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Post by Heanor Lair on Aug 19, 2006 11:33:28 GMT
So Shuff have
Tessier, Ricci, Sutter.
Lots of celebrations from up the road, but lets look at the facts:
Tessier:
We have Stevens - played 3 season is the 2nd Tier in Germany 178 games, 175 points. Tessier played one season in the 2nd Tier of the German league 57 games, 48 points.
Stevens had 3 seasons with the Giants in the ISL 121 games 95 points - a good return for a guy in a then rookie team to the ISL.
Tessier did 25 games 36 points iun the EIHL (inferior to the ISL).
Oh did I mention Stevens stays loyal (average 3 seasons a club) to his team. Tessier....
Ricci:
Solid stay at home D-man, . We have Mike Rees. also stay at home man. Not much between them.
Sutter:
Well what do you say. Welch booted out (Coventry figures: 41 games 46 points), Sutter for Nottingham: 37 games 31 points), has only once in his career exceeded a point a game over a season.
We have Petricko,played 57 points 62). Indeed exceeded a point a game whilst at Bracknell in the Cross over games.
Tessier - team player? I'll let you make a judgment, Indeed Sutter a team player - hmmm? I would say that Ricci was the only real team player of the 3.
The three guys I've mentioned: Team players through and through, indeed thts one of the reasons Ellis signed them.
Blaisdall, sorry I mean Mastos, may wax lyrically about these ex Panthers, but quietly, with no fuss, I firmly believe Mike Ellis has signed 'replacements' who IMHO exceed what we originally had.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2006 11:35:20 GMT
No disrespect meant HL but what's the point starting another thread like this?
Let's worry about the Panthers and not who the Steelers are recruiting, all will be resolved by next April anyway!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2006 11:37:16 GMT
So Shuff have Tessier, Ricci, Sutter. Lots of celebrations from up the road, but lets look at the facts: Tessier: We have Stevens - played 3 season is the 2nd Tier in Germany 178 games, 175 points. Tessier played one season in the 2nd Tier of the German league 57 games, 48 points. Stevens had 3 seasons with the Giants in the ISL 121 games 95 points - a good return for a guy in a then rookie team to the ISL. Tessier did 25 games 36 points iun the EIHL (inferior to the ISL). Oh did I mention Stevens stays loyal (average 3 seasons a club) to his team. Tessier.... Ricci: Solid stay at home D-man, . We have Mike Rees. also stay at home man. Not much between them. Sutter: Well what do you say. Welch booted out (Coventry figures: 41 games 46 points), Sutter for Nottingham: 37 games 31 points), has only once in his career exceeded a point a game over a season. We have Petricko,played 57 points 62). Indeed exceeded a point a game whilst at Bracknell in the Cross over games. Tessier - team player? I'll let you make a judgment, Indeed Sutter a team player - hmmm? I would say that Ricci was the only real team player of the 3. The three guys I've mentioned: Team players through and through, indeed thts one of the reasons Ellis signed them. Blaisdall, sorry I mean Mastos, may wax lyrically about these ex Panthers, but quietly, with no fuss, I firmly believe Mike Ellis has signed 'replacements' who IMHO exceed what we originally had. Regards HL Top post HL, i beleive the same, Stevens has hardly been mentioned which has suprised me. Now HL, post this on Steeltalk and watch all the replies come flying back ;D |
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Post by Shaggy on Aug 19, 2006 11:44:43 GMT
No disrespect meant HL but what's the point starting another thread like this? Let's worry about the Panthers and not who the Steelers are recruiting, all will be resolved by next April anyway! Well said. You may be correct in your evaluation, HL...... but does it really matter? We have our team, they're getting theirs.... and we'll find out soon enough who's better who's best! ;D |
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Post by Heanor Lair on Aug 19, 2006 11:46:32 GMT
No disrespect meant HL but what's the point starting another thread like this? Let's worry about the Panthers and not who the Steelers are recruiting, all will be resolved by next April anyway! The idea was to cut through the hype and nonsense and just put a few facts and figures down. For sure stats and damn lies come to mind, but I think the comparrison is fair and gives another prespective to the picture. Regards HL |
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Post by Heanor Lair on Aug 19, 2006 11:47:33 GMT
So Shuff have Tessier, Ricci, Sutter. Lots of celebrations from up the road, but lets look at the facts: Tessier: We have Stevens - played 3 season is the 2nd Tier in Germany 178 games, 175 points. Tessier played one season in the 2nd Tier of the German league 57 games, 48 points. Stevens had 3 seasons with the Giants in the ISL 121 games 95 points - a good return for a guy in a then rookie team to the ISL. Tessier did 25 games 36 points iun the EIHL (inferior to the ISL). Oh did I mention Stevens stays loyal (average 3 seasons a club) to his team. Tessier.... Ricci: Solid stay at home D-man, . We have Mike Rees. also stay at home man. Not much between them. Sutter: Well what do you say. Welch booted out (Coventry figures: 41 games 46 points), Sutter for Nottingham: 37 games 31 points), has only once in his career exceeded a point a game over a season. We have Petricko,played 57 points 62). Indeed exceeded a point a game whilst at Bracknell in the Cross over games. Tessier - team player? I'll let you make a judgment, Indeed Sutter a team player - hmmm? I would say that Ricci was the only real team player of the 3. The three guys I've mentioned: Team players through and through, indeed thts one of the reasons Ellis signed them. Blaisdall, sorry I mean Mastos, may wax lyrically about these ex Panthers, but quietly, with no fuss, I firmly believe Mike Ellis has signed 'replacements' who IMHO exceed what we originally had. Regards HL Top post HL, i beleive the same, Stevens has hardly been mentioned which has suprised me. Now HL, post this on Steeltalk and watch all the replies come flying back ;D They don't like me anymore on SteelTalk  |
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Post by Shaggy on Aug 19, 2006 11:47:38 GMT
Now HL, post this on Steeltalk and watch all the replies come flying back ;D Ahhh.... why disturb them? (they're disturbed enough already....   ) |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2006 11:50:59 GMT
Now HL, post this on Steeltalk and watch all the replies come flying back ;D Ahhh.... why disturb them? (they're disturbed enough already.... ) True, it seems quite quiet on their forum, i wonder if they ve gone down the pub to celebrate their latest aquisition ;D ;D |
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Post by Heanor Lair on Aug 19, 2006 11:57:27 GMT
Ahhh.... why disturb them? (they're disturbed enough already.... ) True, it seems quite quiet on their forum, i wonder if they ve gone down the pub to celebrate their latest aquisition ;D ;D Nah gone to make funeral arrangements for the team, because it falling apart ;D |
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Post by Shorty on Aug 19, 2006 12:07:35 GMT
The whole forum will go into meltdown again soon when a load of Steelers decide to come posting on here. The amount of stuff that you pair post on Steelers forum is far worse than a lot come back on here with. You are just sending an open invitation to them.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2006 12:11:33 GMT
The whole forum will go into meltdown again soon when a load of Steelers decide to come posting on here. The amount of stuff that you pair post on Steelers forum is far worse than a lot come back on here with. You are just sending an open invitation to them. The thing is shorty, if i think one of their players are crap, or chose to give opinions. i ll say it to their faces, not just behind a PC, remember not once am i abusive to anyone, most of what i say is light hearted so relax., (scuff knows where im coming from) ;D |
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Post by Doom on Aug 19, 2006 13:24:38 GMT
So Shuff have Tessier, Ricci, Sutter. Lots of celebrations from up the road, but lets look at the facts: Tessier: We have Stevens - played 3 season is the 2nd Tier in Germany 178 games, 175 points. Tessier played one season in the 2nd Tier of the German league 57 games, 48 points. Stevens had 3 seasons with the Giants in the ISL 121 games 95 points - a good return for a guy in a then rookie team to the ISL. Tessier did 25 games 36 points iun the EIHL (inferior to the ISL). Oh did I mention Stevens stays loyal (average 3 seasons a club) to his team. Tessier.... Ricci: Solid stay at home D-man, . We have Mike Rees. also stay at home man. Not much between them. Sutter: Well what do you say. Welch booted out (Coventry figures: 41 games 46 points), Sutter for Nottingham: 37 games 31 points), has only once in his career exceeded a point a game over a season. We have Petricko,played 57 points 62). Indeed exceeded a point a game whilst at Bracknell in the Cross over games. Tessier - team player? I'll let you make a judgment, Indeed Sutter a team player - hmmm? I would say that Ricci was the only real team player of the 3. The three guys I've mentioned: Team players through and through, indeed thts one of the reasons Ellis signed them. Blaisdall, sorry I mean Mastos, may wax lyrically about these ex Panthers, but quietly, with no fuss, I firmly believe Mike Ellis has signed 'replacements' who IMHO exceed what we originally had. Regards HL Are there only Sheffield and Nottingham in the EIHL these days?  I would have thought you're better comparing your roster with either Coventry or Belfast, because they'll probably be the 2 teams you need to finish ahead of if you want to win the league. Looking at all the rosters I can see Sheffield and Nottingham battling it out for 3rd and 4th place. I think your focus is in the wrong area HL  Regards Doom |
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Post by Heanor Lair on Aug 19, 2006 14:42:28 GMT
So Shuff have Tessier, Ricci, Sutter. Lots of celebrations from up the road, but lets look at the facts: Tessier: We have Stevens - played 3 season is the 2nd Tier in Germany 178 games, 175 points. Tessier played one season in the 2nd Tier of the German league 57 games, 48 points. Stevens had 3 seasons with the Giants in the ISL 121 games 95 points - a good return for a guy in a then rookie team to the ISL. Tessier did 25 games 36 points iun the EIHL (inferior to the ISL). Oh did I mention Stevens stays loyal (average 3 seasons a club) to his team. Tessier.... Ricci: Solid stay at home D-man, . We have Mike Rees. also stay at home man. Not much between them. Sutter: Well what do you say. Welch booted out (Coventry figures: 41 games 46 points), Sutter for Nottingham: 37 games 31 points), has only once in his career exceeded a point a game over a season. We have Petricko,played 57 points 62). Indeed exceeded a point a game whilst at Bracknell in the Cross over games. Tessier - team player? I'll let you make a judgment, Indeed Sutter a team player - hmmm? I would say that Ricci was the only real team player of the 3. The three guys I've mentioned: Team players through and through, indeed thts one of the reasons Ellis signed them. Blaisdall, sorry I mean Mastos, may wax lyrically about these ex Panthers, but quietly, with no fuss, I firmly believe Mike Ellis has signed 'replacements' who IMHO exceed what we originally had. Regards HL Are there only Sheffield and Nottingham in the EIHL these days? I would have thought you're better comparing your roster with either Coventry or Belfast, because they'll probably be the 2 teams you need to finish ahead of if you want to win the league. Looking at all the rosters I can see Sheffield and Nottingham battling it out for 3rd and 4th place. I think your focus is in the wrong area HL Regards Doom Doom I was only using the comparison in the ex Panthers -Sheffield debate(s) rather than an EIHL overall debate. As for Belfast and Coventry, I'm going to disagree with you me friend. For sure Coventry look as though they have a 2 decent lines, but I don't think the 3rd line is anything to write home about. I'm not particularly thrilled with their D-outfit either. Belfast. To be honest, I think they will struggle. Theres a number ofhigh class players in the team, but the trouble they areindividuals. Dutes can't be considerd a team-player, I doubt Awada will show the same form. Belfast have a lot of 'expensive' eggs in one basket. I would suggest the remainder of thier roster will be made up of make-weights, which I don't think will see them through the season. I ceratinly believe that Shuff will finish above Belfast, and will easily compete with Coventry. My team. Lets just say I'm looking forward to the season immensly Regards HL
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Post by cc77 on Aug 19, 2006 17:33:00 GMT
Out of the 3 ex- Panthers that have gone up the M1, the only one that i wish wasn`t pulling on a steelers shirt is Scott Ricci.
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Post by DaveE on Aug 19, 2006 17:36:56 GMT
Out of the 3 ex- Panthers that have gone up the M1, the only one that i wish wasn`t pulling on a steelers shirt is Scott Ricci. Agreed. They are welcome to Sutter any day of the week  Tessier was a bit of an annoyance, but I won't be losing sleep over it anyway |
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Post by Heanor Lair on Aug 19, 2006 23:02:31 GMT
The whole forum will go into meltdown again soon when a load of Steelers decide to come posting on here. The amount of stuff that you pair post on Steelers forum is far worse than a lot come back on here with. You are just sending an open invitation to them. The thing is shorty, if i think one of their players are crap, or chose to give opinions. i ll say it to their faces, not just behind a PC, remember not once am i abusive to anyone, most of what i say is light hearted so relax., (scuff knows where im coming from) ;D Me too pidge, the abuse I get from the likes of Stewart, Scuff,Hitchy, and the other 'owd gits when I'm in Block 218 is nothing short of disgraceful ;D ;D THose who know me (including Simmsey and Uncle Bob P), know there ios alot of toung in cheek stuff. Hell if we cant have alaugh in our leisure time, there summat wrong with the world! Regards HL |
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Post by John88 on Aug 19, 2006 23:58:58 GMT
I agree with Doom.
Whilst we are all arguing about who has better fans, a better team and larger fathers, another team in the league will capture the title.
Why ? Cos on Saturday, all the players put their heart and soul into the game against Sheffield and we win 2 points. On Sunday, we travel to Basingstoke and get stuffed 4-1. Happens every year because the rivalry is hyped up so much.
FWIW, Steelers putting together a team made up of 3 teams who were pretty rubbish last year (Sheffield, Nottingham and Cardiff) isn't going to pull up any trees.
Panthers - solid yes but no real quality. You can't expect 3 players to score all the points (Nelson, Stevens and McAslan).
If Nottingham and Sheffield get a trophy between them, it will have been a good season in our area judging by the last few years!!
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Post by NickThePanther44 on Aug 20, 2006 9:47:14 GMT
only one id disagree with is Ricci, far better than Rees imo
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2006 9:52:38 GMT
How can any panther say the only one you care about is Ricci - WHAT UTTER NONSENSE!
Let's not forget this 'Tessier' guy IS the same player you lot were wetting yourselves over last season...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2006 9:53:26 GMT
BTW - attached are some quotes I got way back when Tessier just left you - Posted by .... Well.... let's just say some experienced posters ;-)
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Post by Shaggy on Aug 20, 2006 10:02:23 GMT
Panthers - solid yes but no real quality. You can't expect 3 players to score all the points (Nelson, Stevens and McAslan). Don't think anybody is expecting those three to "score all the points" or even anything near it. After all:- - Matus Petricko - 8th highest ponts scorer in the EIHL last season with 23+38 - David Clarke - had a bad year last season with 14+13 (injuries and MWB?) but 9th highest league scorer the previous season with 31+30 (joint 3rd highest goalscorer) - At least 3 other players who should comfortably be able to chip in with 15-20 goals, maybe more... Krajicek, Simoes & Emersic - And quite frankly, I expect that we're likely to get more out of the younger Brits as well than last year - Myers (10), Cooke (4), Moran (2). If (as I suspect) Ellis mixes the lines right, we're going to have scoring threats on all 3 lines... no breathers for the opposition here, it will hopefully be pressure on them at all times. That kind of thing is a points multiplier... |
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Post by DoUrden on Aug 20, 2006 10:45:25 GMT
THose who know me (including Simmsey and Uncle Bob P), know there ios alot of toung in cheek stuff. Regards HL Maybe so. But lots that don't will just see your posts as being a troll and will lead to them comming on here and trolling back. And then all hell breaks loose again so locking this before it gets any worse! |
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Tessier was a bit of an annoyance, but I won't be losing sleep over it anyway