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Post by nate24 on Nov 1, 2015 12:16:54 GMT
Overall I like him but he does vanish from time to time and looks lazy. His fitness looks fine it looks to me like his motivation.
I can't help but feel he's peaked early. He doesn't seemed to have improved for quite some time.
The only way I can see him moving forward is by attempting to play in a stronger league.
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Nov 1, 2015 12:21:17 GMT
Overall I like him but he does vanish from time to time and looks lazy. His fitness looks fine it looks to me like his motivation. I can't help but feel he's peaked early. He doesn't seemed to have improved for quite some time. The only way I can see him moving forward is by attempting to play in a stronger league. I think CN said last season that he went off the boil and with the right players around him he played better under pressure and this was the year that he had to step it up.
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Post by Shorty on Nov 1, 2015 12:30:00 GMT
Whilst he has not hit top form this season, and is having mixed games I think he is a valuable player. His ability to take the puck off the opposition is a key strength hence his good work on penalty kills.
I think he is being singled out for criticism because someone said he was being paid a lot, and that was why we were not bringing in our final import.
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Post by Kovalchuk17 on Nov 1, 2015 12:39:22 GMT
Last night was his worst game by far, but I'm starting to losing count of how many poor or indifferent performances he puts in now.
If he's carrying an injury then rest him (we wouldn't have been worse off) or if his motivation has gone, then he needs to be cut. Certainly as soon as Farmer returns, Lacho isn't deserving of regular ice time IMO.
It's a great shame as he is magical... But those magical moments have dwindled from one every game to hardly one every month.
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Post by nate24 on Nov 1, 2015 12:41:20 GMT
Whilst he has not hit top form this season, and is having mixed games I think he is a valuable player. His ability to take the puck off the opposition is a key strength hence his good work on penalty kills. I think he is being singled out for criticism because someone said he was being paid a lot, and that was why we were not bringing in our final import. The only way I could seeing him need a lot of money was if he was going to leave. Based on last year I don't think he made the 'shop window' very well. I don't listen to all the stuff people say about players wages. Some people seem to have the inside scoop on the Panthers accounts but unless they back it up it is just irrelevant. He does have the talent, it his consistency that is so frustrating.
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Post by panthers4ever on Nov 1, 2015 12:45:54 GMT
I have to agree I like lacho but I think it's time for him to go too lazy just don't look at all interested
Get rid he is really peeing me off at the moment
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Post by iginla on Nov 1, 2015 12:51:08 GMT
Basically,Lacho is the Brit version of Chris Lawrence.
Capable of magic,but doesn't produce anywhere near often enough,doesn't hit,doesn't work hard enough,won't go in a corner except at arms length,looks disinterested half the time and as for any rough stuff,forget it.
Other than that,he's quite good,or used to be when he could be bothered....if he was an import,he wouldn't be here this year based on the last two seasons !
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2015 13:02:36 GMT
The colour of his passport has kept him in a job for a few years now !
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Nov 1, 2015 13:02:52 GMT
Whilst he has not hit top form this season, and is having mixed games I think he is a valuable player. His ability to take the puck off the opposition is a key strength hence his good work on penalty kills. I think he is being singled out for criticism because someone said he was being paid a lot, and that was why we were not bringing in our final import. The only way I could seeing him need a lot of money was if he was going to leave. Based on last year I don't think he made the 'shop window' very well. I don't listen to all the stuff people say about players wages. Some people seem to have the inside scoop on the Panthers accounts but unless they back it up it is just irrelevant. He does have the talent, it his consistency that is so frustrating. You can put his wages down to GM the GM this time at the time he was signed late in the summer as he made a big point on it.
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Nov 1, 2015 13:03:49 GMT
The colour of his passport has kept him in a job for a few years now ! For far too many players unfortunately.
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Post by nate24 on Nov 1, 2015 13:12:12 GMT
Jason Hewitt is a classic case of passport led job security.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2015 13:13:15 GMT
Frustratingly inconsistent. Has some real dumb moments on the ice & scares me in possession. Desperately needed a change of club in the Summer.
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Post by Kovalchuk17 on Nov 1, 2015 13:18:04 GMT
Not even the colour of his passport... For some reason Betteridge is losing shifts recently after a great start.
If you could choose one to ice and ask to get in a scoring position, lay a playmaking pass, carry possession or throw a defensive hit... Betteridge or Lacho?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2015 13:27:18 GMT
Ollie I think due to his size has greater potential now
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Post by pman on Nov 1, 2015 13:29:29 GMT
Pretty harsh comments I see about Lacho here. I agree with him looking lazy, although that's always been his style of play since way back, more effortless In my opinion. People who are say it's ridiculous how much certain players earn and in this case Lacho, could you please enlighten me on how much you know he is getting paid? Because I would love to know. I think it's pretty harsh to jump on someone so early on in the season who is actually the top Brit forward point scorer in the team at the moment. And has helped and delivered numerous trophies during his time at panthers, which you all seem to be forgetting. www.eliteprospects.com/league.php?leagueid=EIHL&season=15How did he get injured the other week? Oh wait blocking a shot, yeah that means he's not putting effort in for the team.
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Post by shmyrohdear on Nov 1, 2015 13:33:21 GMT
If you think he had a bad game last night then you really need to watch for the situations he is in on the ice. I lost count of how many times he had the puck in neutral zone or down low and had no support what so ever. He used his speed a lot more and got into a lot more than I've seen this season, last night for me showed a bit more of a spark and if he can carry that into next weekend then i think we'll see him pick up momentum. Just because he isn't putting points up doesn't mean he's not doing the little things right at the back end. In all honesty I think people are being a bit harsh when others on this team are just as liable for making simple mistakes.
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Nov 1, 2015 13:45:03 GMT
Pretty harsh comments I see about Lacho here. I agree with him looking lazy, although that's always been his style of play since way back, more effortless In my opinion. People who are say it's ridiculous how much certain players earn and in this case Lacho, could you please enlighten me on how much you know he is getting paid? Because I would love to know. I think it's pretty harsh to jump on someone so early on in the season who is actually the top Brit forward point scorer in the team at the moment. And has helped and delivered numerous trophies during his time at panthers, which you all seem to be forgetting. www.eliteprospects.com/league.php?leagueid=EIHL&season=15How did he get injured the other week? Oh wait blocking a shot, yeah that means he's not putting effort in for the team. If you have been watching him since his first game to date you will have seen the drop off. Even CN said he had a problem with loss of form last year and I think most would want to see that form return rather than give him less ice time.
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Post by pman on Nov 1, 2015 13:46:53 GMT
Pretty harsh comments I see about Lacho here. I agree with him looking lazy, although that's always been his style of play since way back, more effortless In my opinion. People who are say it's ridiculous how much certain players earn and in this case Lacho, could you please enlighten me on how much you know he is getting paid? Because I would love to know. I think it's pretty harsh to jump on someone so early on in the season who is actually the top Brit forward point scorer in the team at the moment. And has helped and delivered numerous trophies during his time at panthers, which you all seem to be forgetting. www.eliteprospects.com/league.php?leagueid=EIHL&season=15How did he get injured the other week? Oh wait blocking a shot, yeah that means he's not putting effort in for the team. If you have been watching him since his first game to date you will have seen the drop off. Even CN said he had a problem with loss of form last year and I think most would want to see that form return rather than give him less ice time. No one had a good season last season, I agree he will come back to form
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Nov 1, 2015 13:47:47 GMT
If you think he had a bad game last night then you really need to watch for the situations he is in on the ice. I lost count of how many times he had the puck in neutral zone or down low and had no support what so ever. He used his speed a lot more and got into a lot more than I've seen this season, last night for me showed a bit more of a spark and if he can carry that into next weekend then i think we'll see him pick up momentum. Just because he isn't putting points up doesn't mean he's not doing the little things right at the back end. In all honesty I think people are being a bit harsh when others on this team are just as liable for making simple mistakes. I lost count of how many times he gave the puck away or was turned over. Lack of support means holding for a moment or being good enough to make a % longer pass not giving it away in your own blue zone.
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Post by pman on Nov 1, 2015 13:48:10 GMT
If you think he had a bad game last night then you really need to watch for the situations he is in on the ice. I lost count of how many times he had the puck in neutral zone or down low and had no support what so ever. He used his speed a lot more and got into a lot more than I've seen this season, last night for me showed a bit more of a spark and if he can carry that into next weekend then i think we'll see him pick up momentum. Just because he isn't putting points up doesn't mean he's not doing the little things right at the back end. In all honesty I think people are being a bit harsh when others on this team are just as liable for making simple mistakes. (Y) finally someone with a hockey brain
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Post by nate24 on Nov 1, 2015 13:56:41 GMT
The question is more aimed at his developemt rather than individual performance.
He is too sheltered here in my opinion.
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Post by thebestpanthers on Nov 1, 2015 14:00:21 GMT
Reputations do not win matches or silverware - We are supposed to have the best Brit pack in the league, and other teams are envious of us - however at the moment there are three of them who are not living up to expectations Swindlehurst, Lee & Lacho. As this thread is about Lacho then I will restrict my comments to him. As someone said, this season he is like a British version if Chris Lawrence - he just does not seem interested most of the time, and gives up the puck far too easily - the whole team seem to have a "dump and chase" mentality that does not work and Lacho does it more than most. He still has moments of magic that shows it is still there, but those are few and far between (bit like Clarkie)- he seems afraid to go into checks in case he gets hurt - as others have said he looks like he does not really want to be there and that is not acceptable - hopefully Cory can sort him out, but at the moment I think he needs a shape kick up the you know what - he needs to use his time here to display his talents, not as a holding tank - very disappointed, as I was last year (but that went for most of the team last year) - stand out Brit is Farmer and he is being seriously missed
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Post by shmyrohdear on Nov 1, 2015 14:17:06 GMT
You're mistaking give aways to dumping out of the zone, if anyone was a turnover machine last night it was Dimmen or Lee. If you counted how many times Lacho stole the puck in our zone and created breakout plays you'd realise how one sided the negative mindset is by most of you in this forum. You all seem to be jumping on his back for lack offensive production but he's always been very good in his own end of the ice. Very good stick lifts and very good at pressuring the puck carrier hell there were numerous times he forced them behind their own net from the neutral zone and chased them down all the way back up the ice. Last night he was a lot better than previous games. More good than bad, yes there were a few giveaways but I'm more concerned at the amount of times Dimmen and Lee gave the puck away that both blue lines that created two on one situations.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2015 14:20:59 GMT
If you think he had a bad game last night then you really need to watch for the situations he is in on the ice. I lost count of how many times he had the puck in neutral zone or down low and had no support what so ever. He used his speed a lot more and got into a lot more than I've seen this season, last night for me showed a bit more of a spark and if he can carry that into next weekend then i think we'll see him pick up momentum. Just because he isn't putting points up doesn't mean he's not doing the little things right at the back end. In all honesty I think people are being a bit harsh when others on this team are just as liable for making simple mistakes. (Y) finally someone with a hockey brain The minority speaks..... lol.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2015 14:33:16 GMT
Pretty harsh comments I see about Lacho here. I agree with him looking lazy, although that's always been his style of play since way back, more effortless In my opinion. People who are say it's ridiculous how much certain players earn and in this case Lacho, could you please enlighten me on how much you know he is getting paid? Because I would love to know. I think it's pretty harsh to jump on someone so early on in the season who is actually the top Brit forward point scorer in the team at the moment. And has helped and delivered numerous trophies during his time at panthers, which you all seem to be forgetting. www.eliteprospects.com/league.php?leagueid=EIHL&season=15How did he get injured the other week? Oh wait blocking a shot, yeah that means he's not putting effort in for the team. Has has less goals than Bryan Schmidt this season... And we're a quarter of the way through. I don't want us to hang on to Brits because they HAVE been good. That's what Sheffield do and that's why they'll struggle in a couple of years when Phillips, Hewitt etc retire.
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