Penguins: 4 cities lined up for ailing franchise

[roygbiv]

Kansas City, Oklahoma, Portland or maybe even Houston

Where will the Pens land?

If the Pens do move to Kansas, they'll play in the divine looking Sprint Center. Lovely building!

www.sprintcenter.com

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What a fantastic looking arena.

I understand Seattle want to set up a franchise too.

[roygbiv]

Ironic that the team have future stars in Crosby, Malkin, Stall & Fleury and yet that might not be enough to keep them in Pittsburgh.

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roygbiv said:

Ironic that the team have future stars in Crosby, Malkin, Stall & Fleury and yet that might not be enough to keep them in Pittsburgh.

well after this year, its doubtful pittsburgh will have both Crosby AND staal, they are on their second year of being rookies and after this can command more than 500k per season, the pens won t be able to keep them, hopefully we can nick one of them ;D

[roygbiv]

pidge said:

roygbiv said:

Ironic that the team have future stars in Crosby, Malkin, Stall & Fleury and yet that might not be enough to keep them in Pittsburgh.

well after this year, its doubtful pittsburgh will have both Crosby AND staal, they are on their second year of being rookies and after this can command more than 500k per season, the pens won t be able to keep them, hopefully we can nick one of them ;D

Yeah there's no way that those four players will be Penguins in the next 5 seasons, even if the team remain in Pennsylvania.

I'd be ecstatic with any one of them on the Leaf roster, but it'll never happen.

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5 years ........ more like 2/3 tops.

Crosby will soon be very overpaid just like the $50 million 4 year deal we once signed Federov to.

Malkin will interest the wings in the future due to him being Russian (and we like our russians )

[roygbiv]

pidge said:

5 years ........ more like 2/3 tops.

Crosby will soon be very overpaid just like the $50 million 4 year deal we once signed Federov to.

Malkin will interest the wings in the future due to him being Russian (and we like our russians )

Just think, if you'd have let Sergei go to the 'Canes, you'd have got 5 1st rounders in return!

As for Russian players, we've had decent ex-Soviet bloc players. Yushkevich & Berezin were great additions, and Ponikarovsky has been a revelation considering no one knew anything about him when he was drafted.

I'm still saddened to think what may have become of Antropov had he not suffered so many injuries. He's still a good player but I don't think he'll ever be able to justify being taken#10 overall in 1998.

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roygbiv said:

pidge said:

5 years ........ more like 2/3 tops.

Crosby will soon be very overpaid just like the $50 million 4 year deal we once signed Federov to.

Malkin will interest the wings in the future due to him being Russian (and we like our russians )

Just think, if you'd have let Sergei go to the 'Canes, you'd have got 5 1st rounders in return!

As for Russian players, we've had decent ex-Soviet bloc players. Yushkevich & Berezin were great additions, and Ponikarovsky has been a revelation considering no one knew anything about him when he was drafted.

I'm still saddened to think what may have become of Antropov had he not suffered so many injuries. He's still a good player but I don't think he'll ever be able to justify being taken#10 overall in 1998.

Maybe not, hey we have the king of drafting ( a.k.a Jim Dellevano ) Also the guy responisible for taking a certain no 19 4th overall in 1983

we ve had the famous russian 5 unit, plus taking datysuk 100 something overall and Zats 200 something overall ;D

[roygbiv]

Datsyuk was 171 & Zetterberg was 210 <different draft days though> but very good pick ups considering they were in so deep.

[newham]

Kim Johnsson (can never spell his name) was a tenth round pick wasn't he? We've missed him this year.

I think they'll go to Kansas. If they do, they get part-ownership of the arena don't they?

[roygbiv]

newham said:

Kim Johnsson (can never spell his name) was a tenth round pick wasn't he? We've missed him this year.

Johnsson was drafted by the Rangers, 11 #286 overall 1994, so Philadelphia don't get credit for him



My personal favourite for drafting deep is Tomas Kaberle, drafted 8 204th overall 1996.

Absolute freakin' steal

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roygbiv said:

newham said:

Kim Johnsson (can never spell his name) was a tenth round pick wasn't he? We've missed him this year.

Johnsson was drafted by the Rangers, 11 #286 overall 1994, so Philadelphia don't get credit for him



My personal favourite for drafting deep is Tomas Kaberle, drafted 8 204th overall 1996.

Absolute freakin' steal

or what about superstar Nikki lidstrom drafted in the 4th round 53rd overall

[roygbiv]

pidge said:

roygbiv said:

Johnsson was drafted by the Rangers, 11 #286 overall 1994, so Philadelphia don't get credit for him



My personal favourite for drafting deep is Tomas Kaberle, drafted 8 204th overall 1996.

Absolute freakin' steal

or what about superstar Nikki lidstrom drafted in the 4th round 53rd overall

Chicago gets credit for this one...

Dominik Hasek, 10 #199 overall 1983

Just a shame it took 7 years for him to get to North America!

[jaycourtney]

Nabokov 9th rounder in the 94 draft

[andyd]

No chance of the Pens going to the State of Kansas!

Kansas City yes but the metropolitan part of the city where the Sprint Centre will be is in Missouri! ;D

[newham]

roygbiv said:

newham said:

Kim Johnsson (can never spell his name) was a tenth round pick wasn't he? We've missed him this year.

Johnsson was drafted by the Rangers, 11 #286 overall 1994, so Philadelphia don't get credit for him



My personal favourite for drafting deep is Tomas Kaberle, drafted 8 204th overall 1996.

Absolute freakin' steal

Aye, i'm aware we didn't draft him but still, that's a hell of a pick so low down.

[sawchuk]

I saw on a Canadian site the other day an article that claimed the Penguins would be staying in Pittsburgh which is good news.

They'll have a large chunk of wage cap free, so will be able to add some depth to their roster. If they manage to keep Malkin & Co they'll do some damage in the future for sure.

[newham]

In a couple of years there will be no chance of keeping Malkin, Staal and Crosby together at Pittsburgh.

[sawchuk]

newham said:

In a couple of years there will be no chance of keeping Malkin, Staal and Crosby together at Pittsburgh.

Not necessarily, as when it comes to giving Crosby & Co new contracts, you're assuming that they'll immediately want out of Pittsburgh. Pidge made reference to a ludicrous contract that the Wings committed too with Fedorov, but that isn't going to happen in the era of salary cap.

Even if he does opt to not sign a new deal with the team, trading Croby will bring a mass of talent to the Pens, more than the Nords got with the trade of Lindros.

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Not necessarily, as when it comes to giving Crosby & Co new contracts, you're assuming that they'll immediately want out of Pittsburgh. Pidge made reference to a ludicrous contract that the Wings committed too with Fedorov, but that isn't going to happen in the era of salary cap.

Thats right, realistically to balance the cap out throughout 20 guys the highest earner should be on no more than 5 million a year especially now theres a cap.(but i know there is) I think its going upto 44 million next year ?

[sawchuk]

pidge said:

Not necessarily, as when it comes to giving Crosby & Co new contracts, you're assuming that they'll immediately want out of Pittsburgh. Pidge made reference to a ludicrous contract that the Wings committed too with Fedorov, but that isn't going to happen in the era of salary cap.

Thats right, realistically to balance the cap out throughout 20 guys the highest earner should be on no more than 5 million a year especially now theres a cap.(but i know there is) I think its going upto 44 million next year ?

Yes I think you're right Ian, $44m as of next year. Crosby will no doubt want to be the franchise poster boy, and good luck to him, but whether he wants a silly contract is another thing.

McCabe is on $7m per season with Toronto, so I think Crosby would be perfectly justified in asking for up to that amount when it's contract time.

[mattscold]

sawchuk said:

pidge said:

Thats right, realistically to balance the cap out throughout 20 guys the highest earner should be on no more than 5 million a year especially now theres a cap.(but i know there is) I think its going upto 44 million next year ?

Yes I think you're right Ian, $44m as of next year. Crosby will no doubt want to be the franchise poster boy, and good luck to him, but whether he wants a silly contract is another thing.

McCabe is on $7m per season with Toronto, so I think Crosby would be perfectly justified in asking for up to that amount when it's contract time.

Brad Richards is the highest earner in the NHL and he's no Crosby, not by a long stretch of the imagination (as to what hes on though cant remember just remember reading it in hockey news)

[sawchuk]

mattscold said:

sawchuk said:

Yes I think you're right Ian, $44m as of next year. Crosby will no doubt want to be the franchise poster boy, and good luck to him, but whether he wants a silly contract is another thing.

McCabe is on $7m per season with Toronto, so I think Crosby would be perfectly justified in asking for up to that amount when it's contract time.

Brad Richards is the highest earner in the NHL and he's no Crosby, not by a long stretch of the imagination (as to what hes on though cant remember just remember reading it in hockey news)

Jagr is on more than Richards, as he's pulling in $8.36 million compared to the $7.8m of the Bolts' man. Bryan McCabe is over paid considering richards has one Stanley cup ring, a Lady Byng & Conn Smythe trophy.

[newham]

sawchuk said:

newham said:

In a couple of years there will be no chance of keeping Malkin, Staal and Crosby together at Pittsburgh.

Not necessarily, as when it comes to giving Crosby & Co new contracts, you're assuming that they'll immediately want out of Pittsburgh. Pidge made reference to a ludicrous contract that the Wings committed too with Fedorov, but that isn't going to happen in the era of salary cap.

Even if he does opt to not sign a new deal with the team, trading Croby will bring a mass of talent to the Pens, more than the Nords got with the trade of Lindros.

The amount they will demand will make sure that they won't be able to stay in Pittsburgh or wherever they may be playing. Sure, trading Crosby would bring in an incredible return, as would trading Ovechkin. They will struggle to keep all three together for longer than a couple of years unless they really scrape the rest of the team together and with them looking to re-sign Giguere again apparently, i can't see it.

[newham]

sawchuk said:

pidge said:

Thats right, realistically to balance the cap out throughout 20 guys the highest earner should be on no more than 5 million a year especially now theres a cap.(but i know there is) I think its going upto 44 million next year ?

Yes I think you're right Ian, $44m as of next year. Crosby will no doubt want to be the franchise poster boy, and good luck to him, but whether he wants a silly contract is another thing.

McCabe is on $7m per season with Toronto, so I think Crosby would be perfectly justified in asking for up to that amount when it's contract time.

You'd hope that Crosby wouldn't ask for a massive contract but you know he will, and you also know that somebody will pay it. That's sport nowadays sadly.