Rule changes for football

[sunbeam]

What changes to the laws would you make?

Here's a big one for me:


Introduce ice hockey's offside rule. You could have a line painted about 30meters from the goal and that'd be the offside line. Same as hockey after that with the ball having to cross it first etc etc.

It works brilliantly in hockey. You could even have a hawkeye type thing to assess it like in tennis. It'd solve the offside farces that we currently have and also encourage good football.

[DoUrden]

Not keen on that but I want the old off side rule brought back! If you are off side when the ball is played then you are off side and play is stopped. None of this inactive-active player or 1st and 2nd phases. Or the new one of not bothering to put flag up untill after a player has ran 30yards thinking he was onside!

[sunbeam]

dourden said:

Not keen on that but I want the old off side rule brought back! If you are off side when the ball is played then you are off side and play is stopped. None of this inactive-active player or 1st and 2nd phases. Or the new one of not bothering to put flag up untill after a player has ran 30yards thinking he was onside!

Why not just have the hockey rule?

Problem with the current/old way is that you need the linesman to be a star official. The hockey way makes it easy for the officals, players and fans to follow.


Job done.

Football could learn a lot from hockey (sin-bins, 60 minute game clock, giving points for assists, offside and that's all i can think off!).

[DoUrden]

But in Hockey the Puck always has to be first thing over the line. How would that work in football for free kicks? You wouldn't be able to cross the ball into the box from free kicks for starters. Would kill counter attacks using long balls too.

[dodit]

Having that as a rule in football would just be ridiculous. Yeah it works in hockey but not in football.

Something totally off thread but the owner of montreal canadiens wants to buy liverpool.

[Alf Garnett]

Video replays.

Not for every single decision but in major decisions.
I.E Did the ball totally cross the line or not.

[Ovechkin8]

Goal judges i reckon would be a good option for football.

[newham]

panther4lyf said:

Goal judges i reckon would be a good option for football.

On the occasion that a did it/didn't it cross the line moment happens, yeh they would but as it is, it only happens once a season if that.

Sunbeam, i'm sick of people changing our sport as it is. Introducing a hockey offside system would be awful. For one, you'd have goal-hanging 30 yards out, for two it'd just be rubbish

I'm with durden, go back to the old offside rule.

[Doughnut]

A video ref, a game clock that means something (or even a clock that's linked to the ref's watch), and a sin-bin (there's too much in football that needs more than a free kick but less than a yellow/red).

[dodit]

Just watching the man u game and i agree about the goal line camara thing. Man u had a clear goal hit off the line when it was perfectly over the line.

[newham]

And they'll have one go their way in a few weeks time. It always evens itself out and it makes for decent viewing. Where would the fun be if the ref got it right every time? Video replays would be another nail in the coffin of football.

[Doughnut]

newham said:

And they'll have one go their way in a few weeks time. It always evens itself out and it makes for decent viewing.

That's the worst reason for not introducing a video ref I've ever heard.

newham said:

Where would the fun be if the ref got it right every time? Video replays would be another nail in the coffin of football.

That's the second.

It hasn't been a nail in the coffin of any other sport that's introduced it so why would it be any worse for football?

[sunbeam]

newham said:

And they'll have one go their way in a few weeks time. It always evens itself out and it makes for decent viewing. Where would the fun be if the ref got it right every time? Video replays would be another nail in the coffin of football.

You mean like it evened itself out for Bolton when they scored a goal v Everton that wasn't given? If it had Bolton would've stayed up and Everton would've gone down.

Your attitude is a Luddite one. Football has constantly changed. Let's get rid of goal nets too if we want to go back to how it was. The back-pass change has been excellent for football.

The offside line is only 30meters out. If you pump a long ball on the counter attack inside4 that zone it’d be snapped up by the keeper anyway. If a move breaks down the counter attack is never pumped long. The first pass normally goes to a guy well inside his own half who breaks from there.

dourden said:

But in Hockey the Puck always has to be first thing over the line. How would that work in football for free kicks? You wouldn't be able to cross the ball into the box from free kicks for starters. Would kill counter attacks using long balls too.

Yesterday's Arsenal game was a good example. When Bolton were pumping it into the box they were within 30 meters of the goal. To whip it in with effect you need the right angle so generally you want to cross it in from just outside the box. If you're further out then that then you'll play it forward and build the attack.

dodit said:

Having that as a rule in football would just be ridiculous. Yeah it works in hockey but not in football.

Something totally off thread but the owner of montreal canadiens wants to buy liverpool.

How do you know? Would it not be a good idea to trial it? Johnston Paints trophy for example?

newham said:

panther4lyf said:

Goal judges i reckon would be a good option for football.

On the occasion that a did it/didn't it cross the line moment happens, yeh they would but as it is, it only happens once a season if that.

Sunbeam, i'm sick of people changing our sport as it is. Introducing a hockey offside system would be awful. For one, you'd have goal-hanging 30 yards out, for two it'd just be rubbish

I'm with durden, go back to the old offside rule.

The reason they scrapped the old rule was because it didn't work well. Bring it back and within weeks people would be whinging that people were having goals ruled out when they should not be because so and so was having no affect on the play.

And standingn 30 meters out is going to be not much good if the defender stand 25 meters out.

[KimThePanther]

One thing I do think football should steal from hockey is the delayed penalty rule. When a player commits a foul the opposition team should retain possesion of the ball until it goes out of play/is touched by a member of penalised team. That would stop the referee having to apply advantage at his own discretion and gives the non-penalised team a second chance if the play fizzles out on a delayed free kick.

[Luca Toni]

I've never understood the offside rule in the sense that it asks an official (i.e. a person) to look in two places AT THE SAME TIME. Am I the only person sensible enough to realise that often this will be physically impossible? Adopting the ice hockey rule would solve this problem whilst keeping the principle of offside alive in football. But it will never happen. We are much more likely to get camera assistance with the current framework.

[loonypeter]

Dont like the offside line idea, but agree that offside needs to be simplified for everyones sake.

Id like to see video technology brought in to assist with important decisions but apparantly FIFA may not allow it because it is not a rule change that can be enforced across all levels of the game (eg rarely sufficient camera's at conferance games)

Id also like to see throw ins and free kicks taken from where they should be taken! it really annoys me to see players taking an unfair advantage by placing the ball where they prefer at set plays (drogba vs newcastle was a fine example of this)

Id like to see more action taken against players who dive. Retrospective bans would solve this problem pretty quickly i should think!

Finally the FA and FIFA should stop taking the mick with players getting away with violent conduct. Even if the referee did see it and/or award a yellow card, it doesnt mean a player should get away with what they did just because the referee got it wrong.