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Post by Shorty on Feb 18, 2014 23:24:40 GMT
I like the phrase that Gary Moran uses in his interview with K-Wall, when talking about a couple of our players who are still carrying injuries - stating that they would not play in a "non-descript league game". Pretty much confirms how the remainder of the season will go in terms of preparing for the big games, and resting players/playing with less intensity in the league.
Personally, I don't have a problem with that, but I am sure some will!
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Post by Yotes on Feb 18, 2014 23:31:15 GMT
Jacina goal very similar to the Ryan goal. Straight out of the penalty box. Gets the puck. Goal Boom That one summed up the Yorks, Langlais (I think, maybe Baldwin, 2 or 3) waving Doyle out to it as it holds up on the blue line. Juice did the rest nicely in fairness to him. I've seen some dodgy defending at the NIC over the years but that took the whole tin of biscuits.
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Post by jdizpt8 on Feb 18, 2014 23:34:29 GMT
I like the phrase that Gary Moran uses in his interview with K-Wall, when talking about a couple of our players who are still carrying injuries - stating that they would not play in a "non-descript league game". Pretty much confirms how the remainder of the season will go in terms of preparing for the big games, and resting players/playing with less intensity in the league. Personally, I don't have a problem with that, but I am sure some will! Rest them up and look at the league to try and get the most favourable quarter final draw for the play offs, need to try and play smart safe hockey
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Post by Yotes on Feb 18, 2014 23:34:37 GMT
I like the phrase that Gary Moran uses in his interview with K-Wall, when talking about a couple of our players who are still carrying injuries - stating that they would not play in a "non-descript league game". Pretty much confirms how the remainder of the season will go in terms of preparing for the big games, and resting players/playing with less intensity in the league. Personally, I don't have a problem with that, but I am sure some will! Have you already paid for your tickets Shorty? Besides which, why risk them in a non-descript cup game tonight?
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Post by hitchy on Feb 18, 2014 23:38:09 GMT
Well, I've had better nights....
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Post by Shorty on Feb 18, 2014 23:41:07 GMT
Have you already paid for your tickets Shorty? Besides which, why risk them in a non-descript cup game tonight? The only tickets I have, between now and the end of the season, are for the playoff semi finals and final. Not having a season ticket allows me to choose the games I want to attend. If we get the same Steelers team in the playoffs, that may also be non-descript! Boy, do they have problems.
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Post by pman on Feb 18, 2014 23:50:56 GMT
Ahah ridiculous, he has took coming up to the elite league very well from two personally successful seasons in the much tougher EPL! So as you wasn't there tonight you didn't see him be mature and come on the ice when not been played for 30mins yes be slow but what do you expect? But then got to pace really quick and bagged a goal. Well I don't know because I wasn't there was I!! As mentioned previously he gets frequently benched for a reason. No doubt he'll make a good player but currently he's a 7th Dman. Yes on times he is out muscled but his positioning is more often than not spot on! Too many fans just want to see a big hitting d man or a d man that can take the body, he will make it into a good d man and will be one of the top British D men in the league with time IMO.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2014 23:50:56 GMT
Wasn't there tonight but on the Norton topic he has looked horribly out of his depth at times this season. Ahah ridiculous, he has took coming up to the elite league very well from two personally successful seasons in the much tougher EPL! So as you wasn't there tonight you didn't see him be mature and come on the ice when not been played for 30mins yes be slow but what do you expect? But then got to pace really quick and bagged a goal. The much tougher EPL?
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Post by pman on Feb 18, 2014 23:53:02 GMT
Ahah ridiculous, he has took coming up to the elite league very well from two personally successful seasons in the much tougher EPL! So as you wasn't there tonight you didn't see him be mature and come on the ice when not been played for 30mins yes be slow but what do you expect? But then got to pace really quick and bagged a goal. The much tougher EPL? Physically tougher, if you have ever supported a team in the EPL and been to games you would understand, players far more physical especially with the vast number of small rinks
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Post by Caesar on Feb 18, 2014 23:58:22 GMT
I keep hearing that Sheffield are "terrible" "awful" and "in disarray". Steeltalk is no better, they are claiming they are the worst side in Steelers history. Have a glance at the league table, see where they are in relation to us. What does that say about our team?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2014 0:01:50 GMT
Well I don't know because I wasn't there was I!! As mentioned previously he gets frequently benched for a reason. No doubt he'll make a good player but currently he's a 7th Dman. Yes on times he is out muscled but his positioning is more often than not spot on! Too many fans just want to see a big hitting d man or a d man that can take the body, he will make it into a good d man and will be one of the top British D men in the league with time IMO. Norton has looked very good against teams in the other conference, against the likes of Sheffield & Belfast he has looked like a depth player. Now there is no doubt that he will become a good EIHL d man (maybe to a Mark Thomas level) but right now he is not the reincarnate of Angel Nikolov that you appear to be making him out to be. He is particularly guilty of pinching in at inopportune moments (what youngster isn't though) and gets caught flat footed occasionally, all a learning curve though. Like I said no doubt that he will come good but right now some games are a bit to much for him, it'll do his confidence more good being on the ice when we are 5-0 up and dominating rather than in a game we're in a close 2-2 game & we are under pressure, yes he will have to learn to play in situations like that & that will come in time. Fair play to him on nabbing a goal tonight to, first one at home this year to I believe? Although I'm far from convinced Farmer didn't touch it. Anyway onto tonight, that was satisfying. Shame they got back into it a little more when we took out foot off the gas at the end but hey ho as needs must & all that.
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Post by Yotes on Feb 19, 2014 0:01:56 GMT
Have you already paid for your tickets Shorty? Besides which, why risk them in a non-descript cup game tonight? The only tickets I have, between now and the end of the season, are for the playoff semi finals and final. Not having a season ticket allows me to choose the games I want to attend. If we get the same Steelers team in the playoffs, that may also be non-descript! Boy, do they have problems. Very wise. Being on board for the dead rubbers was the chance I took with the ST, I accept that, although having a fifth of the season being dead rubbers (more than that, in reality) is a bit annoying. Don't really need Gary rubbing it in My hopes are pinned on the cup final being a classic.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2014 0:07:50 GMT
Physically tougher, if you have ever supported a team in the EPL and been to games you would understand, players far more physical especially with the vast number of small rinks It's apples and oranges really then, in this league the physicality is dying out and you have to be equipped to deal with more skilled guys on a larger ice surface Different league different animal it would appear, the transition up won't be easy but Norton has dealt with it A LOT better than others (did Nell even get off the bench tonight?). As stated before he will become a good d man in this league but he's not there yet.
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Post by panthertom93 on Feb 19, 2014 1:15:04 GMT
Norton will be (I think) one of our top 2 Brit D-men alongside Lee after Weaver retires. Stick them two with 4 imports and I will be more than happy.
Jacina had one of his best games for us, my MoM.
Did Stef forget to announce Darnell as an assist on their 1st goal?
Matt Ryan took his goal well.
But my gosh that was THE worst ever steelers performance I can remember. Ryan Finnerty would be laughing his socks of at that. If he was still in charge they'd have at least played for pride more than anything else.
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Post by panthersnation on Feb 19, 2014 6:32:48 GMT
we always ends up under pressure when Norton is on the ice im afraid, the lines are balanced well with him and boxy as spare lacho franny salts famer ryan juice Clarke benny kalus Henley werner weaver lyons lee big o Seeing as we've been lacking firepower what sense does it make that we're playing a forward on the D when we do have norton sat on the bench being a stand out player for me this season. He went away put the work in at EPL sides came back and has worked hard all year for the team. His partnership with Henley has been solid and as a player he has done his job. The game is changing and we need to have the Brits icing when available. It's the only way to progress. And saying we're under pressure when he is on the ice is horse I'm affraid if our forwards tracked back our a would have to do so much. Norton is a good d man and plays well almost very shift, other players have put out worse performances all season, and with our injuries he has played pretty much every game and done a good job. That's my view. I see what you say but It was pointed out to me that he puts us under lot of pressure on us and still makes mistake, watch carefully and you'll see
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Post by bobness on Feb 19, 2014 8:40:00 GMT
Well if Norton makes mistakes on our D, it puts him in a field of 6 or 7. The rest of the D are hardly perfect are they?
Norton has improved enormously since he's come back. Not the finished article yet, but worthy of a top 6 place IMHO.
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Post by 5+game on Feb 19, 2014 8:49:50 GMT
I keep hearing that Sheffield are "terrible" "awful" and "in disarray". Steeltalk is no better, they are claiming they are the worst side in Steelers history. Have a glance at the league table, see where they are in relation to us. What does that say about our team? It say that we have played the majority of the season with a makeshift, patched up squad and when back to full strength we can demolish the steelers as we have in the last 3 games against them.
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Post by ted logan on Feb 19, 2014 9:57:40 GMT
Well if Norton makes mistakes on our D, it puts him in a field of 6 or 7. The rest of the D are hardly perfect are they? Norton has improved enormously since he's come back. Not the finished article yet, but worthy of a top 6 place IMHO. Pretty much sums it up really
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Post by jd on Feb 19, 2014 10:46:56 GMT
Still cant believe Jacina score that goal - steelers d was awful last night
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Post by panthers4ever on Feb 19, 2014 12:14:10 GMT
A lot better performance from panthers
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Post by Bruins33 on Feb 19, 2014 17:34:56 GMT
personally I think Norton has been great all year, progressing nicely! Simple but effective. Been laughing at you experts saying otherwise
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2014 18:12:27 GMT
personally I think Norton has been great all year, progressing nicely! Simple but effective. Been laughing at you experts saying otherwise Your as much of an 'expert' as the rest of us, never forget that before being so condescending towards others who simply have been a little bit critical but have said he will be a fine d man when developed and all is said and done. Also on Jacinas goal, I couldn't believe he got there before the Steelers D, that summed their whole attitude last night. They absolutely stunk up the joint.
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Post by Yotes on Feb 19, 2014 18:43:27 GMT
Must admit I didn't realise Norton was older (albeit only a bit) than Stevie Lee.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2014 18:46:50 GMT
Must admit I didn't realise Norton was older (albeit only a bit) than Stevie Lee. Stevie Lee is twice the player as well. He has a shot at Europe next season if interested imo.
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Post by Shaggy on Feb 19, 2014 21:16:45 GMT
Whilst the Steelers were certainly a poor team last night, I'm just wondering how much of that was down to a lack on their part and how much of it was down to our players shutting them down? I just wonder, especially looking at the current score at their 'nothing' league game tonight against Cardiff... Sheffield are leading 7-1 at the end of the second. Is that just a backlash against last night's result?
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