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Post by David on Jun 13, 2005 20:14:19 GMT
Verdict due in 20 minutes! Last minute thoughts?
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Post by girdeaux on Jun 13, 2005 20:23:10 GMT
Verdict due in 20 minutes! Last minute thoughts? Hope the verdict is appropriate either way
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Post by Thomas Elliott on Jun 13, 2005 20:48:55 GMT
SEND HIM DOWN!! He's as guilty as sin in my mind!! If it wasn't anyone so high profile he'd have been locked away by now!!
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Post by newham on Jun 13, 2005 21:22:39 GMT
innocent? as if!
the man is guilty as sin and knows it. there's no smoke without fire.
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Post by Thomas Elliott on Jun 13, 2005 21:28:11 GMT
Is that the final verdict??
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Post by David on Jun 13, 2005 21:35:52 GMT
It's the final verdict. The jurors have had the benefit of seeing all the evidence, and they're in the best position to make a decision. The family have a history of lying in court. It's not really for us to say if he was innocent, or guilty, but you can't help feeling they were after money! He certainly has issues, and you'd like to think he won't be so stupid again!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2005 21:44:41 GMT
Not Guilty on everything!
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Post by girdeaux on Jun 13, 2005 21:51:40 GMT
innocent? as if! the man is guilty as sin and knows it. there's no smoke without fire. Nice saying it is too, but thankfully the law isn't based upon a saying. You don't know if he's guilty Daniel, have you seen all the evidence, or are you basing your statement of fact on Sky's re-enactment programme ;D
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Post by Samxpenguin on Jun 13, 2005 22:25:04 GMT
I think he is Inoccent of the charges, i don't know but about the case, but it seemed from what i heard the evidence for the Defence was fairly iffy.
Yes i think he's crazy, odd, mad.... and down right wierd... but just my gut instinct is he wasn't guilty.
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Post by heja on Jun 13, 2005 22:33:52 GMT
I didn't think he would of been guilty of all the charges (eg the main ones i though he wouldn't of been guilty) but the minor ones i though he could of been.
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Post by crunchie on Jun 13, 2005 23:26:26 GMT
Would you let him babysit for ya?. I chuffin' wouldn't.
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Post by heja on Jun 13, 2005 23:32:55 GMT
Would you let him babysit for ya?. I chuffin' wouldn't. you might do if he gave $10million ;D
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Post by Bretters on Jun 13, 2005 23:37:40 GMT
I dont really think any of us can really say if he is guilty or not guilty. He is a bit strange, but none of us know for sure whether it is all true or not.
We all have our opinions though, but i dont really want to say as none of us have heard every part of the evidence.
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Post by rogue (MAN!) on Jun 13, 2005 23:43:47 GMT
innocent? as if! the man is guilty as sin and knows it. there's no smoke without fire. Nice saying it is too, but thankfully the law isn't based upon a saying. You don't know if he's guilty Daniel, have you seen all the evidence, or are you basing your statement of fact on Sky's re-enactment programme ;D haha... that is soo funny, the guy who plays jacko makes me crease
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Post by crunchie on Jun 13, 2005 23:52:49 GMT
Tim... I don't yet have kids. However, I do have nieces & nephews. No amount of money would let him any place near them. You can't put money on loved ones safety. I have NO idea if he's guilty or not. He's been found not guilty & that's ok. However, I still remember the Martin Basheer documentary. The guy actually thinks it's ok & normal, to have strangers kids sleep in his beds. Imagine how you'd fell if (For talk sake) the following happened:
Parent: ''So did you enjoy the sleep-over at your friends house last night?. Where did you sleep?''
Child: ''I slept in the bed with the daddy''
You'd soon be round the house with shot-gun. I would!
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Post by sunbeam on Jun 14, 2005 0:21:31 GMT
innocent? as if! the man is guilty as sin and knows it. there's no smoke without fire. It really is one of the most stupidest of sayings. So if a few people tell the same lie often enough then there must be some truth in it? I guess there must be some WMD in Iraq as there's no smoke without fire. Wiggy: I wouldn't let him babysit my kids for the simple reason that I am not sure that he has an adult mind. My guess is he is a child in an adult's body. Do I think he'd ever intentionally harm my kids? Hell no. He's probably a kinder, gentler person than any of us. I just hope he is left alone to try to rebuild his life. I guess money truly doesn't buy you happiness.
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Post by p14 on Jun 14, 2005 11:13:20 GMT
I don't think any of us are in a state to comment on the case verdict really. (as in if it was the correct verdict) Do we know all the facts? Do we know the accurate account of what has been going on? How do we know that the british press hasn't put spins on the news to make us believe he was a gulity man and steriotyping(sp) him?
All i can say is that a court of law has found him not guilty so who are we to argue with that!
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Post by crunchie on Jun 14, 2005 12:55:09 GMT
A court of law has ended the life of many innocent people all over the world. It's also wasted innocent peoples lifes behind bars...... It's not about being guilty or not, it's about money & who can afford the best legal help.
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Post by p14 on Jun 14, 2005 12:59:37 GMT
But surely the evidence presented to the jury can't have been good enough to send him down. True he may have had a good lawyer but if the evidence was there (which it can't have been) he would have been sent down. The case against him just wasn't strong enough, or it was based on faulse accusations and lies. Either way he is innocent.
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Post by pantherjo on Jun 14, 2005 13:19:06 GMT
His time will come he will slip up somewhere else and then maybe the right verdict will be given.
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Post by cc77 on Jun 14, 2005 14:55:19 GMT
Would you let him babysit for ya?. I chuffin' wouldn't. nor would i didnt think he would be found guilty,and even if he was he wouldnt last five minutes in prison,mind you he would have probabley been kept seperate from everyone else.
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Post by sunbeam on Jun 14, 2005 15:19:46 GMT
It's not about being guilty or not, it's about money & who can afford the best legal help. The prosecution was a high-powered team of very well paid lawyers. This was more Chelsea v arsenal than Chelsea v Forest. His time will come he will slip up somewhere else and then maybe the right verdict will be given. But he is not guilty. A jury, a white jury at that, listened to all the evidence and said 'not guilty'. Simple as.
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Post by MP on Jun 14, 2005 15:40:18 GMT
But he is not guilty. A jury, a white jury at that, listened to all the evidence and said 'not guilty'. Simple as. One of the jurors said the prosecution didn't prove their case - he considered it more a case of "not proven".
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Post by sunbeam on Jun 14, 2005 17:13:36 GMT
But he is not guilty. A jury, a white jury at that, listened to all the evidence and said 'not guilty'. Simple as. One of the jurors said the prosecution didn't prove their case - he considered it more a case of "not proven". 3 of the jurors felt had some doubts but were talked around by the other 9. American commentators seem to have gained the impression that the judge's reaction suggests that he agreed with the verdict. Some have even said that a prosecution should be brought against the accusers. Notably the mother who has a history of claiming sexual abuse against people with money.
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Post by crunchie on Jun 14, 2005 20:08:05 GMT
I reffer the honourable gentleman to a reply I made earlier. The fact he was found NOT guilty, doesn't actually meann he was. he may just have blagged hs way out of it, even though he never had to take the stand himself!. As I said earlier, the law HAS convicted innocent people in the past, & executed them. The reverse can also be true.... guilty people set free. The law isn't perfect. I think the fact he had top notch lawers certainly helped his cause. Lawers that the likes of us couldn't have afforded. His money & fame ultimately saved him.
I personally don't think he was guilty of all the charges. I think doubt surrounds a few, but you can't convict someone just on doubt.
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