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Post by Stoopy on Nov 27, 2004 13:24:11 GMT
Whoops it appears that the teddy has seriously been thrown out of the pram on the THF. Now we all know the culprits, you naughty little scamps for having an opinion and sticking to it. So much for "free speech" on the allegedly No1 Forum.  |
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Post by Ovethegreatnumber8 on Nov 27, 2004 15:18:50 GMT
THF? What forum is that?
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Post by heja on Nov 27, 2004 15:22:41 GMT
THF = the Hockey Forum
can't remember the web address for it though ( well i guess there isn't one nowLOL
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Post by Tom on Nov 27, 2004 15:35:42 GMT
THF = the Hockey Forum can't remember the web address for it though ( well i guess there isn't one nowLOL Yes its The Hockey Forum. Which on its intro page says "The only hockey forum for totally free speech", and has a very anoying sound clip, however when you click on forums it has a message saying the site owner doesn't like some of the recent postings so he's closing the forum for a while. This normally happens a couple of times each season. Not my favourate forum. |
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Post by Shaggy on Nov 27, 2004 16:08:33 GMT
THF isn't perfect - no forum is. But it's a damned sight better than most.... and it is by far and away the most wide-ranging of all - it covers ALL ice hockey, not just one part or another.
"Totally free speech"? - you will never get the technical definition of that ANYWHERE - what you get on THF is discussion that isn't restricted by any league or club. No single fanbase has precedence, and there's been a hell of a lot of cross-club and cross-league interaction amongst fans as a direct result of the forum.
Paul (the THF owner) has had a lot of poo poo to deal with on the forum (as you'll get with 2000 members) - whilst I personally don't think he's going about this exactly the right way, he's certainly got a point. And I know or a fact that running the forum costs him personaly a fair amount of cash (not to mention an enormous amount of time and stress).
Something certain mindless trolls should try to think about, assuming they can use their brain for anything but keeping their ears apart......
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Post by Magpie on Nov 27, 2004 16:12:15 GMT
THF isn't perfect - no forum is. But it's a damned sight better than most.... and it is by far and away the most wide-ranging of all - it covers ALL ice hockey, not just one part or another. "Totally free speech"? - you will never get the technical definition of that ANYWHERE - what you get on THF is discussion that isn't restricted by any league or club. No single fanbase has precedence, and there's been a hell of a lot of cross-club and cross-league interaction amongst fans as a direct result of the forum. Paul (the THF owner) has had a lot of poo poo to deal with on the forum (as you'll get with 2000 members) - whilst I personally don't think he's going about this exactly the right way, he's certainly got a point. And I know or a fact that running the forum costs him personaly a fair amount of cash (not to mention an enormous amount of time and stress). Something certain mindless trolls should try to think about, assuming they can use their brain for anything but keeping their ears apart...... my sentiments exactly |
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Post by bobness on Nov 27, 2004 16:41:42 GMT
Sometimes that Shaggy fellow is worth listening to.....
(Pauses to take tongue out of cheek)
Hit the nail on the head, Shaggy. Great post. Some of the "trolls" would do well to take heed.
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Post by Igor on Nov 27, 2004 16:59:53 GMT
THF isn't perfect - no forum is. But it's a damned sight better than most.... and it is by far and away the most wide-ranging of all - it covers ALL ice hockey, not just one part or another. "Totally free speech"? - you will never get the technical definition of that ANYWHERE - what you get on THF is discussion that isn't restricted by any league or club. No single fanbase has precedence, and there's been a hell of a lot of cross-club and cross-league interaction amongst fans as a direct result of the forum. Paul (the THF owner) has had a lot of poo poo to deal with on the forum (as you'll get with 2000 members) - whilst I personally don't think he's going about this exactly the right way, he's certainly got a point. And I know or a fact that running the forum costs him personaly a fair amount of cash (not to mention an enormous amount of time and stress). Something certain mindless trolls should try to think about, assuming they can use their brain for anything but keeping their ears apart...... What he said... and it takes a lot for me to agree with Shaggy! I hope (THF Owner) Paul is taking note, he does a great job and it's a shame one or two persistent offenders have let things go this far. A time-out is exactly what's needed. |
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Post by Toto' on Nov 28, 2004 13:06:48 GMT
Can i guess it was Jack the giant? ;D
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Post by girdeaux on Nov 28, 2004 14:25:19 GMT
THF isn't perfect - no forum is. But it's a damned sight better than most.... and it is by far and away the most wide-ranging of all - it covers ALL ice hockey, not just one part or another. You're more than welcome to talk about the British hockey on this board Shaggy, as well as what ever league be it NHL, AHL, ECHL or International games, ie the Hockey World Cup on the NHL board too... But given the fact that you don't, I hardly think you're in a position to make claim that this site only lets people talk about certain types of hockey  |
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Post by Shaggy on Nov 28, 2004 14:40:05 GMT
You're more than welcome to talk about the British hockey on this board Shaggy, as well as what ever league be it NHL, AHL, ECHL or International games, ie the Hockey World Cup on the NHL board too... But given the fact that you don't, I hardly think you're in a position to make claim that this site only lets people talk about certain types of hockey And I specifically mentioned this site WHERE, Anton? Come on..... I was talking in general terms, and you know it. This site is Panthers first, everything else second - there is nothing wrong with that, and I have never said that there is. Just about every club has such a site, and IMHO that's a good thing.... it allows the fans of that particular team to discuss things 'in the family' as it were. THF is different.... it is specifically designed NOT to be inclined towards one team or another, one league or another (it used to be heavily BNL, but has moved a fair way from that now). IMHO, we need both..... sure, we can talk about non-Panthers stuff on here - care to point out to me exactly where I "make claim that this site only lets people talk about certain types of hockey"? But this will always be a Panthers-biased site..... and long may that continue! The very fact of a site (not just this one) being orientated towards one team will naturally cause some people not to bother with it..... how many people on here visit the Fife forum? Or the Hull forum? Etc etc.... The very fact that THF is designated 'neutral ground' encourages many people to post there. I for one have met huge numbers of fans and made quite a few friends as a direct result of THF - people that i probably would not have encountered. As for what I do or do not post on this site - surely that's my business, eh? Or am I supposed to meet a quota for the number of GB posts or NHL posts or whatever? Even if I did.... I wouldn't be discussing it with anywhere near as large or varied a membership as on THF, would I? I'm insulted by your inference, Anton...... I suggest that you moderate yourself - because you are reading things that simply aren't there!  |
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Post by girdeaux on Nov 28, 2004 17:13:14 GMT
And I specifically mentioned this site WHERE, Anton? Come on..... I was talking in general terms, and you know it. This site is Panthers first, everything else second - there is nothing wrong with that, and I have never said that there is. Just about every club has such a site, and IMHO that's a good thing.... it allows the fans of that particular team to discuss things 'in the family' as it were. THF is different.... it is specifically designed NOT to be inclined towards one team or another, one league or another (it used to be heavily BNL, but has moved a fair way from that now). IMHO, we need both..... sure, we can talk about non-Panthers stuff on here - care to point out to me exactly where I "make claim that this site only lets people talk about certain types of hockey"? But this will always be a Panthers-biased site..... and long may that continue! The very fact of a site (not just this one) being orientated towards one team will naturally cause some people not to bother with it..... how many people on here visit the Fife forum? Or the Hull forum? Etc etc.... The very fact that THF is designated 'neutral ground' encourages many people to post there. I for one have met huge numbers of fans and made quite a few friends as a direct result of THF - people that i probably would not have encountered. As for what I do or do not post on this site - surely that's my business, eh? Or am I supposed to meet a quota for the number of GB posts or NHL posts or whatever? Even if I did.... I wouldn't be discussing it with anywhere near as large or varied a membership as on THF, would I? I'm insulted by your inference, Anton...... I suggest that you moderate yourself - because you are reading things that simply aren't there! * sigh* You wrote Shaggy But it's a damned sight better than most.... and it is by far and away the most wide-ranging of all - it covers ALL ice hockey, not just one part or another. You HAVE previously made criticism of the NHL section of this site Shaggy, claiming that you have to be a " veteren" of NHL hockey in order to post on said board. That is what I was refering to |
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Post by Shaggy on Nov 28, 2004 21:25:15 GMT
* sigh* You wrote Shaggy Sigh all you like, Anton - but you are clutching at straws here trying to back up a completely baseless accusation. Read my words that you have quoted again, and tell me exactly where I " make claim that this site only lets people talk about certain types of hockey"? Come on - tell me where - or shut up. YOU are making totally unfounded accusations based on what you appear to be reading - which isn't what I've written. Come on - back up that "make claim" accusation with actual facts, or admit that you are talking cobblers..... and apologise. Put up or shut up. Convenient for you that that particular thread has been deleted. Going from memory, what I was actually saying was that I'd started off on the THF NHL forum not feeling comfortable posting there because everyone else seemed like veterans - which is why I kept asking questions - and I learned because the NHL veteran posters were kind enough to answer those questions. That is why I recommended the THF forum on that particular thread.... because I had good experiences on there as an NHL newbie. Once again, you've managed to distort reality..... so I say again - either prove to me that I have done as you've said - and back it up with actual facts, not wild accusations - or apologise and shut up. I'm getting more than a bit annoyed by these fabrications of yours...... |
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Post by Lammy on Nov 28, 2004 21:56:10 GMT
Anton, without wishing to stick an oar into what seems to be developing into a personal argument, I've got to say I agree with Shaggy that you have really taken what he wrote in the wrong context, and your reply seems somewhat OTT. I for one did not read his post as anything remotely criticising The Cage, merely as praise for THF, or is it not now permitted on here that another forum is mentioned? Just because a poster talks about one subject on the Cage doesn't mean they don't talk about other things on other forums. I know I do. I don't get into GB stuff on here cos I use the GBSC forum, I don't talk about Panthers stuff on the there either, so why did you need to have a go at Shaggy because he choses not to post on the Cage things he posts on THF? Smacks of touchy feelings about other forums! And as for the condescending "sigh" and eye rolling..... |
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Post by Admin on Nov 28, 2004 22:20:00 GMT
Take it off line guys!
Anton, I didn't read any kind of hidden insult into Shaggy's comments, the point that he was making was that THF is a good idea because of the lack of team bias ... and I believe that was the only point there ... nothing against the Cage.
Take a deep breath and calm down guys, nobody wants to read a two party squabble.
Back on topic ... THF's Moderator has my every sympathy, sometimes I ask myself why any of us are willing to run these forums, especially when the muppets are about.
I'm not a big user of THF, but I know that many people are .... and I hope it's up & running again soon for their sakes.
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Post by girdeaux on Nov 29, 2004 6:04:35 GMT
Convenient for you that that particular thread has been deleted. Going from memory, what I was actually saying was that I'd started off on the THF NHL forum not feeling comfortable posting there because everyone else seemed like veterans - which is why I kept asking questions - and I learned because the NHL veteran posters were kind enough to answer those questions. That is why I recommended the THF forum on that particular thread.... because I had good experiences on there as an NHL newbie. That particular thread was deleted a very long time ago Shaggy, as were many others, and there is a notice on the NHL board from myself regarding deleted threads. So to label it as "convenient" is neither here nor there... As for your reply above, that's fine & you've (now) explained what you were refering to months ago. But you didn't go into that much detail in your post I was refering too Once again, you've managed to distort reality..... I'm getting more than a bit annoyed by these fabrications of yours...... I'm sure David Simms feels exactly the same when matters pertain to yourself Shaggy...What did you call him recently? " High priest of hate"wasn't it |
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Post by Warren on Nov 29, 2004 7:04:21 GMT
I am not a user of the THF. But I will miss it. My main fear with the THF being closed is the Muppets / Trolls (Not sure if Jim Henson ever did a troll  form the THF will want a place to put random useless comments and threads. This will cause more work, headaches for our beloved mods on here. I know they have had a trouble or two with questionable chacters in the past and it does take alot of time to sift through all the posts made and useless threads. BUT With most bad points there are some good. While the THF is down some THF only posters may wander in here and add to our debates. Show opinions and views not said yet. |
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Post by Shaggy on Nov 29, 2004 7:24:37 GMT
Getting back onto topic......
THF is back.
As the notice on the front page of the forum said, it was a 'Time-Out' rather than a 'Lock-Out'..... and a good thing too.
Now to look forward to more discussions on there, more dscussions on here..... and the Scottish away double-header weekend! ;D
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Post by Admin on Nov 29, 2004 14:23:24 GMT
Good to hear!
I echo your sentiments Shaggy ... I'll see you in Scotland. You take the high road, I'll take the low road etc etc ;D
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Post by Shaggy on Nov 29, 2004 16:23:16 GMT
Good to hear! I echo your sentiments Shaggy ... I'll see you in Scotland. You take the high road, I'll take the low road etc etc ;D You got it.... the 'high road' up on Saturday morning, the 'high road' back on Monday morning..... and I don't intend to be sober at any point in between! ;D |
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form the THF will want a place to put random useless comments and threads. This will cause more work, headaches for our beloved mods on here. I know they have had a trouble or two with questionable chacters in the past and it does take alot of time to sift through all the posts made and useless threads.