EMB
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Post by EMB on Nov 5, 2006 13:18:48 GMT
anybody who is thinking about walkin away from Panthers an watching one of our many great sports teams in Nottingham, fine. go and watch the other teams in the top flight of its respective sport, oh wait a minute.... were going through a bad patch and im fed up of the doom and gloom on this site!! i pay just as much as any of you to go watch and i aint no rich boy i can promise you, i really really hate the position were in, hate it with a passion!! but were a big club in the top flight of our sport and yes once again were falling short but this season i feel different to previous ones, theres a hell of alot of players on that ice hurting and maybe some who dont show it and a coach working his ass off to sort it out last season we had a in charge and a bunch of lazy players who couldnt care less. this season is the first i dont mind being patient and sticking by the team because i can see some genuine effort.Nick Your post is music to my ears, I'm sure alot of fans also feel the same way. I would rather have Ellis here than last years effort. Mike needs our backing more than ever now. I know we have been poor but everyone has their ups and downs, its not that long ago that Steelers were calling for the heads of most of their players and we seem to be going down the same route. I will say though that there are 'other' forces working at this club that are only too happy to see Mr Ellis in this position and that is not helping matters, Its the same problem every year and maybe it should be sorted out first, although I don't think Mr Black has the balls. There is only one thing on their minds and that is the financial one. Like it or lump it. Sorry if Iv'e offended anyone.
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Post by heja on Nov 5, 2006 13:24:27 GMT
its not that we have been exceptionally poor though, we have looked like winning a few of the last games, eg manchester, two of the three steelers games.
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Post by NickThePanther44 on Nov 5, 2006 14:21:53 GMT
very true Heja and also last night i quite enjoyed alot of it and i think we deserved to win.
we need to get a win under our belts because what could sort this team out or ruin it is how they play after that win, for all we know we could go on and win the next ten games!!
it was only a few weeks since that who can stop the Panthers thread was on here, as a fan base we have a flippin short memory.
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Magpie
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Post by Magpie on Nov 5, 2006 14:34:19 GMT
well apart from the result i think the travel down from Newcastle was worth it, but to be honest without Dave Clarke you appear to have nothng offensively, your forwards need to learn to pass the puck to stick as soon as the Steelers scored their 2nd i knew there was no way back for you guys as drills and discipline went out the window. now looking forward to playing the Panthers up here at the MRA next week ;D
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Post by stu on Nov 5, 2006 16:03:55 GMT
Was great to see the two Danish lads last night, hope they enjoyed their trip!
The game: Average at best!
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Post by Stoopy on Nov 5, 2006 18:15:38 GMT
There is nothing wrong with the Panthers team that a little self confidence would not put right. In both games the tactics of the Steelers left the Panthers with a nervousness regarding the speed of the Steelers forwards in a one on one situation. We suffered the same scenario early in the season and we "rearranged" our lines to accomodate the one on one situation. At present I feel you are playing games "looking over your shoulders", that breeds inconsistency and fear. Ellis will now earn his money by having the team relax and do what earned you the position you were in prior to France. What Ellis does not need are the management, press and supporters on his back. Public criticism does not motivate everyone. Personally I enjoyed the Friday game, it was close and could have gone both ways. One thig this season no one is going to dominate, including Belfart.
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Post by PeteW on Nov 5, 2006 21:15:47 GMT
I think now is the time that not only the players need to regroup but the fans also. Ok things look bleak hey they are our team and we as fans should support them through thick and thin. We know certain players arnt cutting it as they themselves will know but the only way we are gonna turn it around is by our continued support. They've had my continued support for 25 years. How long do you think it will take to turn it around? I'm not getting any younger Watching Panthers must be like being a Newcastle fan
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Post by grumpyminer on Nov 5, 2006 21:21:35 GMT
OK perhaps I was a little abrupt with DAD on my previous post on this thread. My point was that we need to get behind the team when they lose just as much (if not more) as when we win. Not just call it poor and say ' I'm not watching this drivel anymore' I watch hockey to be entertained and preferably by a WINNING team, I will stand up alone and chant and cheer them on to get that win, as I did at the front of Block 11 on Saturday (you should have seen the look my girlfriend gave me ). I realise not everyone can do this. Cos if we all stood alone then we would be together And someone at the back would Shout "SIDAAHN!!" ;D
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Post by Lucy on Nov 5, 2006 22:14:16 GMT
Nope, you weren't abrupt with DAD - let him go if that's what he wants.
Sure it's hard right now, no it's worse than hard, it's flipping awful - I hate to lose, and especially to the Steelers.
I don't know what the answer is, heck half the time I don't even know what the problem is - could be one of many things. But it's the TEAM I support and I'll be there whatever the results.
And yes one day, when all comes good I'll still be there!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2006 22:15:03 GMT
If Ellis is to make changes (which I wouldn't based on performances pre France) he has to look at some things simple like were doing in Sheffield. Whats different now from then as there have been no player changes.
We had a problem loosing loads of goals at the moment we seem more solid..Ellis has to get back to basics.
Have you as i feel we have too many luxury players..Ie Gustavson = High scoring tough forward ?? only got tough since Johnson has arrived and thinking maybe he might stay and i'm off..but still not banging in the goals 2 of our ''D'' are in the top 5 ahead of some forwards
I know some of you will go off on one here but for his checking alone is Simoes a real asset or do you need more points from the guy? don't get me wrong i'd swap 2 or 3 for him right now..
Nielson for me isn't that great I wouldn't even drop any of ours for him..
Myers could do with passing a bit more again in my opinion from the last 3 games..
But there is a good base there as your early season results were proving it's a case of just getting into a habit of winning again......which you will, mean time everyone is still taking points off evryone else.
Hang in there i'm sure Ellis will sort things out if not old Curtis Cruks may be available...lol
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Post by runnerbean on Nov 5, 2006 23:20:52 GMT
I don't care how poor he felt. At least he did not have to pay to watch that drivel. Ask for nothing & you will recive it in abundance. Why did I buy a ticket for tonigt? Why do I continue to care when it seems blatantly obvious people within the organisation do not. Enough is enough. Me and my hard earned cash are going elsewhere. Well DAD if that is your attitude and opinion, we don't need you and we won't miss you. You, obviously, are not a real Panthers supporter.Real supporters watch through thick and thin and not just whenwe're winning. And if you thought that was drivel, you should have been in Sheffield on Friday. Well said!! ;D
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Post by newham on Nov 6, 2006 0:40:42 GMT
Well DAD if that is your attitude and opinion, we don't need you and we won't miss you. You, obviously, are not a real Panthers supporter.Real supporters watch through thick and thin and not just whenwe're winning. And if you thought that was drivel, you should have been in Sheffield on Friday. So anyone that questions following the side isn't a real supporter? How about my parents for example? They've been following the side home and away since we came to be again. They even queued through the night for tickets at home games back at LPS. Just lately they feel less inclined to come down though. It's not just the lack of trophies (although that does come into it), it's the general lack of interest from everyone in the organisation unless they're hyping the next 'huge' game. It's the over-paid and under-skilled imports. It's the lack of sides and atmosphere at games. I, like they would find it highly offensive if you would class them as not being 'real' fans, especially considering they have pumped more money into the club in their years than you have. Sorry if this is overly-aggresive, i just don't like people using that phrase for people who have just had enough.
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Post by newham on Nov 6, 2006 0:48:56 GMT
anybody who is thinking about walkin away from Panthers an watching one of our many great sports teams in Nottingham, fine. go and watch the other teams in the top flight of its respective sport, oh wait a minute.... were going through a bad patch and im fed up of the doom and gloom on this site!! A bad patch? Is this the same bad patch that has resulted in us winning one trophy out of the 40 or so available to us over the last 10 years? The doom and gloom is well placed, we are very much a loser side. Thanks to the Moran effect, we are pretty much a laughing stock of the entire league and every season we lose face quicker than the A-team in a garden maze. i pay just as much as any of you to go watch and i aint no rich boy i can promise you, i really really hate the position were in, hate it with a passion!! but were a big club in the top flight of our sport and yes once again were falling short but this season i feel different to previous ones, theres a hell of alot of players on that ice hurting and maybe some who dont show it and a coach working his ass off to sort it out last season we had a toss pot in charge and a bunch of lazy players who couldnt care less. this season is the first i dont mind being patient and sticking by the team because i can see some genuine effort. Well you can see something that we can't then. I see a team that has quickly managed to destroy a season in a little over a month and show little signs of ending this wonderful little run. Whilst we may have more honesty in the squad this season, we have no more ability and no more potential than we have in the several pathetic seasons before us.
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MP
Paul Adey
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Post by MP on Nov 6, 2006 0:48:57 GMT
Considered reflections after the game. An improvement in effort and at least it wasn't a bore fest to watch. Matty Myers had a storming third period and Emersic was winning face-offs clean against Tessier! Since when has he been a face-off man? - hope he can keep it up, we desperately need some one to win the crucial face-offs. Other than that, not many positives to take out of the game. When it comes to attacking we're still slow and lacking flair. Can only surmise the lack of confidence is the reason for the poor shooting on goal. We were doing the work last night instead of the puck do it. All the teams I've seen so far this season seem to get plenty of bodies back in front of the net when defending (except Panthers ) so dumping the puck in or shooting from distance are not going to be productive. Fast skating and incisive passing to get the defence and keeper going sideways is the key to unlocking those defences but we just can't do it at the moment. When it comes to defending - well, we don't. Krajicek, Rees and Meyers are decent Dmen but our positional play is woeful at times - another horrific turn over last night for Sheffields opener. Lyndsay is sound enough in goal - his rebound control isn't the greatest, but he does need a defence playing in front of him. We lack effective transition play at the moment - our attacks are laboured and predictable and too easily ushered out to the boards where we become ineffective. I'm puzzled by the use of Simoes - surely he should be out there checking the oppositions key players all game long? Perhaps I'm missing something, but that just doesn't seem to be happening. It's all very disappointing after the promising start to the season. The players had ability at the start of the season so presumably they still have it. Admittedly other teams are up to speed now and have perhaps worked out how to play us but I don't think that's the explanation. Assuming there are no rifts in the dressing room then loss of confidence seems to be the mostly likely explanation and it's hard not to point the finger at the Continental Cup. I said two weeks ago that we'd have a good idea of what the rest of the season holds for us after the the Challenge Cup games this weekend. It seems clear enough now - assuming this downward spiral can be halted, we can be a mid table team otherwise we're going to be scrapping at the wrong end of the table. There have to be changes to turn things around. I don't see how we can change the style of play to any great extent given the personnel we have, so there will have to be changes to the roster.
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Post by newham on Nov 6, 2006 0:57:42 GMT
"An improvement in effort and at least it wasn't a bore fest to watch."
That last bit is just about the only thing keeping me going!
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Post by andyd on Nov 6, 2006 2:14:10 GMT
I think the decision not to sign an out and out goal scorer is not helping your team at all... We did sign one, his name's Sean McAslan. Unfortunately we all know where he is.
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Post by chris22 on Nov 6, 2006 8:55:50 GMT
Let things cool down first but just one observation...
In the game thread for the week before there was a fuss made about the apparent booing of McAslan. On Saturday there was widespread booing of Shane Johnson when he hopped off the ice!
Chris
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Post by Rink Rush on Nov 6, 2006 10:53:15 GMT
every season we lose face quicker than the A-team in a garden maze. ;D ;D ;D ;D That's the funniest line I've heard in a long time.
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Robbie Nud
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Post by Robbie Nud on Nov 6, 2006 12:30:31 GMT
Let things cool down first but just one observation... In the game thread for the week before there was a fuss made about the apparent booing of McAslan. On Saturday there was widespread booing of Shane Johnson when he hopped off the ice! Chris I think that had something to do with Johnson went down like he had been pole-axed, but there was nobody near him! It was near the end of the game, we were putting the pressure on to get a winner to force overtime and he goes down, stops play and breaks the momentum. Draw your own conclusions!!
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Post by Rhino#13 on Nov 6, 2006 12:58:22 GMT
Gutted, but ignoring the negatives (AAAARGH ! NEILSON !) and looking on the positives, who realised Ellis could play like that ??! I didn't even know he was a player at all. Fantastic goal, he's got a very decent turn of pace and he was throwing himself into checks even though he was possibly the smallest guy on the ice. I'd play him every week !
Meanwhile, how did the Steelers equaliser go in ? I was mostly watching Krajicek deck someone with a quite blatant elbow to the head, but then spotted the puck toppling into the top corner of the net over Lindsay's shoulder. How did that happen ? Was he unsighted ? Or was it another soft, 'pass that went in' type goal ?
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Post by twix on Nov 6, 2006 13:03:58 GMT
Let things cool down first but just one observation... In the game thread for the week before there was a fuss made about the apparent booing of McAslan. On Saturday there was widespread booing of Shane Johnson when he hopped off the ice! Chris Maybe if Johnson wasn't 'the boy who cried wolf' he wouldn't have got that reaction Sorry but the dying swan act that he does several times a season (he did when with Belfast too) at crucial times in the game is wearing a bit thin! I only hope that one day he doesn't realyl get hurt because we wouldn't know. In case you wondered, yes as usual he skated back to the bench with his head down, shaking his head at the Panthers fans who were booing him......with a massive grin on his face for those of us close enough to see...
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Post by twix on Nov 6, 2006 13:06:01 GMT
Gutted, but ignoring the negatives (AAAARGH ! NEILSON !) and looking on the positives, who realised Ellis could play like that ??! I didn't even know he was a player at all. Fantastic goal, he's got a very decent turn of pace and he was throwing himself into checks even though he was possibly the smallest guy on the ice. I'd play him every week ! Anybody who's watched him play for GB including April this year in Amiens. I thought it was basically a fluke. Don't think Evan had a chance to stop it given the angle it came from.
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Magpie
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Post by Magpie on Nov 6, 2006 16:50:35 GMT
Watching Panthers must be like being a Newcastle fan Howay an givower man, wora ye on?
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Post by KimThePanther on Nov 6, 2006 17:08:16 GMT
Watching Panthers must be like being a Newcastle fan Howay an givower man, wora ye on? You're quite right (if my Geordie is up to scratch), even the Panthers have won the Championship more recently than Newcastle United.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2006 18:24:17 GMT
Hello friends thanks for a great weekend it was awesome. And we will come back some day.
Greetings Tommy and Henrik Crazy Bling Bling Danes SøndejyskE Vojens
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