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Post by ggggranville on Oct 31, 2006 16:48:11 GMT
I think more important at the moments is Mc Aslans welfare. Has there been any update as to the extent of injury
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Post by texpef on Oct 31, 2006 19:59:40 GMT
lets get this straight it happened in less than 2 seconds in that time we can all see exactly what we want/expect to see now cant we? Plus given the right camera angle etc it can be made to look anything from perfectly innocent to downright cheating, you only have to look at some of the videos of sheffield in belfast to see that, therefore only one who really knows whether he intended anything is gusto who lets be honest here would be anything but completely stupid to say it was not innocent! Now it comes as no surprise that the majority of steelers fans say it was innocent blah blah blah (afterall look at how innocent cloots is hes just a misunderstood thug!!!), but look at the circumstantial evidence re: mac as stated previously and i would have not been surprised if he was sent out to stop him by any means, may not have intented injury but i am pretty sure he intended to stop him scoring again...
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Post by charlish2099 on Oct 31, 2006 20:15:14 GMT
I think more important at the moments is Mc Aslans welfare. Has there been any update as to the extent of injury its all very quiet, as they say no news is good news, but am a little worried about the seriousness of the injury.
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Post by Nemesis on Oct 31, 2006 21:44:10 GMT
Well yeah!! Ha ha. Sorry to chuckle and I am in no way belittling the incident, but that did make me laugh! ;D As I said, hope he is back soon.
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Post by grumpyminer on Oct 31, 2006 22:11:12 GMT
I would hope the Panthers defencemen INTEND to stop those Steelers scoring this coming weekend, seeing as it is part of their job! EDIT: But I wouldn't want to see anyone injured (before I get any angry replies)
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Post by texpef on Oct 31, 2006 22:25:41 GMT
however he did a little more than just stop him nemesis, maybe funny for you but what would these forums be full of if simoes had gone out next shift and broke tessier leg with a legal check on the boards, funny isnt it.... not on your life it isnt...
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Post by matt44 on Oct 31, 2006 23:08:48 GMT
Sean should be out about 2 weeks.....
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2006 23:11:19 GMT
Sean should be out about 2 weeks..... Great news !! ;D
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Post by LUFC on Nov 1, 2006 0:02:02 GMT
Sean should be out about 2 weeks..... Great news !! ;D not so great is the two weeks without him, good that it isnt as serious as feared......thats if whats circulating about his leg is true.
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Post by jaycourtney on Nov 1, 2006 10:03:13 GMT
I think it would be good idea if Mac was de-registered. If even if he fit enough sooner, you really can't risk a knee injury at all. But then theirs the question who do replace him with?
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Post by ted on Nov 1, 2006 10:17:12 GMT
Ellis is playing next 5 games till Macaslan is back, so he told me and Keefe last night anyway
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Post by Rich on Nov 1, 2006 10:22:13 GMT
Ellis is playing next 5 games till Macaslan is back, so he told me and Keefe last night anyway Im happy with that, not quite the quality of mcaslan admittedly but he'll work hard and doesnt need to settle.I was impressed in france with his fitness and touch
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Post by Doughnut on Nov 1, 2006 10:22:58 GMT
Ellis is playing next 5 games till Macaslan is back, so he told me and Keefe last night anyway Does that mean they deregistered him before Sunday's game? The lack of a public announcement on this seems strange.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2006 10:31:56 GMT
So mac should return on the 19th Nov then if all goes well.?
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Post by ted on Nov 1, 2006 12:56:40 GMT
Depends.... does Elly already count as 'registered'... being the coach and all... not 100% sure how that works...
or do you have to register as a player separately... Id imagine its the latter
As Rich said... yea hes no Macca... but a good stand in in all honesty.
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Post by Shorty on Nov 1, 2006 12:59:28 GMT
If he was already registered he would have played instead of Petricko at the weekend.
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Post by ted on Nov 1, 2006 13:01:51 GMT
good point, didnt thin kthat through fully... thanks MATE!
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Post by KimThePanther on Nov 1, 2006 13:04:59 GMT
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Post by ted on Nov 1, 2006 13:07:32 GMT
This statement worries me slightly
"I know recent results haven't gone our way but apart rom the poor per-formances against Edinburgh and Hull, I don't think there has been a lot wrong that a few power-play goals and the luck of the bounce couldn't put right."
Basically saying.... 'Its just bad luck' doesnt cut it
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Post by Rich on Nov 1, 2006 13:20:08 GMT
I read that differently Teddy I think hes concentrating more on the lack of PP goals than the bad bounces but yeh its not ideal hes not noticing glaring problems like lack of any kind of breakout cohesion, communication and too many offsides
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Post by Shaggy on Nov 1, 2006 13:23:26 GMT
This statement worries me slightly "I know recent results haven't gone our way but apart rom the poor per-formances against Edinburgh and Hull, I don't think there has been a lot wrong that a few power-play goals and the luck of the bounce couldn't put right." Basically saying.... 'Its just bad luck' doesnt cut it Apart from the Coventry game (which I didn't attend, so can't comment upon) - I think he's pretty much said it right, though. He's outright said that the team were poor against the Caps and Rays - so that's 2 out of the 5 losses covered. At least he's not making any bones about it - the team were poor for both of them, and he's not ducking that one. Saturday against the Steelers - washed-out goals by Carson notwithstanding - the big problem was the lack of PP goals. And the Manchester game... well, they started off poor but got a lot better - and there were some bad bounces in that one (plus the aforementioned lack of PP goals). The only thing he hasn't mentioned is injuries - and we've had a slew of those, haven't we? Who has missed games so far with injury - Moran, Meyers, Cooke, Stevens, Petricko and now McAslan? In just 8 weeks... that's brutal. It's down to a combination of factors, as these things usually are... and I think he's pretty much covered the main ones.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2006 13:25:09 GMT
if we are quoting years leeds i am sure many if not most of the nic fan base can match and beat 15 yrs means nothing and as been stated people see what they want to see. Alot of fans i have spoke to "saw" gusto motioning his skates down on the legs of what was our best player and by doing so taking him out of the game (and probably many more besides), hence improving the chances of steelers taking something out of this and the next 2 games we play them. As you admit gusto's skate "caught" macs knee which i would think is pretty difficult to do accidentally and as i previously stated If that was how the steelers management wanted to play the game then i would have reciprocated.... As Peacock posted i also don't agree Tex how is a player in that situation going to have time and space to plan that let alone carry it out. As Gus checked him his body moved back and his right foot caught Maca on the leg just below whree the Knee and actuall shin pad meet...as a Hockey fan not a Steeler As you said it all happened in 2 seconds...
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Post by Rich on Nov 1, 2006 13:30:08 GMT
Fair enough we will miss Mcaslan but the injury list doesnt look tooo bad in terms of quality, If we were without Lindsay,Krajicek,Clarke,Simoes or Shmyr we would struggle a lot more (Stating the obvious I guess but we need to save that excuse incase we lose any of the above mentioned). And before I get slated watch what Shmyr does off the puck and how much space he makes for the likes of Clarke to shoot, theres no one else on the team who can really step up in that way
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Post by texpef on Nov 1, 2006 13:37:37 GMT
"As Peacock posted i also don't agree Tex how is a player in that situation going to have time and space to plan that let alone carry it out. As Gus checked him his body moved back and his right foot caught Maca on the leg just below whree the Knee and actuall shin pad meet...as a Hockey fan not a Steeler " As a reasonably long time supporter myself i have seen players sent out to do exactly what he did (or at least thats how it appeared both as a neutral and a panthers supporters both to my team and others) so i know exactly how fast these incidents occur and if you look back i elluded to the speed of the incident. However IF as i suspect the overall effect was premeditated but not necessarily the actual outcome, then gusto did indeed know exactly where his skates were and were they were going and to some extent the outcome of the check and follow up. All supposition of course as i said previously only person who really knows is not you nor i but gusto himself and only a fool would stand up and say anything other than it was accidental. To describe the check as you did is totally incredible as no one has a clear video of it and it happened in less that 1-2 seconds, i am completely in awe at your ability to view a game and will be forwarding your unbiased eye to the elite league to be their number one head ref immediately. All i know is what happened in the aftermath, in that it had a desired effect as far as steelers were concerned in that it nullified what little threat we had and that neilsen who is not known as a fighter and was right on the spot went mad and went after gusto not a reaction from a player who thought it was legal and had a much better view of it than anyone in the audience. Now i can understand ellis's reaction to not retaliate at the time as 4-1 up we should have won the game BUT i think i would not have been so forgiving....
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2006 14:00:34 GMT
Just a view from the front of block 3 where it happened unlike yourself most likley sat at the other side of the rink...Where were you sat when it actually happened out of interest?
And there is the small matter of the laws of Physics and for every reaction there is an opposite reaction hence after the hit Gus was falling back and the skate in a kick fashion to make it easy for you to understand caught Maca's leg i can't make it any clearer for you tex that's how i saw it from max 4ft away.
to conclude though as i'm bored now if it was pre med then it was one of the cleverest things and most skillfull i've ever seen but don't condone.
Get well soon Maca, from at least me in Sheffield - skill like your's should never be off the ice
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