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Post by ted on Dec 15, 2009 8:22:25 GMT
so..... ashfieldpanther... care to comment
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Post by Shaggy on Dec 15, 2009 8:30:35 GMT
How can you comment on two games that you didn't attend? well , lets see, a one goal win over a team who ve been getting tonked by all and sundry recently and a penalty shots win over the league basement club...! doesn t take a rocket scientist does it? I would hope not, especially if it was a rocket scientist who hadn't seen the games... Pidge - you've been watching hockey long enough to know that league standings and recent runs of form don't tell the whole story - far from it. Sure... Newcastle have taken some bad hits lately - a tonking by Belfast last week... but hang on, didn't they beat Belfast just a few days before that? And a tonking by Cardiff a couple of weeks ago... the team that Newcastle had beaten only a few days before that. And by all accounts, playing at Whitley Bay (the first time we've done so?) is a bit of an impediment to those not used to it. As for Sunday... two injury-ravaged teams, our lines messed up to all hell and gone (not to mention missing Bruce The Motivator), a hot opposition netminder (Sandahl fully deserved his MoM), a ref who quite frankly went into the realm of incompetence and out the other side, a goal that wasn't.... haven't you read any of the other accounts of the game on this thread? As for your original comment - "yes a 4 point weekend but hardly achieved in style was it." - if you mean by "style" a dazzling display of smooth virtuoso moves that left the opposition gasping... then, no. If you mean taking every knockback and disadvantage that illness, injury, GB call-ups, dodgy rinks, dodgier refs, good opposition play and just plain bad luck can chuck at us - and fighting back to win regardless? Absolutely, yes. Quite frankly, Pidge - you simply don't know what you are talking about.
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Post by HeartsAndKisses on Dec 15, 2009 8:36:00 GMT
Quite frankly, Pidge - you simply don't know what you are talking about. ;D ;D ;D
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Post by pantherinmanc on Dec 15, 2009 8:49:51 GMT
Sometimes the mentality of some absolutely baffles me. We've fought tooth and nail to get 4 excellent points from 2 games that were never going to be easy. 2 games where half the roster are under the weather, 6 guys are out and our Sunday game winner was, to all intents and purposes, a part time player. How many times do Manchester United scrape through with goals in the 10th minute of injury time after not playing particularly well. The very best teams are those that win in style, win with grit and win against the odds - the best teams are those that win no matter what. To moan when they take 4 points from the weekend just gone, given the circumstances, to me just appears to reflect an overly negative attitude or, worse, a desire to criticise come hell or high water.
Shaggy has it spot on, you don't know what you're talking about.
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Post by Fez on Dec 15, 2009 8:53:02 GMT
Whenever I have seen him this year Jade has been excellent.
I struggle to think of many other players in the league, never mind the team, who could have made the play for Bruce's goal in cov last weekend.
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Post by Adam on Dec 15, 2009 9:01:37 GMT
As for your original comment - "yes a 4 point weekend but hardly achieved in style was it." - if you mean by "style" a dazzling display of smooth virtuoso moves that left the opposition gasping... then, no. If you mean taking every knockback and disadvantage that illness, injury, GB call-ups, dodgy rinks, dodgier refs, good opposition play and just plain bad luck can chuck at us - and fighting back to win regardless? Absolutely, yes. Dont forget this is also coming from a guy who wasn't at either game over the weekend........
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Post by Rumpole on Dec 15, 2009 9:14:00 GMT
How can you comment on two games that you didn't attend? well , lets see, a one goal win over a team who ve been getting tonked by all and sundry recently and a penalty shots win over the league basement club...! doesn t take a rocket scientist does it? For heaven's sake Pidge. Vipers beat Giants at Whitley Bay - and I don't think the Giants were playing with only 4 import forwards, one of whom was clearly feeling under the weather! Stingrays only had one game last weekend, and our efforts of the previous night clearly showed. You weren't at Whitley Bay and so wouldn't have seen Macca and Levers double shifting all game, as well as a huge effort from everybody else. Quit moaning.
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Post by panthers4ever on Dec 15, 2009 11:55:18 GMT
4 points thats all that matters
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Post by sambo79 on Dec 15, 2009 12:43:28 GMT
In all fairness to the OP, most of the people on this thread slating the absurdity of his post wouldn't have re-signed Jade at the end of last season. You're all quick to forget that little gem.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2009 12:52:44 GMT
well , lets see, a one goal win over a team who ve been getting tonked by all and sundry recently and a penalty shots win over the league basement club...! doesn t take a rocket scientist does it? I would hope not, especially if it was a rocket scientist who hadn't seen the games... Pidge - you've been watching hockey long enough to know that league standings and recent runs of form don't tell the whole story - far from it. Sure... Newcastle have taken some bad hits lately - a tonking by Belfast last week... but hang on, didn't they beat Belfast just a few days before that? And a tonking by Cardiff a couple of weeks ago... the team that Newcastle had beaten only a few days before that. And by all accounts, playing at Whitley Bay (the first time we've done so?) is a bit of an impediment to those not used to it. As for Sunday... two injury-ravaged teams, our lines messed up to all hell and gone (not to mention missing Bruce The Motivator), a hot opposition netminder (Sandahl fully deserved his MoM), a ref who quite frankly went into the realm of incompetence and out the other side, a goal that wasn't.... haven't you read any of the other accounts of the game on this thread? As for your original comment - "yes a 4 point weekend but hardly achieved in style was it." - if you mean by "style" a dazzling display of smooth virtuoso moves that left the opposition gasping... then, no. If you mean taking every knockback and disadvantage that illness, injury, GB call-ups, dodgy rinks, dodgier refs, good opposition play and just plain bad luck can chuck at us - and fighting back to win regardless? Absolutely, yes. Quite frankly, Pidge - you simply don't know what you are talking about. shaggy you would have known the ref would be awful before you tuirned up as they are every game. so panthers face a bit of adversity and overcome them , well done to that. Adam i don t need to go and dfrom the games ive seen this year, this panthers team is far from a title winning one. simples and before you say i only watch them when they re winning, my last game was the 6-3 over sheffield
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Post by Yotes on Dec 15, 2009 13:04:37 GMT
In all fairness to the OP, most of the people on this thread slating the absurdity of his post wouldn't have re-signed Jade at the end of last season. You're all quick to forget that little gem. Last season he was work shy and out of shape, this season he isn't. I'd have based my re-signing on season performance, so no I wouldn't have brought him back, as I already said. If anything he's proven the people who criticised him last year to be right; he was capable of much more.
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Post by ted on Dec 15, 2009 13:15:59 GMT
In all fairness to the OP, most of the people on this thread slating the absurdity of his post wouldn't have re-signed Jade at the end of last season. You're all quick to forget that little gem. I dont think anyones denied that.... in fact, most people have recognised the fact... as yotes says.... our frustrations proved right as this season he is playing to his potential
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Post by Number 9.1 on Dec 15, 2009 13:58:37 GMT
In all fairness to the OP, most of the people on this thread slating the absurdity of his post wouldn't have re-signed Jade at the end of last season. You're all quick to forget that little gem. Last season he was work shy and out of shape, this season he isn't. I'd have based my re-signing on season performance, so no I wouldn't have brought him back, as I already said. If anything he's proven the people who criticised him last year to be right; he was capable of much more. What he said.
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Post by pantherinmanc on Dec 15, 2009 14:22:30 GMT
But fair play to Corey for noticing his potential (the easy part - we all saw that) and making him turn his attitude around (the not so easy part). By Jade's own admission he spent a lot of time with Corey over the summer and it's clear some of Corey's work ethic has rubbed off on him. It's easy to go out and pick up players who are already on top of their game, the top coaches take raw ingredients and turn those into top players. Also Jade would be a lot more expensive if he had come in this season from another team where he had just put in a season the like of which we are seeing from him now - so Corey's 'gamble' has probably paid off both in terms of what we are getting on the ice and what we are paying for that off the ice.
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Post by Jovanovski on Dec 15, 2009 19:35:16 GMT
I would hope not, especially if it was a rocket scientist who hadn't seen the games... Pidge - you've been watching hockey long enough to know that league standings and recent runs of form don't tell the whole story - far from it. Sure... Newcastle have taken some bad hits lately - a tonking by Belfast last week... but hang on, didn't they beat Belfast just a few days before that? And a tonking by Cardiff a couple of weeks ago... the team that Newcastle had beaten only a few days before that. And by all accounts, playing at Whitley Bay (the first time we've done so?) is a bit of an impediment to those not used to it. As for Sunday... two injury-ravaged teams, our lines messed up to all hell and gone (not to mention missing Bruce The Motivator), a hot opposition netminder (Sandahl fully deserved his MoM), a ref who quite frankly went into the realm of incompetence and out the other side, a goal that wasn't.... haven't you read any of the other accounts of the game on this thread? As for your original comment - "yes a 4 point weekend but hardly achieved in style was it." - if you mean by "style" a dazzling display of smooth virtuoso moves that left the opposition gasping... then, no. If you mean taking every knockback and disadvantage that illness, injury, GB call-ups, dodgy rinks, dodgier refs, good opposition play and just plain bad luck can chuck at us - and fighting back to win regardless? Absolutely, yes. Quite frankly, Pidge - you simply don't know what you are talking about. shaggy you would have known the ref would be awful before you tuirned up as they are every game. so panthers face a bit of adversity and overcome them , well done to that. Adam i don t need to go and dfrom the games ive seen this year, this panthers team is far from a title winning one. simples and before you say i only watch them when they re winning, my last game was the 6-3 over sheffield Pidge aka Mystic Meg any chance of tomorrow nights lottery numbers, re refs i have seen some decent reffing performances this season but as I go regulary, I have more chance of doing that than you!
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Post by Jovanovski on Dec 15, 2009 19:40:54 GMT
Ok got rid of that diversion.
Jade wasn't trying 100% last year so earned the criticism's he got, this year a totally different player therefore people opinions change with that fact. If he was playing in the same way as last season I would drive him to the airport but he isn't so deserves the praise.
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