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Post by EMB on Nov 11, 2015 17:06:53 GMT
David Ling (Nottingham Panthers)
The Elite League Department of Player Safety has suspended Nottingham Panthers forward David Ling for one game. Ling was assessed a match penalty for kneeing in the second period of his side’s game with Belfast Giants on Saturday 7th November 2015. This incident has now been reviewed by DOPS and penalty has been changed to a match penalty for slashing, which carries an automatic one-match suspension. Ling will miss Panthers’ game with Coventry Blaze on Saturday 14th November 2015
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Post by Ghost on Nov 11, 2015 17:11:58 GMT
David Ling (Nottingham Panthers) The Elite League Department of Player Safety has suspended Nottingham Panthers forward David Ling for one game. Ling was assessed a match penalty for kneeing in the second period of his side’s game with Belfast Giants on Saturday 7th November 2015. This incident has now been reviewed by DOPS and penalty has been changed to a match penalty for slashing, which carries an automatic one-match suspension. Ling will miss Panthers’ game with Coventry Blaze on Saturday 14th November 2015 Slashing??
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Post by ted logan on Nov 11, 2015 17:19:53 GMT
Do they just make this stuff up as they go along?
Don't get me wrong, I'm amazed and delighted that DL isn't banned for the Steelers game. But to get thrown out for kneeing and have that changed to slashing on review is farcical.
Either proves that it was a crap call or is now a crap call. Or both.
Lloyd, as usual, gets nothing.
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Post by Dan on Nov 11, 2015 17:22:11 GMT
Odd, he doesn't seem to slash him at all...?
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Post by thebestpanthers on Nov 11, 2015 17:24:17 GMT
Glad that the penalty has been changed - but a "Match" penalty for "slashing" - little bit severe - just goes to show how wrong Darnell was, and could quite easily have cost us the game - he is back for the Steelers game unless they complain that the punishment is too lenient. Any idea if Lloyd got any penalties??? (wishful thinking)
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Post by acsmyth on Nov 11, 2015 17:23:53 GMT
Do they just make this stuff up as they go along? Don't get me wrong, I'm amazed and delighted that DL isn't banned for the Steelers game. But to get thrown out for kneeing and have that changed to slashing on review is farcical. Either proves that it was a crap call or is now a crap call. Or both. Lloyd, as usual, gets nothing. Why would Lloyd get something?
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Post by Yotes on Nov 11, 2015 17:27:42 GMT
Because we asked for a review.
I thought it was a knee before, and still think it's a knee now watching it again, and 1 game seems fair for that. But changing it to slashing is odd, I can see the movement of his stick but Lloyd clearly reacts later than that. Perhaps they dug out SteelerVision to clean up the image like the good old days?
Where's the video explanation?
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Post by acsmyth on Nov 11, 2015 17:29:43 GMT
Because we asked for a review. I thought it was a knee before, and still think it's a knee now watching it again, and 1 game seems fair for that. But changing it to slashing is odd, I can see the movement of his stick but Lloyd clearly reacts later than that. Perhaps they dug out SteelerVision to clean up the image like the good old days? Where's the video explanation? Yes a review of what? Has anyone seen what the Panthers asked to be reviewed? Apparently it was originally a holding call. I'm just baffled how someone can say "Lloyd gets nothing" without knowing what was being reviewed or having seen the evidence provided.
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Post by thebestpanthers on Nov 11, 2015 17:33:14 GMT
Because we asked for a review. I thought it was a knee before, and still think it's a knee now watching it again, and 1 game seems fair for that. But changing it to slashing is odd, I can see the movement of his stick but Lloyd clearly reacts later than that. Perhaps they dug out SteelerVision to clean up the image like the good old days? Where's the video explanation?[/quote] You will need to ask the new Elite League media guru
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Post by claretgiant on Nov 11, 2015 17:33:19 GMT
Because we asked for a review. I thought it was a knee before, and still think it's a knee now watching it again, and 1 game seems fair for that. But changing it to slashing is odd, I can see the movement of his stick but Lloyd clearly reacts later than that. Perhaps they dug out SteelerVision to clean up the image like the good old days? Where's the video explanation? Have to agree very strange decision indeed to change the call to slashing .....Video explanation is going to make interesting viewing
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Post by Peacock on Nov 11, 2015 17:38:54 GMT
Where's the video explanation? They usually post them later on Weds or early Thurs.
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Post by ted logan on Nov 11, 2015 17:51:28 GMT
Because we asked for a review. I thought it was a knee before, and still think it's a knee now watching it again, and 1 game seems fair for that. But changing it to slashing is odd, I can see the movement of his stick but Lloyd clearly reacts later than that. Perhaps they dug out SteelerVision to clean up the image like the good old days? Where's the video explanation? Yes a review of what? Has anyone seen what the Panthers asked to be reviewed? Apparently it was originally a holding call. I'm just baffled how someone can say "Lloyd gets nothing" without knowing what was being reviewed or having seen the evidence provided. Lloyd did get nothing. Its in the DOPS report. Try and keep up.
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Post by Ghost on Nov 11, 2015 17:53:38 GMT
Yes a review of what? Has anyone seen what the Panthers asked to be reviewed? Apparently it was originally a holding call. I'm just baffled how someone can say "Lloyd gets nothing" without knowing what was being reviewed or having seen the evidence provided. Lloyd did get nothing. Its in the DOPS report. Try and keep up. Panthers requested a review on what they thought was Lloyd slew-footing.
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Post by iginla on Nov 11, 2015 18:18:44 GMT
Oh dear me.....slashing ! That's like being tried for bank robbery and being cleared,then being found guilty of speeding instead.
I would love to see that thinking stand up in court.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2015 18:23:41 GMT
Just watched the video. It is a two handed slash
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Post by shmyrohdear on Nov 11, 2015 18:29:54 GMT
That's fair, can't complain at him only missing one game don't feel it's worthy of anything more. Back for the Steelers game, back to work as normal.
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Post by dp on Nov 11, 2015 18:33:17 GMT
Well it's fair to say that regardless of which team you support, or whether you feel he should have been banned or not, nobody would say that was slashing! There's no slashing motion at all - he's just holding his stick!
The DOPS just gets worse and is making a joke of the league (although the ever increasing Sheffield connections in the league hierarchy are doing a very good job of that anyway. Oh Simms allowed to tweet during the match night curfews? Surely not a club official then. Oh but he goes to the Elite League board meetings which are only for club officials??).
Still waiting on the video of the suspension from last season - was it Cohen? - which was promised by the new Elite League media man (and voice of DOPS....oh and Steelers commentator and long time fan).
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Post by iginla on Nov 11, 2015 18:49:32 GMT
That's a very weak slashing call. He doesn't swing his stick,if anything it's a low aimed cross check.
It just smacks of somebody out to get Ling for whatever they possibly can and be lenient on Lloyd for his recent slew footing suspension when subsequent video from the Giants showed it was the wrong call.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2015 18:58:49 GMT
If that's a slashing ban then teams are going to be missing players every weekend from now on (well if DOPS was consistent which we know it isnt), you see way worse than that behind the play or at faceoffs.
I still think it should've been downgraded to 2+10 for kneeing with no further punishment. But I guess the league had to somewhat justify Darnell calling a match penalty because he is their posterboy official (which he knows and does nothing for his already tremendous ego).
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2015 19:10:28 GMT
If that's a slashing ban then teams are going to be missing players every weekend from now on (well if DOPS was consistent which we know it isnt), you see way worse than that behind the play or at faceoffs. I still think it should've been downgraded to 2+10 for kneeing with no further punishment. But I guess the league had to somewhat justify Darnell calling a match penalty because he is their posterboy official (which he knows and does nothing for his already tremendous ego). Hate to agree with you because it's much more fun to argue but you're spot on with this. I said at the time it was either a knee or a good check..... The slashing call is purely to back up Darnell's MP call & a bit of a joke. Still amazed he have him for the Steelers match though so shouldn't complain.
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Post by acsmyth on Nov 11, 2015 19:16:43 GMT
Yes a review of what? Has anyone seen what the Panthers asked to be reviewed? Apparently it was originally a holding call. I'm just baffled how someone can say "Lloyd gets nothing" without knowing what was being reviewed or having seen the evidence provided. Lloyd did get nothing. Its in the DOPS report. Try and keep up. "Lloyd gets nothing as usual" clearly infers that he should get something... Why would he get something is the question I'm asking? What would they ban him for? Holding!? Do keep up.
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Post by Ghost on Nov 11, 2015 19:17:46 GMT
Lloyd did get nothing. Its in the DOPS report. Try and keep up. By your post, you clearly think he should get something... Why would he get something is the question I'm asking? What would they ban him for? Holding!? Do keep up. Slew footing!
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Post by Mark on Nov 11, 2015 19:18:58 GMT
Have they changed the penalty to slashing because kneeing is only a match penalty if the player is injured.? Conman Lloyd obviously wasn't injured because he continued to take regular shifts. Do we actually know who runs DOPS, and if not why? The whole thing is wide open to criticism of cronyism,bias and favouritism with no accountability whilst decisions are made in apparent secrecy by persons unknown.
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Post by acsmyth on Nov 11, 2015 19:21:36 GMT
Have they changed the penalty to slashing because kneeing is only a match penalty if the player is injured.? Conman Lloyd obviously wasn't injured because he continued to take regular shifts. Do we actually know who runs DOPS, and if not why? The whole thing is wide open to criticism of cronyism,bias and favouritism with no accountability whilst decisions are made in apparent secrecy by persons unknown. DOPS is run by Simon Kirkham I think. We aren't allowed to know who makes the decisions though, it's all super secret!
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Post by Yotes on Nov 11, 2015 19:26:13 GMT
It would be good if, for the turned down appeal, we got the video of that too, and why they agreed with Tom's call on it.
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