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Post by thisiswhere on Oct 28, 2006 22:14:07 GMT
WARNING: i will no doubt offend some here so don't read, this is an anti- matt myers thread....
There were many things tonight that have irritated me and now doubt many other panthers. However, one thing really sent me over the top tonight, Matt Myers penalty shot- firstly, why did he even step up for a shot, he was the only forward who failed to score during the open training session and his points over the last year or two hardly suggest hes on fire do they?! Someone i.e. Clarke or Emersic who know how to score should surely have been the better options?! Anyhoo worse still, he had the penalty shot to decide the game infront of an almost packed house against our arch rivals (in what i'm told is the biggest rivalry in the whole continent would you believe!!!) and he decides to take it on his back hand of all things!!
Now i give him credit, he circled the steelers zone and no one touched him before putting the puck past the steelers in what was a great goal, i can't not appreiciate that and the quality of it. However, his decision on what to do with the penalty shot has seriously irritated me and this has just tipped the scales for me.
Take for instance the move he did tonight which led to his goal, i cant criticise that, he scored, the problem is he tries that and very, very rarely has any effect wth it. More often thatn not the puck only ever leaves his stick when he either falls over or runs himself into a dead end, the guy doesnt really create much or assist any of his line mates. And i know he's hardly a first line centre but he is still a centre and his recent points record over the last year or two really is appauling. Tonight was appaerntly his first goal of the season as well and he only had 6 points before it.
Anyway, rant over, I know its been a bad and irritating night and this is not looking for a scape goat to this poor run we're in, i've simply become seriously annoyed with matt myers and why we keep signing him to contracts, why not give Neil a much deserved shift, at least he can shoot!
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Post by newham on Oct 28, 2006 22:15:47 GMT
So he scores a great goal but you criticise him for having the bottle to step up for the penalty shot? So what if he missed? So did Petricko.
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Post by thisiswhere on Oct 28, 2006 22:21:22 GMT
Like i say, my rant isn't purely based on tonight, the guys been irritating me for over a year now, i just don't understand why hes on the team still. can you explain exactly what he brings to it please cos i cant work it out? And my problem with his backhand is, he isn't that great a player and in that situation when the game can be won in that one shot, why backhand it? he's tried it before, failed miserably, why try it again?
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Post by newham on Oct 28, 2006 22:30:18 GMT
He's frustrating rather than irritating. He's got such good stickwork but his production is minimal, so to a certain degree i agree with you. I wasn't there tonight, but i don't think you can argue with his production in the game.
In short, he can be a lot better than he is.
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Post by thisiswhere on Oct 28, 2006 22:34:12 GMT
Thank you Newham, i do have to agree, his stick work is good, however, he always takes it that second or two at least to far then finds his efforts are worthless, he needs to learn to pass. Part of his problem is he doesn't really stand his ground well, he cant really fight for the puck in the corners as well as he should do by now, he doesn't seem to be progressing as a hockey player basically, and i personally think James Neil would be more productive playing instead of him. I'm sorry but i just dont see what he's bringing to the team!
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Post by Keyring on Oct 28, 2006 22:35:02 GMT
The only thing he brings to our team is grit, he trys hard but thats pretty much it. Even id try hard if i had the chance to play for Panthers. It's true what you say Thisiswhere and i understand your frustration towards this guy.
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Post by pantherfan on Oct 28, 2006 22:39:24 GMT
The guy is the definition of hustle. You think Emersic should have taken the shot due to haveing more points? Emersic has 2 points A penalty shot has alot to do with confidence aswell and at the end of the day he did score and Ellis and Carlsson choose the shooters.
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Post by thisiswhere on Oct 28, 2006 22:44:42 GMT
Ok so you got me on the emersic point i realised after i wrote it but even so we choose backhand? and thats not my main point here, yes the guy can hustle but im not seeing much end product at all, so am still confused as to why hes here...
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Post by spik on Oct 28, 2006 23:24:02 GMT
Have you thought that those you wanted to take the penalty shots , may have declined?
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Post by heja on Oct 29, 2006 1:16:04 GMT
i don'tlike matt myers but only because he skateshim self into trouble
when in our zone CLEAR THE BLOODY PUCK
and when going into there zone PASS!!!!
tonight he had an ok game, wouldn't of let him step up for the penalty shot though, wouldn't give it clarke either, would have simoes everytime, would of had macaslan had he not go hurt.
so SIMOES, PETRICKO, bLAZ would bemy choices
myers can shoot at all, he can't pass, he can't skate, but he has good hands and had deke'd lehman but obviously can't finish it off as he can't shoot
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Post by pantherfan on Oct 29, 2006 1:45:46 GMT
He can skate and pass really well, ok he's no Emersic but he definatley should be playing EIHL and if your going to deke the goalie why would you need an accurate boomer of a shot?
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Post by heja on Oct 29, 2006 2:39:30 GMT
you don't but myers can't shoot at all all he needed to do was getthe puckon target having deke'd lehman out of position, but Petrickos was worse than myers shot his second that is LOL
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Post by Mark on Oct 29, 2006 2:59:26 GMT
Myers really is frustating, a fantastic goal tonight but when will he score again?
Too much holding on to the puck and skating into dead ends, culminating in a fall.
His penalty miss was atrocious, he rounds Lehman, the net empty and backhands it wide.
Matt Myers certainly has potential, but isn't it time he started realizing it?
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Post by gazzathedevil on Oct 29, 2006 9:48:23 GMT
Matt Myers can and has been a fantastic hockey player, i dont know whats happened to him though to Warrant this sort of criticism. Heja said he cant skate, but at Cardiff skating was one of his strongest attributes in a Devils shirt. Did MWB really set Myers back that badly?
What i will say though is that if you guys dont want him send him back home we'll happily welcome him back ;D
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Post by martinski83 on Oct 29, 2006 10:32:03 GMT
Matt Myers can and has been a fantastic hockey player, i dont know whats happened to him though to Warrant this sort of criticism. Heja said he cant skate, but at Cardiff skating was one of his strongest attributes in a Devils shirt. Did MWB really set Myers back that badly? What i will say though is that if you guys dont want him send him back home we'll happily welcome him back ;D If there's any football fans in here, you'll fondly remember the 2002 World Cup for one reason: Emile Heskey spending the whole tournament on his arse. It wasn't Emile's fault nor is it a swing at him. He just couldn't stay on his feet for whatever reason. It's 2006 and Matt Myers is suffering the same fate. Martin
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Post by Pawstalker on Oct 29, 2006 10:41:20 GMT
I agree he scored a superb goal tonight, but how did he get MOM?
His job is as a Centre and play-maker. He definately didn't perform as a play-maker and as for his role at centre, did anyone see him win a clean face-off, because I didn't.
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Post by scottgirlie87 on Oct 29, 2006 11:36:34 GMT
I think Matt is a key player on Panthers because only Simoes and Matt look like they want to graft and get the win for Panthers. I don't think he should of taken the penalty shot because there are better penalty takers in the team but he was on fire last night.
Think you should look around the rest of the team before you start pointing the finger at one player who works so hard on the ice!!!
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Post by PeteW on Oct 29, 2006 11:54:13 GMT
Someone i.e. Clarke or Emersic who know how to score - Emersic!!! 1 goal in 14 games. - the guy doesnt really create much or assist any of his line mates. And i know he's hardly a first line centre but he is still a centre and his recent points record over the last year or two really is appauling. Myers had 8 points before this game (admittedly all assists) but that's only equalled by Krajicek and bettered by Neilson with 10. I'll admit though that he shouldn't take penalty shots until he's practised and practised something that's reasonable effective. But as far as Brits go he's one of the better ones in the league.
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Post by gazzathedevil on Oct 29, 2006 12:01:04 GMT
So hang on, people are saying he isnt a playmaker yet he has one of the best Assist records for you so far this season. He cant skate yet he by all accounts scored a marvellous goal for you last night. And he had the bottle to step up to take a penalty shot. Oh and his name is being brought up in the positive sense with Steve Simoes who people on here seem to universally agree is your best player.
Im confused it seems the more people criticise matty the more positives i am finding in his game for you guys
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Post by Peacock on Oct 29, 2006 12:11:08 GMT
Gazza, there are a lot more people who want Myers playing for Nottingham than those that don't. If only he'd stop doing his damn Bambi act quite so often! For those criticising him taking a Pen Shot...it is well known that Panthers practice them - hence the Loser Cruiser. Has anyone thought that just maybe Myers is one of the better ones, and that he simply missed? I'm sure it would have been McAslan had he been there, but he wasn't, so fair play to Myers for actually stepping up.
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Post by Mythosman on Oct 29, 2006 12:12:23 GMT
For what it's worth, my view is give me a bench of players that possess the energy and drive that Matty has!
His goal last night was a peach and, as far as I can remember, he certainly held his own on face-offs.
The Penalty Shot issue was obviously a case of volunteers, but I really would have liked to have seen Clarkie, in his role as Captain, demonstrate some leadership, step up to the plate and be the first one out on the ice - just as Maltby was for the Steelers!
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Post by texpef on Oct 29, 2006 13:26:41 GMT
to be honest imho there are worst players on the panthers team right now and they arent all brits either...
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Post by dodit on Oct 29, 2006 13:56:41 GMT
So he scores a great goal but you criticise him for having the bottle to step up for the penalty shot? So what if he missed? So did Petricko. My point exactly newham yoiur only critizing matty because he missed a penalty shot. i bet on steel talk there not critizing tessier because he missed two. So what if matt don't pass have any of you been watching clarke at panthers matches this season i can't actually remeber him passing last night, yes maybe he can score goals but it is a team game and when you play as a team like last night you generally play better an dit was a great match last night never mind of the score so just think on what you put about myers before you post something bad about him Now blaz is a play maker he only got 10 goals last year anyway and how can he score a load on third line or in defence.
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Post by PeteW on Oct 29, 2006 14:55:49 GMT
Now blaz is a play maker he only got 10 goals last year anyway and how can he score a load on third line or in defence. In that case they might as well put him back on D same as last year because he's only got 3 assists in 15 games as well. So what's he doing? Playing 3rd line centre, why? He's no centre, but then who are our others? Only Myers IMO.
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Post by Rich on Oct 29, 2006 14:59:37 GMT
I agree he scored a superb goal tonight, but how did he get MOM? His job is as a Centre and play-maker. He definately didn't perform as a play-maker and as for his role at centre, did anyone see him win a clean face-off, because I didn't. yes I can think of 3, 2of them against Tessier actually and thats no mean feat. Iv never been MMs biggest fan but when we went thro a slump last season he ran and hid, at the moment he wants the puck every shift and is workin his ass off. Fair point re penalty shots tho, id ay he was the worst on the team at them, whats wrong with Clarkie taking one instead of Neilson and Myers
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