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Post by Adam on Nov 11, 2004 21:32:14 GMT
There could be more girls in the league! Article taken from the Sheffield Stir- "And Steelers search for an NHL superstar has led them to 28-year-old Columbus Blue jackets brawler Jody Shelley. The club is in talks with the Canadian left winger's agent because of the NHL lock out." Probably turn them down!! Then again he would'nt be the first!! His Stats- www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php3?pid=26815
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Post by brentford on Nov 11, 2004 21:53:29 GMT
The only time he spends on the ice is in the warm up.
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Post by Helen B on Nov 11, 2004 22:16:18 GMT
but he's kent simpson's mate and he'll tell him it''s all good here in Sheffield
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Post by owen on Nov 11, 2004 22:42:05 GMT
Sorry Helen but is it all good in Sheffield at the moment?
Would be great for you guys, if you can get him.
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Post by Shorty on Nov 12, 2004 6:07:00 GMT
Well he's got two girls names.
Jody and Shelley......
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Post by jon on Nov 12, 2004 7:25:30 GMT
Well he's got two girls names. Jody and Shelley...... if he signs why not get one of your players to say that to his face
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Post by Helen B on Nov 12, 2004 7:30:53 GMT
Sorry Helen but is it all good in Sheffield at the moment? Would be great for you guys, if you can get him. No it's not all good here now, but when someone asks a mate whats its like to play over here especially when its someone like Kent Simpson, who apparently enjoyed it, they are going to say what it was like for them. So what it was like 2 seasons ago for Simmer is totally different to what it is now but if Jody Shelley asks Simmer for his opinion then I don't think he'd give a bad one.
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Post by Shaggy on Nov 12, 2004 7:45:54 GMT
This guy's a nutter! I've seen him on CH5 etc..... he gets about as many penalty minutes as he does seconds of ice time..... the NEP called Jason Clarke "a brawl on skates"?? - in comparison, this would make Jody Shelley into WW3 on ice!
I hope no team in this country signs this one..... not Sheffield, not us, not anyone..... Belak, Cairns, McKenna etc might be 'tough' guys, might even be classed as 'goons'.... but Shelley takes it to an entirely new level.
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Post by Kai on Nov 12, 2004 8:12:16 GMT
Being a Steeler, I hope we don't sign him! The Steelers as a team and EIHL as a league, dont need that muppet playing over here!
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Post by girdeaux on Nov 12, 2004 9:45:56 GMT
if he signs why not get one of your players to say that to his face I'm sure McKenna would just laugh at him, like he laughed at your entire bench
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Post by Helen B on Nov 12, 2004 9:55:07 GMT
You say you've seen him play on C5 so therefore you've never seen him live. I suggest that what you see on the tv aint always the true picture of what the player is like. And as for the as many PIMs as mins on ice, er... excuse me but McKenna average 7 mins of ice time in the Show, 300+ games and 800+ PIMs, maybe not as many PIMs per season as Shelley but he's up there. And not to mention Wade Belak who is going to Coventry, he's got 800+ PIMs in 200+ games.
I know people (my parents) have been to Columbus and have seen him play and by all accounts he is not a nutter he is an enforcer, much like most of the other guys coming over here. You can say he's a nutter but we all said that about the other guys who are here and have actually found they can play but are not being given the chance to show that they can in the NHL because their job over there is to go out and enforce.
I would be well happy to have Jody as a Steeler as I know he can play and his lower league stats before the Show, shows that he can play and get points when given the opportunity. He is a point scoring enforcer, which is what we need because all our forwards keep getting pushed about by everyone elses enforcers and let's face it Dion aint been the same since he got the Captaincy, he's gone a bit soft, I noticed that last season.
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Post by girdeaux on Nov 12, 2004 10:04:37 GMT
I think the term points scoring enforcer is written with a wee bit of artistic license HelenB Oh and I found this article which made me smile ;D
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Post by Helen B on Nov 12, 2004 10:15:37 GMT
i must admit that is funny
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Post by girdeaux on Nov 12, 2004 10:28:44 GMT
An interview with Shawn McKenzie, head coach of the Halifax Mooseheads (about Jody Shelley...)
"He did what he had to do to get noticed. We felt he had a lot of heart and he developed into a very physical player" -Shawn MacKenzie Halifax Mooseheads Head Coach
He has battled hard, proved his critics wrong and has taken his lumps, but Jody Shelley has managed to defy the odds through old-fashioned hard work and plenty of heart.
Shawn MacKenzie can't help but chuckle when you mention Shelley's name, not in jest, but rather a heartfelt reaction from a junior coach for a player that knows a thing or two about leaving a lasting impression.
As a member of the Quebec Major Junior Hockey League's Halifax Mooseheads, Shelley came to the club as a longshot prospect, a kid who sported a great attitude, but decidedly less skill than many of his counterparts.
“When he came to us, he was raw, rough around the edges in terms of his play,” said MacKenzie, of the Thompson, Manitoba native. “There were a few times he was on the verge of being cut, but he had so much heart and a great enthusiasm for the game.”<br> Along with a desire to make a difference.
While he was far from the fastest or most offensively-gifted member of the Mooseheads, Shelley searched for ways to make an impact, whether it was bowling over opponents, blocking shots or dropping the gloves.
All the more reason said MacKenzie, to root for the left winger.
“He really didn't know what type of role he would have to play when he started his junior career,” said the coach who has been with the organization since their inception into the ‘Q' in 1994. “He did what he had to do to get noticed. We felt he had a lot of heart and he developed into a very physical player. As his junior career went on, he was afforded a lot of room and that helped him work on his skills.”<br> After a 10-goal rookie season in 1994-95, Shelley upped that total to 13 in his second year with Halifax and finished his junior career with 25 tallies in 1996-97. Not surprisingly, his robust style translated into a steady increase in his penalty minutes each year, too, starting with 194 and ending with 420.
And though he stands a solid 6'3”, 225-pounds these days, Shelley didn't sport that same frame during his junior days. While he had the height to match up with his opponents, there was a time when he gave away weight and muscle to the competition.
Even so, Shelley didn't care about any disadvantages when it came time to answer the bell.
“He plays old-time hockey,” offered MacKenzie, who played goal in the Ontario Hockey League with both the Windsor Spitfires and Oshawa Generals and later with the New Jersey Devils. “He's legit. He's got a nice story. Jody's a big man now, but he wasn't always that way. He was a tall guy, but he didn't always have that strength.”<br> “You want tough guys that can play the game and have some accountability and responsibility when they take a shift,” continued MacKenzie. “It's one thing to be a tough guy, but you also have to know how to play the game.”<br> Something not lost on Shelley, who went on to play in the Canadian university ranks, as well as the East Coast Hockey League and American Hockey League, prior to making it to hockey's elite level.
Though he signed as a free agent with Calgary in 1998 – Shelley never played a game with the Flames – it was the deal he inked with Columbus , also as a free agent, three years ago, that gave him the opportunity he had fought so hard for.
After appearing in one game with the Blue Jackets in 2000-01, the forward has played in 52, 68 and most recently 76 games with the Western Conference squad, a prime example of how he is regarded by the organization.
“There were a lot of doubters with Jody, but he always had that special quality coaches look for,” said MacKenzie. “It's not only his desire to be the best he can be, but he has a real enthusiasm for the game. He loves the game. I think it's a very important quality.”<br> Respected by his teammates and rivals alike, Shelley, closing in on 200 games at the big-league level, made his way to where he is through grit and guts, never cutting corners at any point along the way.
“He gets his foot in the door because of his toughness, but that allows him to be on the ice every day and improve upon his skills,” praised MacKenzie. “I think he's going to have a pretty good career. He hasn't forgotten what got him there."
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Post by Shaggy on Nov 12, 2004 12:30:13 GMT
You say you've seen him play on C5 so therefore you've never seen him live. I suggest that what you see on the tv aint always the true picture of what the player is like. And as for the as many PIMs as mins on ice, er... excuse me but McKenna average 7 mins of ice time in the Show, 300+ games and 800+ PIMs, maybe not as many PIMs per season as Shelley but he's up there. And not to mention Wade Belak who is going to Coventry, he's got 800+ PIMs in 200+ games. So I've never seen him live...... so? It is actually possible to see what someone does on TV..... you know, box with pictures of what is actually happening somewhere else? As for comparing Shelley with McKenna or Belak - well, none of the three have been big points scorers, but Shelley has not yet failed to get over 200 PIMs in any full year of playing in the NHL (high mark being 249 in 2002-03) - whereas the highest Belak has managed was 200 in that same year (and that included the Play-Offs) and the most for McKenna in the NHL was 158 back in 97-98...... Plus - would Jody Shelley EVER get considered as captain material? I somewhat doubt it...... score another one for McKenna there. "Points-scoring enforcer"?? - doesn't look like it, does it? Not for the last 5 years certainly, and not in the NHL or AHL. The ECHL? - then, yes.... but we've got ECHL-points-scorers to spare in this league, so that's hardly anything special. Reading the MacKenzie interview - continual references to being low on skill, "robust", "physical" - the positive references all being centred around physical play, enthusiasm and drive to get himself noticed any way he could.... which was by thumping people. You don't even have to really read between the lines to work that one out! I stand by my original assessment - nutter.
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Post by heja on Nov 12, 2004 18:51:48 GMT
yes but Mckenna averages just over 2 minutes a agame where as shelly averages nearly 4 minutes per game
and shelly averages around 6 or 7 mins ice time as well.
and all Mckenna PIMs cam in something like 9 games, the other 40 games last season he didn't take a single Penalty
but sheelly took a penalty (usally 5mins or more, think he only had one game where he got a penalty that added up to less that 5mins and that was 4mins.) nearly every other game, except for a little period. Looks like.
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Post by dodyfan13 on Nov 12, 2004 23:30:05 GMT
I so hope they do get him. then we might get some fighting and hitting going on cause at the moment there isn't any and it getting a bit boring.i know that iam not the only one that likes the RUFF stuff.
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Post by heja on Nov 12, 2004 23:38:49 GMT
it is getting a bit boring with not many big checks coming in. dunno why there are enough big guys in the league i mean i think all the NHL'er are 6ft 3+
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Post by Shaggy on Nov 13, 2004 9:35:58 GMT
I so hope they do get him. then we might get some fighting and hitting going on cause at the moment there isn't any and it getting a bit boring.i know that iam not the only one that likes the RUFF stuff. Good CLEAN hard body-checks, yes...... but surely the last thing we want is to import shed-loads of knuckle-draggers? We had that with Wood & Clarke etc, and that didn't work out too well. Boring? - for you, maybe - some of us actually like the sport of ice hockey..... you know, skating, passing, scoring - that kind of thing?
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Post by girdeaux on Nov 13, 2004 10:02:45 GMT
Good CLEAN hard body-checks, yes...... but surely the last thing we want is to import shed-loads of knuckle-draggers? We had that with Wood & Clarke etc, and that didn't work out too well. Boring? - for you, maybe - some of us actually like the sport of ice hockey..... you know, skating, passing, scoring - that kind of thing? Have to agree with you Shaggy. I prefer the skilled side of the game, as opposed to the fighting element. But I guess each to their own
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Post by heja on Nov 13, 2004 13:16:46 GMT
yeah i prefer the skilled side but i still like to see a fight every few games.
as someone said can't rermember who(not on here or any other forum but somebody who played preffesionally i think)
"The only time fans cheer at games it when a goal is scored or a fight breaks out."
which is 99% true, so when there are no goals there is usally no atmosphere and a fight will liven the game up for both the players and the fans
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Post by Samxpenguin on Nov 13, 2004 15:52:36 GMT
Good CLEAN hard body-checks, yes...... but surely the last thing we want is to import shed-loads of knuckle-draggers? We had that with Wood & Clarke etc, and that didn't work out too well. Boring? - for you, maybe - some of us actually like the sport of ice hockey..... you know, skating, passing, scoring - that kind of thing? I like to see good skilfull play, swift passing and good stick control, but i also enjoy the more physical aspects of the game. Especially when Pantheres are wining by a couple of goals, there seems to very few checks and not much of a physical aspect to the game. I liek to see a fight a game...alogn with the rough stuff, they dont ahve to be seperate do they? As Tim said, a hard check, a fight, a bit of roughing all gets the fans off there seats and thier throats into action. Also, a few big hits from any player can pick up his team or anger the other...meaning the game gets very passionate.
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Post by dodyfan13 on Nov 13, 2004 21:26:44 GMT
thats it timbo am with you. who thinks the belfast game was pants. there was no hits or anything
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