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Post by nytram89 on Jan 19, 2014 21:34:23 GMT
With all this debate about poor refereeing would be interesting to know who people holdin the highest regard in this league.
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Post by joesteeler on Jan 19, 2014 21:38:20 GMT
Darnell
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Post by texpef on Jan 19, 2014 21:40:34 GMT
If last night was anything to go by Darnell is one of the worst...
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Post by jono222 on Jan 19, 2014 21:43:30 GMT
For me, I've been very impressed with O'Hallran. Thought he did well in the two games we had him. For me Darnell is our new Carson, not impressed at all with him.
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Post by Shorty on Jan 19, 2014 21:46:31 GMT
I'm going to have to have a think about that......
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Post by nytram89 on Jan 19, 2014 22:02:38 GMT
For me, I've been very impressed with O'Hallran. Thought he did well in the two games we had him. For me Darnell is our new Carson, not impressed at all with him. Thats a good shout not done too much wrong! Im trying to remember if theres been any decent refs at all since ive been watching british ice hockey. Hated carson and boniface lol
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Post by ted logan on Jan 19, 2014 22:06:37 GMT
If laat night was anything to go by Darnell is one of the worst... This. Got worse as the game went on. Had a good first period where he went virtually unnoticed. That will never do for Hollywood Tom. I quite like O'Halloran. Lets the game flow and seems to have no desire to be the star of the show.
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Post by kezypanther on Jan 19, 2014 22:13:45 GMT
The power has gone to Darnell's head
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Post by ggggranville on Jan 19, 2014 22:17:13 GMT
If laat night was anything to go by Darnell is one of the worst... He was even worse on Thursday in Cardiff!!
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Post by iginla on Jan 19, 2014 22:19:57 GMT
Based on this season......Kieran O'halloran or Dean Smith.
Darnell......no chance,he is so far up his own backside,when he skates out he always then takes his helmet off and skates round twice seemingly saying look at me,I'm the ref Tom Darnell so get a good look at me,then puts it on again !
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Post by tootootrain on Jan 19, 2014 22:22:44 GMT
I think they're all pretty poor to be honest but for different reasons.
For some its their sheer inconsistency, for others it is constant poor positioning that leads to them missing blatant offences and for yet more it is the fact they seem to want to be centre of attention (the aforementioned Hollywood Tom step forward).
I'm not sure what the solution is.
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Post by wagstaff on Jan 19, 2014 22:31:22 GMT
I don't think any ref deserves the title of best, ask who is the worst and there is an accolade that could be deserved.
Anyway aren't we all the best refs, we always get the calls right, unlike the 3 in the stripes!
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Post by panthertom93 on Jan 19, 2014 22:34:14 GMT
Thing is, it's the same in any sport. Every fan thinks they're a ref. We don't see the game from ice level.
Take football for instance, Howard Webb - has a reputation for giving decisions to Man Utd. He'll get booed for decision on a regular basis. But yet he was chosen to referee the last World Cup final. Clearly can't be that bad. And in that i remember he was applauded for controlling a heated match. On a deferent day it's a different situation.
Nobody is gonna get every decision right. If they did, there'd be less talking points.
For what it's worth, Darnell is my favourite. However I feel as though it's the same refs all the time and maybe more need to be introduce into our league.
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Post by nytram89 on Jan 19, 2014 22:36:15 GMT
2 referee system would maybe improve decision making and get the perspective/opinion of 2 refs rather than 1. Would decrease the amount of incidents that are sometimes missed. But as always this comes down to money and availability of referees.
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Post by pantherdman on Jan 19, 2014 23:07:54 GMT
Errrrrrrrrr? Pass?
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Post by pantherdman on Jan 19, 2014 23:20:29 GMT
Is it that goal judge? He can drink a cup of tea at the same time as reffing a game.
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Post by NottinghamMatt on Jan 20, 2014 12:23:42 GMT
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Post by ted logan on Jan 20, 2014 12:29:30 GMT
Weird - O'Halloran is not even listed as a Ref? Just a 'b' linesman.
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Post by Yotes on Jan 20, 2014 12:33:01 GMT
So O'Halloran isn't even a qualified ref?
I'd probably say Hicks, they do their best but they're given no help to get better at it though. Slightly worrying how few there are actually.
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Post by panthersdave on Jan 20, 2014 12:46:41 GMT
It should be noted that Darnell and his linesmen got the decision to disallow that goal on Saturday absolutely right. I suspect it was also a rule that the vast majority were not aware of or had never seen before.
As for the rest of the game.....ho-hum
I honestly dont know who the best ref is, however the comment above that the game looks different from ice level is a valid one. Also from watching the coverage on Premier Sport with its slow mo replays I would say that they generally get the decisions right.
Wont stop me moaning during the games though.
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Post by bobness on Jan 20, 2014 13:24:45 GMT
It should be noted that Darnell and his linesmen got the decision to disallow that goal on Saturday absolutely right. I suspect it was also a rule that the vast majority were not aware of or had never seen before. Steady there tiger, with your fancy "ref makes a completely correct call on a rule that most people didn't even know existed" talk. We simply won't have that on here.
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Post by panthersdave on Jan 20, 2014 13:30:25 GMT
It should be noted that Darnell and his linesmen got the decision to disallow that goal on Saturday absolutely right. I suspect it was also a rule that the vast majority were not aware of or had never seen before. Steady there tiger, with your fancy "ref makes a completely correct call on a rule that most people didn't even know existed" talk. We simply won't have that on here. Hehe sorry
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Post by texpef on Jan 20, 2014 16:50:21 GMT
It was his opinion on that call and as he was the ref it was his to make but unless i can see video evidence i doubt very much that he was correct even if the call was there for him to make. Imho he made a mistake but it ended in a disallowed goal and he could not then go back from that so the decision stuck...
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Post by ted logan on Jan 20, 2014 16:55:28 GMT
Has anyone ever seen/heard that 'premature goalie substitution' call used before - I know I haven't.
Can we expect it to be consistently called in the future? Probably not.
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Post by Yotes on Jan 20, 2014 16:59:16 GMT
Has anyone ever seen/heard that 'premature goalie substitution' call used before - I know I haven't. Can we expect it to be consistently called in the future? Probably not. Nope, but it's not the first time there's been a call made that's a new one on me, and probably won't be the last time either. I still remember my first clipping I doubt any of us can say that, with us up at one end on delayed penalty, we were looking back to our bench to see if Conway was within 5ft of it when skater #6 jumped on the ice. Someone earlier said the linesman was making it clear to us what we'd done, but we didn't react to that. Seems fair enough to me.
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