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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2009 8:47:42 GMT
If we are going for comparisons we win a game well, 6 Pages, lose by a narrow margin 8 pages, we are good at criticism not so good on praise though! +1 i was about to say, didn t follow last nights games, come on this morning, 10 + pages !! panthers must have lost
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Post by Spoonerdudes on Dec 7, 2009 9:46:29 GMT
one thing that was commented upon during the period break amongst the blaze fans where i sat was we all though that KSP seems to be struggling with his catching...and the concensus was he may have injured himself or was carrying an injury.. several times he caught something only to either drop it or fumble it. how strange you comment on last nights game but not after saturdays Pidge unlike some I do not comment on games I did not see. I was not at the game on Saturday but was on Sunday and made the observation that he looked injured. At no time did I make a comment about him being a bad netminder at all.
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Post by Number 9.1 on Dec 7, 2009 10:35:23 GMT
If we are going for comparisons we win a game well, 6 Pages, lose by a narrow margin 8 pages, we are good at criticism not so good on praise though! +1 i was about to say, didn t follow last nights games, come on this morning, 10 + pages !! panthers must have lost The only thing more certain than extra pages in response to a defeat is someone trotting out this old tosh within a few hours of the game ending. Maybe there's less to say about something that works than there is about why it doesn't.
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Post by Number 9.1 on Dec 7, 2009 10:38:55 GMT
A definition of insanity is doing the same thing, over and over again, expecting different results. GAS BUSTER see how dull and monotonous it is to read it over and over again? welcome to how i feel. i read that crap day in, day out on this board. i think people struggle with the concept of 'some you win, some you lose' but deal with it by the knee jerk reaction of calling for the sacking of good players, and benching the coach. My knee's been jerking since September and it's still saying the same thing: GAS ST PIERRE!
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Post by texpef on Dec 7, 2009 11:08:58 GMT
Didnt see last nights game but it highlights to me why we wont win the league this season. A spirited performance some even say good but let down by individual errors which in the end cost us the points. There is little point in putting up a fight if in the end that is to naught which last night was. With close games it is vital to sign a netminder that brings that extra spark to the team (as Robins did for us and lehman did for steelers/blaze) and i tend to agree that albeit a solid netminder we are never going to see a truly game steeling performance from the saint (which is a shame as i think he is working his ass off) and as such its this factor more than any other as to the reason that we will come up short at the end of the season... Last night was a great chance to make some headway on all FOUR coventry games in hand this we failed to do and at the same time handed them a two point lead, this is fast becoming a mountain to over turn and not forgetting that all the surrounding teams have games in hand over us too.... This c r a p over the tannoy about all teams capable of beating others, well both belfast and coventry both seem able to bend this trend somewhat in their favour...and away from home too...
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Post by sambo79 on Dec 7, 2009 11:09:27 GMT
If we are going for comparisons we win a game well, 6 Pages, lose by a narrow margin 8 pages, we are good at criticism not so good on praise though! Such a fundamentally flawed argument that shows beyond doubt that Oldman is back. Thousands of people didn't see the Sunday game so they come on here to discuss it. I agree with Number 9 - there's generally more to discuss after a loss as we all pick apart the reasons for losing.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2009 11:23:57 GMT
+1 i was about to say, didn t follow last nights games, come on this morning, 10 + pages !! panthers must have lost The only thing more certain than extra pages in response to a defeat is someone trotting out this old tosh within a few hours of the game ending. Maybe there's less to say about something that works than there is about why it doesn't. Rubbish, it down to people moaning that panthers lost again, nothing else. Theres no reason why you can t have pages and pages of praise is there
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2009 11:40:36 GMT
how strange you comment on last nights game but not after saturdays Pidge unlike some I do not comment on games I did not see. I was not at the game on Saturday but was on Sunday and made the observation that he looked injured. At no time did I make a comment about him being a bad netminder at all. but you could offer at least a well done message, could you not?
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Post by texpef on Dec 7, 2009 11:43:46 GMT
Whats the point pidge is writing well done when just 24 hrs later that is all nullified with a loss?..
It isnt like we are now on a 10 game winning streak is it (a la belfast), now that is something to praise and if i remember rightly at the start of the season when the panthers did just that it was praised to the hilt, maybe that complacency is what has got us into this position?...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2009 13:52:50 GMT
Whats the point pidge is writing well done when just 24 hrs later that is all nullified with a loss?.. It isnt like we are now on a 10 game winning streak is it (a la belfast), now that is something to praise and if i remember rightly at the start of the season when the panthers did just that it was praised to the hilt, maybe that complacency is what has got us into this position?... Belfast lost on saturday
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2009 14:06:17 GMT
i heard st pierre liked to fight anyone he can get his hands on (didnt believe it like some). that didnt turn out to be true I think in the EIHL any goalie who fights is automatically thrown out, so he's probably been told not to. Which is a shame as goalie fights are great.
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Post by pantherdman on Dec 7, 2009 14:22:18 GMT
Yaaaaaawwwwwwwwwwwwwwn!!!
Roll on the next game.
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Post by sameagain on Dec 7, 2009 15:11:33 GMT
As I see it, people moan about losing more because they want us to win every game(even though that is not realistic), so they highlight everything that goes wrong. Lots of us never miss a home game and travel the length of the country supporting our team, some on here openly admit to choosing their games, so really don't see the full picture. Funny how these people tend to critisise more than any others, it's a fact of life, more pages when we lose.
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Post by Fez on Dec 7, 2009 15:47:02 GMT
I attended last night's game - my first away trip of the season. Boring as it may seem, my thoughts were little more than it proved the old adage - offence wins games (and sells tickets); defence wins championships.
We looked good going forward, scored some really good goals. Their goals just seemed to come too easily.
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Post by tredders on Dec 7, 2009 16:33:53 GMT
I thought you guys looked pretty good last night. The first period was one of the best I've seen in about 10 years. Turning point was the Campbell v D'Amour fight - gloves dropped away from the play, and a pretty long fight. This seemed to get the Blaze fans (and players) buzzing, and swung the game in our favour, following a fairly long period of Panthers possession.
Comments on individual players... KSP looked ok, but would probably want 2 or 3 back (as someone on here already posted). However, he didn't get a huge amount of help from his D, so it's not fair to heap all the blame on him, as some people have also been doing. Corey actually looked good (damn, it hurt to type that!), and D'Amour has one of the best slap shots I've ever seen. I do wonder about the logic of having a player/coach when you have a spare player on the sidelines (or is Toneys still injured?). I'd have thought that Corey would be better placed to coach from the bench, but that's just my opinion. Have to agree that Larocque looks off the pace, although he clearly has great hands. Not sure if Bergin is carrying an injury? I really rate him usually, but last night he was definitely not his usual self, and didn't seem much of a threat, either offensively or physically. He dropped his gloves following a big (but legal) hit from Robinson on Dalgleish, but it was never a fighting situation - no whistle, no stoppage in play, no protests from the Panthers bench, and Robinson just continued with the game. In fact, Dalgleish had absolutely levelled Russ Cowley with an identical hit earlier in the period, and again, the game just continued.
Third period was all Panthers. As someone said at the end of the game, it felt like we were penalty killing for an entire period. However, Hirsch had a good game, and the (double shifted and temporary) Blaze D played well, despite obviously being out on their feet.
There are some photos on the website (www.tredders.com), although they're mostly Blaze-related, for obvious reasons!
Nice to see a decent turn out from the visiting fans, and as usual, lots of noise from them (even if a lot of it was Coventry fan-baiting!).
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Post by dodit on Dec 7, 2009 16:49:10 GMT
Pidge unlike some I do not comment on games I did not see. I was not at the game on Saturday but was on Sunday and made the observation that he looked injured. At no time did I make a comment about him being a bad netminder at all. but you could offer at least a well done message, could you not? And you could do the same eh Pidge? To be honest this is my first post on this thread AFTER the match and I stared clear of the thread because I wasn't at the match and just wanted to read peoples views of the game of people that were there. You didn't make any attempt to keep track of the game last night, and yet you still think you have the right to critisize someone who did last night because they are putting a few on the game that they saw. No wonder you've got so many posts Not everyone who went to the match on Saturday has posted on the the thread for then, probably because they have better to do with their lives than post something that people like you are going to critsize them for because you don't agree, and you take your different opinion way out of proportion which makes them feel small in some cases. Coming back to this thread, I don't see what contribution (Just like this post) You have made about the game, other than, I didn't follow the game last night.
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Post by buster on Dec 7, 2009 16:52:38 GMT
in defence of pidge, there is nothing wrong with reading what others have put and making an informed opinion. it doesnt matter if you werent there, you can still contribute.
if it was like that and only people who went to the away games posted in the away games threads, then they would be very quiet indeed.
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Post by dodit on Dec 7, 2009 18:08:01 GMT
if it was like that and only people who went to the away games posted in the away games threads, then they would be very quiet indeed. That point would be beneficial to those who go on about gassing someone after every loss to be fair. By the way, you still haven't said that you told me so about last nights result
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Post by ggggranville on Dec 7, 2009 19:14:46 GMT
My take of the game. We started well and I said to my other half that we really seemed up for it. Scored a good goal (all four of ours were well taken) Campbell dopped the gloves with D'Amour and surprisingly shaded it. Whilst D'Amour was binned Chambers, who it seems always scores against us, duly obliged twice within 90 seconds. Both seemed savable from our position although it was at the opposite end of the arena. Brucie made it 2-2 but worryingly Thomson at this stage seemed to be giving penalties against us with regularity and it was Cowley who capitlised on our inability to clear the zone (twice) which was followed by Fulghgum scoring the fourth as Clarkie came out of the box. Again St Pierre would probably want the goal back. The second was evenly balanced with neither team able to exert their authority. However the Panthers went 5-2 down when the puck struck Thomson when being cleared bouncing kindly to two Blaze forwards and Calder easily slotted past St Pierre. Meyers then got ten minutes for complaining to the referee. The third was a complete transformation as Panthers piled on the pressure and Blaze had their backs against the wall. Helped by a series of powerplays we fought our way back into the game with a Clarkie tip in and a D'Amour blast. At this point Blaze were rocking and it really looked as though we could get something out of the game. A slightly controversial high stick call when Corey was about to shoot and a man in the crease call gave Blaze respite although Thomsom was missing blatant crosschecking and interference calls from a very tired looking Blaze. It seemed just a matter of time before the equaliser arrived when Macca was called for an innocuous challenge. Blaze score from the resultant power play (dare I say St Pierre would also want this goal back) and game over. I would add that I cannot see what Laroque brings to our defense. Hes big, yes but he really looks slow. To me the only advantage he has over Toneys is that he is left handed possible giving the mainly right handed (apart from D'Amour) make up of the defense more balance. I really dont now what to say about St Pierre. He started really well last (something he usually does not do) but as the game wore on seemed to lose confidence. Another annoying yet probably legitimate thing was when Corey called a time out the music was turned up a few notches together with the 'countdown' clock theme blasting out. Whether the our players were put off I couldnt say.
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Post by Rob #12 on Dec 7, 2009 19:41:02 GMT
if it was like that and only people who went to the away games posted in the away games threads, then they would be very quiet indeed. You mean as quiet as game threads where we win! 12 pages = loss 6 pages = win Wonder what all the extra chatter is all about?
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Post by ted on Dec 7, 2009 19:54:38 GMT
the loss?
you win, what people want? 12 pages of 'well done' and gushing praise?
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Post by MODSTUFF on Dec 7, 2009 19:58:20 GMT
12 pages = loss 6 pages = win Wonder what all the extra chatter is all about? Lasts nights game was a road game. Saturdays was an home game. First 6 pages of this game was updates from the skydome as a lot of fans were not there. Saturdays game needed no updates as most fans were at the game. hence the extra 6 pages. Simple.........?
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Post by Rob #12 on Dec 7, 2009 19:58:46 GMT
Why does a loss have any more to talk about than a win?
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Post by Jovanovski on Dec 7, 2009 19:59:27 GMT
Well maybe a bit more even handed, might be a change. Seems some people are just happy to complain and then stay quiet when we win, maybe the natural UK pessimism on all things in life! My take would be if we were on a US forum the differentials would be completely reversed.
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Post by ted on Dec 7, 2009 20:00:20 GMT
because its a loss, people have things to discuss.... such as why we lost.
FWIW.... yea maybe people should say in the game threads 'we won because we did this'... buts usually blindly obvious as to why we won, people will have different views on why we lost
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