of tough guys out there without jobs, a personally can't see us getting anyone as effective or as good a human being as Cam but we have plenty of options. The thing is it happens to panthers and awful lot, at least twice last year, three times this year and seemingly at least one player backs out of panthers every year. If panthers know a player is looking at other options state it when you sign them. Cam and Mosey wouldn't of signed with out telling them that they are looking at other options. I am not saying there is much they can do about it, but be honest with the fans. I doubt very much that this came out of the blue and cam just announced to them today that he would not be returning. Cam's news probably came quite out of the blue over the last week or so, it's still deep into the Offseason in North America so changes on the non playing side are still in full swing, Corey's got a few guys on his list which would suggest Cam had informed them of the offer and wouldn't decide until a set date or something, so Corey got a shortlist together. As for Mosey, that was very much out of the blue. You can't expect a guy so down to earth with such a patchy playing career to expect offers from the AHL. It shocked him probably more than it shocked us.
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Post by PantherB on Aug 12, 2016 15:13:25 GMT
There's more than one post subtly throwing the blame game and disappointment Panthers' way. What Pidge said was correct, no problem with that but then others add to it and then suggest, subtly, that we're no good at holding down our own players etc.. Everytime a big name leaves us, everytime. I think you're reading what you want to read. All I see is a lot of disappointment about losing a popular guy who played his role brilliantly, I doubt anyone is expecting Gary & Corey to be able to enforce a contract on him. No no, i just read posts on the first page! Nearly all are as you'd expect, the sadness and devestation with hope of finding someone who can fill his boots. But i counted 4 other posts which have more negative intentions, beyond the loss of Cam, and directed at Panthers. Usage of the word 'typical Panthers' and the mention of Management & Neilson, their records with player departures, quite a few times too, why would you bring Corey into it if you weren't looking to throw some blame somewhere? You wouldn't.
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Post by wagstaff on Aug 12, 2016 15:19:01 GMT
Although he would have been wearing the shirt of your team and not mine, I am disappointed to see a really enjoyable player to watch disappear from the league, made a good team great last year!
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Post by Yotes on Aug 12, 2016 15:20:04 GMT
I think if you're reading this: I was thinking that, pretty much every off season in the CN era I'd say? as blaming Neilson, you're being a little over-sensitive tbh. No one has used the phrase "typical Panthers" anywhere.
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Post by dill1015 on Aug 12, 2016 15:24:25 GMT
Oh sh.... bother! Well this is a blow. Why does this always seem to happen to Panthers.
I see 3 options.
1/ Panthers knew this was coming, Kolnik is on the cards and the last d man will be big and tough.
2/ Panthers knew this was coming and adds some fuel to the rumor of Bordeleau coming to the uk.
3/ Panthers have been caught out and are now scrambling to get a replacment.
Either way i dont see a like for like replacment coming in.
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Post by texpef on Aug 12, 2016 15:25:35 GMT
The thing is it happens to panthers and awful lot, at least twice last year, three times this year and seemingly at least one player backs out of panthers every year. If panthers know a player is looking at other options state it when you sign them. Cam and Mosey wouldn't of signed with out telling them that they are looking at other options. I am not saying there is much they can do about it, but be honest with the fans. I doubt very much that this came out of the blue and cam just announced to them today that he would not be returning. Cam's news probably came quite out of the blue over the last week or so, it's still deep into the Offseason in North America so changes on the non playing side are still in full swing, Corey's got a few guys on his list which would suggest Cam had informed them of the offer and wouldn't decide until a set date or something, so Corey got a shortlist together. As for Mosey, that was very much out of the blue. You can't expect a guy so down to earth with such a patchy playing career to expect offers from the AHL. It shocked him probably more than it shocked us. These excuses EVERYTIME is so wearing especially if you actually believe them, Mosey had an outstanding season last year and it has been building there is no surprise he has had a call up to a better league, heres hoping for his sake he makes a good impression but hundreds if not thousands of hockey players go through the mill and only a very small proportion make it to these higher leagues. As for Cam you don't just get a job offer no one does IF someone is headhunted they must have expressed an interest therefore Cam would have known it was a possibility and if he is the person people think he is then he would have informed panthers about this so they knew... Another example of being used as wallets who don't need to know till they have spent their hard earned, a view I believe more and more and after watching for 30+ years with what is it now 16 of them in the NIC with allegedly money to keep up with the jonses. So why have we not kept up with the joneses, I believe its because the club with the management and ownership as is spend just what they need to to be competitive rather than league winners and given the money that is generated in Nottingham this imho is just using the good will and support from the fans. I most likely will attend some games this season, however, as I think of myself as a long time fan its hard not to think if the team aren't at full strength then the club clearly aren't doing everything they could to win the league title so am feeling more and more why then should they deserve my support. Starting the season imports short (let alone carry spares) and/or sign quality British players from around the league for a club generating the cash that Nottingham do is plainly short changing the fans.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2016 15:30:30 GMT
for fudges sake.... Gutted. Loved this bloke to bits.
No Cam, no Mosey, no Myers..... Massive Horse.
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Post by Mark Mac on Aug 12, 2016 15:35:58 GMT
Big disappointment but no-one can be blamed. Just one of those things. It does feel like it happens every year to the Panthers especially, but then fans of every team probably feel that.
We won't get a like-for-like replacement. I think Cam was a unique package. I can't see us finding another player willing to come here with the same set of qualities. He is a hard-hitting, intense team player who provided a lot of entertainment to the fans, however he wasn't especially skillful with the puck. We could, potentially, get a player that is as beneficial as Cam. He would've had a sizeable salary. It depends if Corey wants a tough guy or a skill guy. That depends on what our final Dman is like.
Fingers crossed!!
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Post by cjmatt42 on Aug 12, 2016 15:38:28 GMT
Oh dear! Based our recruitment on building around last years team and now we've kept all the average elements of that team and lost the key cogs! Feeling happier by the day to be an ex season ticket holder!
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Post by Bagheera on Aug 12, 2016 15:55:40 GMT
Well. This is actually how we ended up with Cam in the first place IIRC. We had Eric Lizon signed up and it wasn't until he backed out we ended up with Cam.
You never know. We may just unearth another Gem. Unfortunaitly as others have said I think it's nigh on impossible to replace Cam like for like at this level. Just have to hope lightening can strike twice.
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Post by iginla on Aug 12, 2016 15:56:33 GMT
Well the quality of that last Dman should have just gone up a shed load,because Panthers can have absolutely NO excuse for not having a large wad of cash left to spend now. Cams,Schmidts and Myers wages all saved at the moment,to get a lesser enforcer and a Dman..........what's the betting !
I don't buy for one minute that this just happened though,they have waited until tickets were sold,typical bloody Panthers. One day,people will wake up and realise just how much wee wee Panthers take from their fans !!!
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Post by Yotes on Aug 12, 2016 16:04:18 GMT
I don't buy for one minute that this just happened though,they have waited until tickets were sold,typical bloody Panthers. One day,people will wake up and realise just how much wee wee Panthers take from their fans !!! For what, the Aladdin Cup?! Maybe they knew of the possibility but hoped it wouldn't happen, but it has.
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Mark
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Post by Mark on Aug 12, 2016 16:11:15 GMT
Gutted, ruined my day. This seems to happen every season to the Panthers. The club must be jinxed. It's been a low key close season and this has just put the tin lid on it.
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Post by iginla on Aug 12, 2016 16:15:53 GMT
I don't buy for one minute that this just happened though,they have waited until tickets were sold,typical bloody Panthers. One day,people will wake up and realise just how much wee wee Panthers take from their fans !!! For what, the Aladdin Cup?! Maybe they knew of the possibility but hoped it wouldn't happen, but it has. To Panthers it's a ticket. They don't give a crap what game it is or who it's against......its ££££s Sheffield and Cardiff have their teams here now. What have we got....three imports and the Brits ! Pre season is supposed to be about gelling and forming partnerships. That's not much good if they only pitch up together on the day of the first big game is it !
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