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Post by wallflower on Oct 9, 2006 9:54:54 GMT
Wonder if anyone else has been affected by Panthers games not starting on time? Advertised time is 7 pm but the last 2 games I've been to have been ten minutes late in starting. This means that my son (season ticket owner) has had to miss the last ten minutes of both games so that he can catch the last train back to Loughborough. This is pretty annoying when you have paid for the whole game but only get to see 2.5 periods .... Come on Panthers, if the opposition aren't ready for 7 pm, start without them .........  |
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Post by Heanor Lair on Oct 9, 2006 10:03:08 GMT
Wonder if anyone else has been affected by Panthers games not starting on time? Advertised time is 7 pm but the last 2 games I've been to have been ten minutes late in starting. This means that my son (season ticket owner) has had to miss the last ten minutes of both games so that he can catch the last train back to Loughborough. This is pretty annoying when you have paid for the whole game but only get to see 2.5 periods .... Come on Panthers, if the opposition aren't ready for 7 pm, start without them ......... Delayed face offs should/will be a thing of the past. There is an Elite League ruling that all face offs should start on the advertised time (unless there is say breakdown on the road and the opposition are late). Sheffiled are very concerned about their own delayed face offs, which i think is due to the slowness of the box-office up there. I guess if there are further delayed face offs the clubs responsible will be fined. HL |
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Post by Rich on Oct 9, 2006 10:06:11 GMT
You cant blame belfast for being late saturday, they were on the ice well early!
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Post by wallflower on Oct 9, 2006 10:21:53 GMT
It's very upsetting to have to walk out on a game with ten minutes left - imagine doing that on Saturday...... or not be able to do something after the game that you'd planned to do. And to be honest it's not satisfactory - I'm going to email the club. Obviously late face-offs will happen from time to time due to exceptional circumstances - but it shouldn't be allowed to become the norm.  Come on Panthers, get it sorted please..... |
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Post by Lucy on Oct 9, 2006 11:12:35 GMT
If you email the club, I think this is the reply you will receive, as it is a quote from GM's page in the programme last week:-
......the 'show'will start at the publicised time. If, as is tonight's game, we're playing on a Saturday, then at 7 o'clock the home team will step onto the ice. After a skate and a photo or two and the national anthem we will have the huddles and the game will face off.
This means there's something to watch from the advertised time but it also means there is a few minutes grace for late arrivals too.
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Post by texpef on Oct 9, 2006 11:19:24 GMT
Phrase "cant please all the people all the time" springs to mind, not one of managements biggest fans but surely with 3000-4000+ people to cater for they cant be doing too badly if this is all we are moaning about?  |
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Post by spik on Oct 9, 2006 11:38:51 GMT
Yes GM did state that games should start on time.I think this is the right thing to aim for too.
one, as it is the stated time and two, other than obvious exceptable exceptions people arriving late (although the club have held things to accomodate) are responsible for that. Queues are likely and hopefully the staff are on the ball and it is thus queues unavoidable.
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Post by Helen B on Oct 9, 2006 11:48:49 GMT
As I understand it, the face off should be at the advertised time ie: 7pm, that is not when the 'show' starts. Therefore the introductions should be at 6.55. It's not advertised as the 'show starting at 7pm, it's advertised at f/o at 7pm. If it is the case that the show starts at 7pm then the advertised f/o should be 7.10pm.
Does that make sense?
fwiw: our games have been facing off on time as of late, f/o has been at the advertised time of 7pm, with the players coming on at 6.55.
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Post by latenightpsycho on Oct 9, 2006 11:49:32 GMT
If you email the club, I think this is the reply you will receive, as it is a quote from GM's page in the programme last week:- ......the 'show'will start at the publicised time. If, as is tonight's game, we're playing on a Saturday, then at 7 o'clock the home team will step onto the ice. After a skate and a photo or two and the national anthem we will have the huddles and the game will face off.
This means there's something to watch from the advertised time but it also means there is a few minutes grace for late arrivals too. Not sure GM's right about that. Football matches slated to start at 3pm do just that, the teams run out approx 5 to 3 to warm up/toss the coin/huddle etc. If a hockey match is slated to face-off at 7 then teams should be on the ice five minutes earlier to go through their pre-match niceities to enable the game to start promptly at 7. Common sense surely? |
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Post by dodit on Oct 9, 2006 12:10:21 GMT
I have had something like that a cvouple of years ago but im not complaining.
It was the mass brawl against sheffield. We only saw 2 periods because of all of the fighting becasue my dad had to be in leicester by 11 o'clock for work so we didnt see the come back from panthers to win 6-4 but i know what wallflower means by having to leave a game early because of something happening but obviously you cant blame this on the face off time or anything else i just wanted to bring this up into perspective.
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Post by twix on Oct 9, 2006 12:10:24 GMT
I'm not sure what difference 10 minutes really makes here anyway. After all if there are a lot of penalties called, the glass breaks, a player bleeds all over the ice, the game goes to OT and then penalty shots, all of these things could legitimatly extend the game by more than 10 minutes and often do.
I accept the point that the team must start on time if possible but complaining that because it started 10 minutes late meant leaving the game before the end this Saturday seems a little odd to me as the game finished in regulation and there weren't any of the often happening delays I've mentioned above. I would guess that your son will nearly always have to miss the end of games if his train times are really that tight!
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Post by sunbeam on Oct 9, 2006 12:14:21 GMT
Wonder if anyone else has been affected by Panthers games not starting on time? Advertised time is 7 pm but the last 2 games I've been to have been ten minutes late in starting. This means that my son (season ticket owner) has had to miss the last ten minutes of both games so that he can catch the last train back to Loughborough. This is pretty annoying when you have paid for the whole game but only get to see 2.5 periods .... Come on Panthers, if the opposition aren't ready for 7 pm, start without them ......... 10 mins of game time is equal to over 15 mins of actual time. So your son would still be missing the last few mins of the game. And that's assuming there's no serious injury, ice or plexi problem or the game doesn't go into overtime. Throw in more stoppages for ZT and you're looking at ending closer to 9:30pm than 9pm.. |
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Post by MP on Oct 9, 2006 13:12:37 GMT
As I understand it, the face off should be at the advertised time ie: 7pm, that is not when the 'show' starts. Therefore the introductions should be at 6.55. It's not advertised as the 'show starting at 7pm, it's advertised at f/o at 7pm. If it is the case that the show starts at 7pm then the advertised f/o should be 7.10pm. Does that make sense? Yes it does - it's what I'd expect to happen. I suspect Panthers are trying to be a bit cute and pay lip service to the EIHL stipulation for games to start on time whilst holding back the actual face off to cater for walk up ticket sales. I find the protracted pre-game announcements and presentations destroy any atmosphere that has built up prior to the team emerging onto the ice - get the game underway as soon as possible in my book. I think it was in Coventry where the teams sheets (complete with interminable sponsors!) were read out before the teams took to the ice - I thought that worked quite well. |
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Post by grumpyminer on Oct 9, 2006 13:17:50 GMT
So far this season, perhaps due to ZT and increased penalties or referees explanations or whatever, every period of hockey I have watched has taken 7 or 8 minutes longer in real time, than in previous seasons. A Saturday game last season was usually completed by 9:15 - 9:20 whereas this season its 9:40 - 9:45.
So it isn't just the late start causing the problem i'm afraid.
As for trains....Anyone like us, from the Mansfield area or further north, we don't even get the choice. Last train on the Robin Hood Line is 9:05.....oops sorry, slipped off topic there, but it is annoying for those of us who have to drive in, pay to park and can't have e beer with our hockey.
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Post by twix on Oct 9, 2006 14:09:00 GMT
As for trains....Anyone like us, from the Mansfield area or further north, we don't even get the choice. Last train on the Robin Hood Line is 9:05.....oops sorry, slipped off topic there, but it is annoying for those of us who have to drive in, pay to park and can't have e beer with our hockey. Personally I choose to drive for various reasons. However if you live in the Mansfield area and prefer not to drive in surely you could catch the rainbow 3* bus which runs every half an hour until midnight with an extra late one around 2.30am? |
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