Kelsall re-signs

[shinobi]

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Discuss.

[bobness]

Splendid.

[Yotes]

Happy to see him back. Versatile in terms of covering on defence when needed, which probably hasn't helped his stats line much. Shown he can be quite a tidy finisher when he gets the chance.

[Joe]

May 3, 2024 18:24:59 GMT Yotes said:

Happy to see him back. Versatile in terms of covering on defence when needed, which probably hasn't helped his stats line much. Shown he can be quite a tidy finisher when he gets the chance.

Best season points wise

[rexkramer]

I like him. Does any job he's asked, doesn't back down from a physical confrontation even though he's not a big lad, scores a lovely goal as well. Not flashy but consistent.

[awooga]

I like him.

Versatile, and always puts his all in.

Local lad as well. Glad to have him back.

[yeti]

Sorry but I'm underwhelmed. Don't understand the love for Kelsall. Not the big Brit signing I want to hear about. Yeh he's versatile but doesn't really play defence very well and doesn't do enough to be a top Brit forward. If we keep him but loose Ollie, Joe or Logan and even Tets then definitely not great. Mo where near an import quality Brit, which is what we should be looking to sign.
I'd have only signed him as a spare player to cover injuries or if he is really cheap to allow the extra money to be used on top end imports.

[deke]

Good player does his job does not complain and puts it all on the line every game , he can play d and forward. Definitely a really useful player for us . Don't think he gets enough credit .

[Joe]

May 3, 2024 19:01:54 GMT yeti said:

Sorry but I'm underwhelmed. Don't understand the love for Kelsall. Not the big Brit signing I want to hear about. Yeh he's versatile but doesn't really play defence very well and doesn't do enough to be a top Brit forward. If we keep him but loose Ollie, Joe or Logan and even Tets then definitely not great. Mo where near an import quality Brit, which is what we should be looking to sign.
I'd have only signed him as a spare player to cover injuries or if he is really cheap to allow the extra money to be used on top end imports.

Firstly we’ve never had a Brit pack full of import quality brits so to expect it is ridiculous, especially considering we don’t even have one import quality Brit now and which import quality brits could we possibly sign that wouldn’t require us to pay way over the odds

[yeti]

We are meant to be a top four budget team. There is no wage cap. to make out we can't compete for the top brits is just excepting a lower standard than we should. with only four out skating brits which of the other four I mentioned would you place below Kesall. Add to that we should be signing at least one import quality brit as well as three from the other four I have mentioned, who are you happy to see go?

[blackandgold73]

May 3, 2024 19:39:53 GMT Joe said:

May 3, 2024 19:01:54 GMT yeti said:

Sorry but I'm underwhelmed. Don't understand the love for Kelsall. Not the big Brit signing I want to hear about. Yeh he's versatile but doesn't really play defence very well and doesn't do enough to be a top Brit forward. If we keep him but loose Ollie, Joe or Logan and even Tets then definitely not great. Mo where near an import quality Brit, which is what we should be looking to sign.
I'd have only signed him as a spare player to cover injuries or if he is really cheap to allow the extra money to be used on top end imports.

Firstly we’ve never had a Brit pack full of import quality brits so to expect it is ridiculous, especially considering we don’t even have one import quality Brit now and which import quality brits could we possibly sign that wouldn’t require us to pay way over the odds

10/11 and 12/13 come pretty close to a full Brit pack of import quality Brits.

Not saying we could get them now but we built them up in the past so it's doable.

Bringing Weaver in for 12/13 was a not insignificant tipping point

[pantherlee]

May 3, 2024 19:55:12 GMT yeti said:

We are meant to be a top four budget team. There is no wage cap. to make out we can't compete for the top brits is just excepting a lower standard than we should. with only four out skating brits which of the other four I mentioned would you place below Kesall. Add to that we should be signing at least one import quality brit as well as three from the other four I have mentioned, who are you happy to see go?

You say import quality Brits but who? Have you seen the GB squad? It’s full of import dual nats. The days of Weaver/Clarke/Myers/Meyers/Shields/J Phillips are gone. There’s only really Dowd and Richardson left and they’re in their mid 30’s now and going anywhere. I’d say we have one of the strongest Brit packs so why change it? Steelers is about level and I’d say it’s better than Devils and Giants

[yeti]

May 3, 2024 20:17:01 GMT pantherlee said:

May 3, 2024 19:55:12 GMT yeti said:

We are meant to be a top four budget team. There is no wage cap. to make out we can't compete for the top brits is just excepting a lower standard than we should. with only four out skating brits which of the other four I mentioned would you place below Kesall. Add to that we should be signing at least one import quality brit as well as three from the other four I have mentioned, who are you happy to see go?

You say import quality Brits but who? Have you seen the GB squad? It’s full of import dual nats. The days of Weaver/Clarke/Myers/Meyers/Shields/J Phillips are gone. There’s only really Dowd and Richardson left and they’re in their mid 30’s now and going anywhere. I’d say we have one of the strongest Brit packs so why change it? Steelers is about level and I’d say it’s better than Devils and Giants

So we don't even attempt to bring back Perlini or go for Scott Conway. Non of you say which Brit out of the other four I have mentioned you are happy to see go instead of Kelsall. Are we still level with Sheffield if Ollie, Joe or Logan leave and Kelsall stays? I say no we aren't.

[wgray]

I understand why people like him and I can accept him being signed as 4th line RW, but his signing likely means that we’re going to lose another Brit, which is disappointing I feel.

Hopefully Kelsall’s overall play improves further this season and he gets an uninterrupted season playing as a forward.

[shinobi]

It was mentioned on social media that Betteridge isn’t likely to sign for Cardiff.

[Bagheera]

It's all about role players. Square pegs in square holes. 4th lines have never been about production. They are about hard work and shutting the opponents down.
If you sign all top end Brits then you probably end up with 3 imports on the 4th line. That's not really needed.
If we do go with the Brit limit of 4 outskaters then it could still be a good signing. Keep Ollie and put an import on the 4th line or have JK on the 4th line and spend Ollies money on a 2nd/3rd line import.
Way to early to tell. Comes dowm to how the squad is built. Dropping to no spare Brit and losing Ollie may allow us to pay Hazeldine what he wants. Thats a choice i'd make every day of the week.

As it stands it's a great signing in my view.

[pantherlee]

May 3, 2024 20:26:01 GMT yeti said:

May 3, 2024 20:17:01 GMT pantherlee said:

You say import quality Brits but who? Have you seen the GB squad? It’s full of import dual nats. The days of Weaver/Clarke/Myers/Meyers/Shields/J Phillips are gone. There’s only really Dowd and Richardson left and they’re in their mid 30’s now and going anywhere. I’d say we have one of the strongest Brit packs so why change it? Steelers is about level and I’d say it’s better than Devils and Giants

So we don't even attempt to bring back Perlini or go for Scott Conway. Non of you say which Brit out of the other four I have mentioned you are happy to see go instead of Kelsall. Are we still level with Sheffield if Ollie, Joe or Logan leave and Kelsall stays? I say no we aren't.

Well by the sounds of it bridges have very much been burned with Perlini. If Conway became available I’d be delighted but I’d guess he’d go back to Belfast, but I were him I’d think the EIHL beneath me now anyway. Yes I’d be disappointed if those you mention leave but that hasn’t happened yet so why assume they will?
Kelsall may not be a world beater or set tongues wagging but he is more than capable of fulfilling his role on the 4th line so I’m happy with him

[shinobi]

Conway was had some choice words about the standard of the officials in the EIHL on social media.

[The Flying Shirt]

May 3, 2024 21:16:30 GMT shinobi said:

Conway was had some choice words about the standard of the officials in the EIHL on social media.

So do 5000 + others every week

[Joe]

May 3, 2024 20:26:01 GMT yeti said:

May 3, 2024 20:17:01 GMT pantherlee said:

You say import quality Brits but who? Have you seen the GB squad? It’s full of import dual nats. The days of Weaver/Clarke/Myers/Meyers/Shields/J Phillips are gone. There’s only really Dowd and Richardson left and they’re in their mid 30’s now and going anywhere. I’d say we have one of the strongest Brit packs so why change it? Steelers is about level and I’d say it’s better than Devils and Giants

So we don't even attempt to bring back Perlini or go for Scott Conway. Non of you say which Brit out of the other four I have mentioned you are happy to see go instead of Kelsall. Are we still level with Sheffield if Ollie, Joe or Logan leave and Kelsall stays? I say no we aren't.

I think Jordan is at the bottom of the out skating pack but why does Kelsall signing mean that we’ve chosen him over one of the others?

[rexkramer]

Given what we saw with injuries this season, 5 Brit skaters plus a third choice goalie would be my preference.

[yeti]

May 4, 2024 5:59:51 GMT rexkramer said:

Given what we saw with injuries this season, 5 Brit skaters plus a third choice goalie would be my preference.

I agree that would be ideal. Just experience of how Panthers are run tells me this won't happen. One of the other Brits will be allowed to leave with no other top end Brit coming in.
I will be pleasantly surprised if we do start with an extra out skater. I would also be happy to have Kelsall in as the extra skater. If we get injuries to either an import or brit then he instantly drops in and plays.

If it happens then it will be a good statement of the clubs ambitions to get back being one of the big clubs and show Black is fully behind the team.

[bobness]

May 3, 2024 18:43:35 GMT rexkramer said:

I like him. Does any job he's asked, doesn't back down from a physical confrontation even though he's not a big lad, scores a lovely goal as well. Not flashy but consistent.

Love that phrase "scores a lovely goal as well".
And indeed he does.

[bobness]

May 3, 2024 21:16:30 GMT shinobi said:

Conway was had some choice words about the standard of the officials in the EIHL on social media.

Let's hope the officials have long memories.
Whingers really get my goat.