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Post by belak on Aug 16, 2006 14:47:36 GMT
With their FIFTH bid for the Sky Blues' striker! Can't say it'll give a good message to the Cov faithful about promotion football365.com
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Post by newham on Aug 16, 2006 16:06:05 GMT
Duff goes for £5m, McSheffrey goes for 4?
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Post by Shorty on Aug 16, 2006 16:36:34 GMT
Money they got from Heskey. Still a lot though.
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Post by belak on Aug 16, 2006 16:56:27 GMT
Duff goes for £5m, McSheffrey goes for 4? What does Abramovich care if he loses money on players being transfered out? He's a billionaire for Heaven's sake! Coventry on the other hand are a Championship club, and quite rightly they held out for a nice big sum, especially as they developed the player, meaning optimum profit. Players are only worth what clubs are willing to pay for them, not what fans think they are.
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Post by lukethomas on Aug 16, 2006 18:54:31 GMT
Absolutely shocking signing if you ask me (im a blue nose!) We have 4 quality strikers in Bendtner, Forsell, DJ Campbell and Cameron Jerome. Think Brucey could be giving himself a bit of a headache here! We need something different in the centre of the park, not up top. We have a fragile midfield with Larsson, Dunn and Damien Johnson not the biggest, physical players ever. I would of prefered 4 - 5 million going on a solid midfielder. But we shall see!
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Post by jaycourtney on Aug 16, 2006 19:48:50 GMT
I've been very critical on bruces transfers, and still am I think their strike force is very good for the championsip, I think they need a right back and a holding player in the middle of the park, and an attacking left winger
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Post by sunbeam on Aug 17, 2006 9:00:17 GMT
Absolutely shocking signing if you ask me (im a blue nose!) We have 4 quality strikers in Bendtner, Forsell, DJ Campbell and Cameron Jerome. Think Brucey could be giving himself a bit of a headache here! We need something different in the centre of the park, not up top. We have a fragile midfield with Larsson, Dunn and Damien Johnson not the biggest, physical players ever. I would of prefered 4 - 5 million going on a solid midfielder. But we shall see! Your best players are Arsenal kids. Like Arsenal don't have enough youngsters coming through!
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Post by newham on Aug 17, 2006 11:19:09 GMT
Duff goes for £5m, McSheffrey goes for 4? What does Abramovich care if he loses money on players being transfered out? He's a billionaire for Heaven's sake! Coventry on the other hand are a Championship club, and quite rightly they held out for a nice big sum, especially as they developed the player, meaning optimum profit. Players are only worth what clubs are willing to pay for them, not what fans think they are. my point is that in todays climate, McSheffrey aint worth £4m!!!
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Post by belak on Aug 18, 2006 14:07:51 GMT
What does Abramovich care if he loses money on players being transfered out? He's a billionaire for Heaven's sake! Coventry on the other hand are a Championship club, and quite rightly they held out for a nice big sum, especially as they developed the player, meaning optimum profit. Players are only worth what clubs are willing to pay for them, not what fans think they are. my point is that in todays climate, McSheffrey aint worth £4m!!! In your opinion.
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Post by newham on Aug 18, 2006 16:59:15 GMT
Yes, in my opinion he aint worth 5 million. If Duff is only worth £5m to Chelsea, McSheffrey aint worth £4m. Sure, Duff may have gone for less than his market value but taking him out of it, there is no way that Mc is worth the same as Dawson.
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Post by belak on Aug 18, 2006 17:20:32 GMT
Yes, in my opinion he aint worth 5 million. If Duff is only worth £5m to Chelsea, McSheffrey aint worth £4m. Sure, Duff may have gone for less than his market value but taking him out of it, there is no way that Mc is worth the same as Dawson. But players' prices fluctuate and don't always reflect their true worth. Had Birmingham been a Premiership side, I doubt McSheffrey would have gone for £4m, but because Brum & Cov are divisional rivals, Cov have to make it worth their while selling him in the first place. It makes no difference what Michael Dawson cost Spurs, as Birmingham have needed a striker capable of scoring 20 goals or so for a few seasons now. It cost them their Premiership status last year, and this seasson they have Bendtner until January 2007, Campbell is a decent prospect, Jerome's a good player but Forsell seems to have fogotten he's a goal scorer. If the transfer market made sense, Wigan wouldn't have paid Brum £5.5m for Heskey!
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Post by newham on Aug 18, 2006 17:24:53 GMT
But players' prices fluctuate and don't always reflect their true worth. Had Birmingham been a Premiership side, I doubt McSheffrey would have gone for £4m, but because Brum & Cov are divisional rivals, Cov have to make it worth their while selling him in the first place. No chance. If Brum had been a prem side he'd have gone for the same if not more, Cov would have known they'd have had more available to spend. It doesn't work like the NHL whereas teams don't like trading inter-conference. It makes no difference what Michael Dawson cost Spurs, as Birmingham have needed a striker capable of scoring 20 goals or so for a few seasons now. It cost them their Premiership status last year, and this seasson they have Bendtner until January 2007, Campbell is a decent prospect, Jerome's a good player but Forsell seems to have fogotten he's a goal scorer. Of course it makes a difference, Dawson was a young talented player moving on to bigger things, similar to McSheffrey. As for the 20 goals thing, if i wanted that then i wouldn't have gone for him. He's not scored 20 goals in his career yet and whilst he probably will at some point, i wouldn't say that i'd risk £4m on a striker who's not even been at the top of the charts in the Championship. I'd spend it on someone who has. If the transfer market made sense, Wigan wouldn't have paid Brum £5.5m for Heskey! Whoever said that made sense?
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Post by belak on Aug 18, 2006 18:48:47 GMT
As for the 20 goals thing, if i wanted that then i wouldn't have gone for him. He's not scored 20 goals in his career yet and whilst he probably will at some point, i wouldn't say that i'd risk £4m on a striker who's not even been at the top of the charts in the Championship. I'd spend it on someone who has. McSheffrey scored 17 goals last season, 15 of them in the Championship and he assisted on 7 Sky Blues goals. Besides, I didn't state 20 as a sum per se, I said " 20 goals or so," ie around the 20 goal mark. As for him not being worth £4m, that's your opinion, but I think Brum have got a player who can score and set up goals for his team mates.
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Post by Alf Garnett on Aug 18, 2006 20:57:35 GMT
The thing here is this. If McSheffery scores enough goals and contributes to Brum returning to the Premier league then £4 million would be seen as an astute gamble. if not then they're still in profit from selling Heskey and Pennant.
I think it is a good transfer for Brum, certainly better than Cov's half of the bargain.
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Post by sunbeam on Aug 19, 2006 12:15:55 GMT
The thing here is this. If McSheffery scores enough goals and contributes to Brum returning to the Premier league then £4 million would be seen as an astute gamble. if not then they're still in profit from selling Heskey and Pennant. I think it is a good transfer for Brum, certainly better than Cov's half of the bargain. Certainly agree with the first statement. Isn't the tranx fee £2.5m rising to £4m? Ultimately a player is worth what someone is willing to pay. Sir Brian thought Stan was worth £1.75m but not £2m. We ended up paying £2.9m. He was worth every penny and then some.
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Post by roygbiv on Dec 13, 2006 14:31:33 GMT
McSheffrey's scored 12 goals so far this season, looks like money well spent by Brum
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Post by newham on Dec 13, 2006 20:28:19 GMT
Good hat-trick at the weekend but still not convinced whether he's worth £4m.
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Post by Alf Garnett on Dec 17, 2006 21:45:18 GMT
Brum sit atop the championship as Santa is getting his house in order.
Brum were play off material at best before McSheffery arrived and are now Title contenders. Not entirely down to Gary McSheffery but he has to be a contributory factor. A gamble that looks astute at the moment if you ask me.
FWIW Dan I'll bet there's a few Coventry fans think GM wasn't worth £4m either.
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