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Post by jd on Mar 15, 2024 23:04:08 GMT
The Nottingham culture does what exactly? You've been watching the team long enough, I'll let you fill in the blanks 😉 Why don’t you tell us? You seem to know everything
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2024 23:11:37 GMT
Have you been living under a rock for the last 11 years and baring a 3 year spell.. its been like this since the NIC Was built!
It's just not a winning culture in Nottingham.. it staggers me how many decent looking players arrive in Nottingham and under perform.. it happens to frequent to be just down to back luck.
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Post by jd on Mar 15, 2024 23:13:42 GMT
Have you been living under a rock for the last 11 years and baring a 3 year spell.. its been like this since the NIC Was built! It's just not a winning culture in Nottingham.. it staggers me how many decent looking players arrive in Nottingham and under perform.. it happens to frequent to be just down to back luck. Why don’t you answer the question Ian? The Nottingham culture does what exactly?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2024 23:20:23 GMT
Have you been living under a rock for the last 11 years and baring a 3 year spell.. its been like this since the NIC Was built! It's just not a winning culture in Nottingham.. it staggers me how many decent looking players arrive in Nottingham and under perform.. it happens to frequent to be just down to back luck. Why don’t you answer the question Ian? The Nottingham culture does what exactly? Breeds losing. That better
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Post by jd on Mar 15, 2024 23:23:05 GMT
Why don’t you answer the question Ian? The Nottingham culture does what exactly? Breeds losing. That better Not really cos you don’t explain fully what you mean, you never do! CN somehow managed to win trophies though, hardly breeding losing was he!
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Post by wgray on Mar 15, 2024 23:29:22 GMT
The Nottingham culture does what exactly? You've been watching the team long enough, I'll let you fill in the blanks 😉 If you believe the culture of the club is the reason why we’ve struggled and have ended up languished in last place then I think you’re being unfair. The team have been through something catastrophic and unfortunately it has affected the professional relationship between them all. Nothing is normal for the team, what we expect from the coaches, in terms of motivation and leadership, doesn’t seem to be there when you watch them on the bench. I know your opinions on the club, as well as how long you’ve been watching hockey. Surely you can see that nothing is normal, there have been so many difficulties for the club to navigate. The club’s culture isn’t the cause of all of this
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Post by jd on Mar 15, 2024 23:31:28 GMT
Don’t hold your breath for an answer!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2024 23:32:01 GMT
Breeds losing. That better Not really cos you don’t explain fully what you mean, you never do! CN somehow managed to win trophies though, hardly breeding losing was he! Neilson mark 1 was a exception to the rule what about the other 20 years? For whatever reason black actually backed him with a solid roster all the way down and the recruitment was decent. It's got to the point where panthers nearest and dearest are willing them on and hoping they make the playoffs ...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2024 23:33:06 GMT
You've been watching the team long enough, I'll let you fill in the blanks 😉 If you believe the culture of the club is the reason why we’ve struggled and have ended up languished in last place then I think you’re being unfair. The team have been through something catastrophic and unfortunately it has affected the professional relationship between them all. Nothing is normal for the team, what we expect from the coaches, in terms of motivation and leadership, doesn’t seem to be there when you watch them on the bench. I know your opinions on the club, as well as how long you’ve been watching hockey. Surely you can see that nothing is normal, there have been so many difficulties for the club to navigate. The club’s culture isn’t the cause of all of this Take this season away upto the end of last season my opinion is still the same regarding the club
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2024 23:36:07 GMT
You've been watching the team long enough, I'll let you fill in the blanks 😉 If you believe the culture of the club is the reason why we’ve struggled and have ended up languished in last place then I think you’re being unfair. The team have been through something catastrophic and unfortunately it has affected the professional relationship between them all. Nothing is normal for the team, what we expect from the coaches, in terms of motivation and leadership, doesn’t seem to be there when you watch them on the bench. I know your opinions on the club, as well as how long you’ve been watching hockey. Surely you can see that nothing is normal, there have been so many difficulties for the club to navigate. The club’s culture isn’t the cause of all of this I was sort of hoping the tradegy would have galvanised the group and they rallied and if anything punched above their weight and go on and achieve something if not for themselves but for Adam
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Post by jd on Mar 15, 2024 23:37:02 GMT
Have you been living under a rock for the last 11 years and baring a 3 year spell.. its been like this since the NIC Was built! It's just not a winning culture in Nottingham.. it staggers me how many decent looking players arrive in Nottingham and under perform.. it happens to frequent to be just down to back luck. Won trophies for more than 3 years CN, so not all about breeding losers. We all know who the issue is but CN won well. He had a winning culture.
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Post by John Casey on Mar 15, 2024 23:42:16 GMT
You've been watching the team long enough, I'll let you fill in the blanks 😉 If you believe the culture of the club is the reason why we’ve struggled and have ended up languished in last place then I think you’re being unfair. The team have been through something catastrophic and unfortunately it has affected the professional relationship between them all. Nothing is normal for the team, what we expect from the coaches, in terms of motivation and leadership, doesn’t seem to be there when you watch them on the bench. I know your opinions on the club, as well as how long you’ve been watching hockey. Surely you can see that nothing is normal, there have been so many difficulties for the club to navigate. The club’s culture isn’t the cause of all of this As I said on the Fife thread, before all this happened, we weren't a bottom side, we would be in the Playoffs. The players have battled even though that losing streak was getting bad, they clawed their way back but unfortunately the fixtures came thick and fast and it had to be the Scottish away games that had to be covered. The club could have helped out more by covering that Welsh injury that lasted a long time. The whole Robinson fiasco hasn't helped. Not being able to get a NM is a stupid rule and hasn't done Rok any favours as surely he wouldn't have been playing all these games. And then there was the rotten luck of Neilson getting injured during warm up. This season will go down as a What If...
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Post by iginla on Mar 15, 2024 23:44:13 GMT
Has being without Neill and Caruso been the difference? Caruso has probably been our best defenceman this season and Neill makes so much happen offensively....both are massive misses for this team. Having a young 21 year old Brit in goal who’s never won a game before and missing your best Dman is quite a miss too. But Dundee didn’t let that stop them tonight. And only having 14 skaters didn’t stop Fife on Tuesday night either. Come on,losing to both Fife and Dundee the 8th and 9th placed small budget teams in the space of four days is pretty shocking.
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Post by jd on Mar 15, 2024 23:44:31 GMT
If you believe the culture of the club is the reason why we’ve struggled and have ended up languished in last place then I think you’re being unfair. The team have been through something catastrophic and unfortunately it has affected the professional relationship between them all. Nothing is normal for the team, what we expect from the coaches, in terms of motivation and leadership, doesn’t seem to be there when you watch them on the bench. I know your opinions on the club, as well as how long you’ve been watching hockey. Surely you can see that nothing is normal, there have been so many difficulties for the club to navigate. The club’s culture isn’t the cause of all of this As I said on the Fife thread, before all this happened, we weren't a bottom side, we would be in the Playoffs. The players have battled even though that losing streak was getting bad, they clawed their way back but unfortunately the fixtures came thick and fast and it had to be the Scottish away games that had to be covered. The club could have helped out more by covering that Welsh injury that lasted a long time. The whole Robinson fiasco hasn't helped. Not being able to get a NM is a stupid rule and hasn't done Rok any favours as surely he wouldn't have been playing all these games. And then there was the rotten luck of Neilson getting injured during warm up. This season will go down as a What If... Totally agree. That night in Sheffield was horrific and quite how they’ve managed to play again is still a miracle.
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Post by wgray on Mar 15, 2024 23:47:53 GMT
If you believe the culture of the club is the reason why we’ve struggled and have ended up languished in last place then I think you’re being unfair. The team have been through something catastrophic and unfortunately it has affected the professional relationship between them all. Nothing is normal for the team, what we expect from the coaches, in terms of motivation and leadership, doesn’t seem to be there when you watch them on the bench. I know your opinions on the club, as well as how long you’ve been watching hockey. Surely you can see that nothing is normal, there have been so many difficulties for the club to navigate. The club’s culture isn’t the cause of all of this I was sort of hoping the tradegy would have galvanised the group and they rallied and if anything punched above their weight and go on and achieve something if not for themselves but for Adam So did I, we all did. The good times will be back though
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Post by iginla on Mar 15, 2024 23:49:31 GMT
You've been watching the team long enough, I'll let you fill in the blanks 😉 If you believe the culture of the club is the reason why we’ve struggled and have ended up languished in last place then I think you’re being unfair. The team have been through something catastrophic and unfortunately it has affected the professional relationship between them all. Nothing is normal for the team, what we expect from the coaches, in terms of motivation and leadership, doesn’t seem to be there when you watch them on the bench. I know your opinions on the club, as well as how long you’ve been watching hockey. Surely you can see that nothing is normal, there have been so many difficulties for the club to navigate. The club’s culture isn’t the cause of all of this Ok take this year out if it. What’s the excuse for the many other years ? Constantly finishing 4th,5th,6th then even 7th and now looking like 10th shows there is a problem. A pretty big one.
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Post by jd on Mar 15, 2024 23:51:27 GMT
If you believe the culture of the club is the reason why we’ve struggled and have ended up languished in last place then I think you’re being unfair. The team have been through something catastrophic and unfortunately it has affected the professional relationship between them all. Nothing is normal for the team, what we expect from the coaches, in terms of motivation and leadership, doesn’t seem to be there when you watch them on the bench. I know your opinions on the club, as well as how long you’ve been watching hockey. Surely you can see that nothing is normal, there have been so many difficulties for the club to navigate. The club’s culture isn’t the cause of all of this Ok take this year out if it. What’s the excuse for the many other years ? Constantly finishing 4th,5th,6th then even 7th and now looking like 10th shows there is a problem. A pretty big one. The only consistent person is those years is the issue. Said it a million times, until he goes nothing will change
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Post by John Casey on Mar 15, 2024 23:52:58 GMT
If you believe the culture of the club is the reason why we’ve struggled and have ended up languished in last place then I think you’re being unfair. The team have been through something catastrophic and unfortunately it has affected the professional relationship between them all. Nothing is normal for the team, what we expect from the coaches, in terms of motivation and leadership, doesn’t seem to be there when you watch them on the bench. I know your opinions on the club, as well as how long you’ve been watching hockey. Surely you can see that nothing is normal, there have been so many difficulties for the club to navigate. The club’s culture isn’t the cause of all of this Ok take this year out if it. What’s the excuse for the many other years ? Constantly finishing 4th,5th,6th then even 7th and now looking like 10th shows there is a problem. A pretty big one. I thought you was taking this year out, therefore there's no 10th
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Post by John Casey on Mar 15, 2024 23:56:03 GMT
Caruso has probably been our best defenceman this season and Neill makes so much happen offensively....both are massive misses for this team. Having a young 21 year old Brit in goal who’s never won a game before and missing your best Dman is quite a miss too. But Dundee didn’t let that stop them tonight. And only having 14 skaters didn’t stop Fife on Tuesday night either. Come on,losing to both Fife and Dundee the 8th and 9th placed small budget teams in the space of four days is pretty shocking. Those games were in the same week as Cardiff And Glasgow too. Saturday to Saturday, they would've played Cardiff Glasgow Fife Dundee Sheffield Only Fife was at home
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Post by iginla on Mar 15, 2024 23:59:13 GMT
Ok take this year out if it. What’s the excuse for the many other years ? Constantly finishing 4th,5th,6th then even 7th and now looking like 10th shows there is a problem. A pretty big one. The only consistent person is those years is the issue. Said it a million times, until he goes nothing will change I totally agree,I was telling you that ten years ago. Still saying it today,Black creates the bad ethos that seeps down through the club onto the ice.
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Post by John Casey on Mar 15, 2024 23:59:43 GMT
I think that after the Glasgow win, 8th spot was within touching distance and most of us thought that we would have taken Fife and was disappointed about the performance and result.
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Post by iginla on Mar 16, 2024 0:05:16 GMT
Having a young 21 year old Brit in goal who’s never won a game before and missing your best Dman is quite a miss too. But Dundee didn’t let that stop them tonight. And only having 14 skaters didn’t stop Fife on Tuesday night either. Come on,losing to both Fife and Dundee the 8th and 9th placed small budget teams in the space of four days is pretty shocking. Those games were in the same week as Cardiff And Glasgow too. Saturday to Saturday, they would've played Cardiff Glasgow Fife Dundee Sheffield Only Fife was at home Like I said the other day,they should have seen the fixture jam coming and done something about it. They’ve got plenty of import slots left unused. Look at the goalie situation too,it was obvious ages ago both Rok and particularly Robinson were poor,they should have either let Robinson go,or if that seemed too harsh just kept him and signed a third goalie.
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Post by jd on Mar 16, 2024 0:06:20 GMT
The only consistent person is those years is the issue. Said it a million times, until he goes nothing will change I totally agree,I was telling you that ten years ago. Still saying it today,Black creates the bad ethos that seeps down through the club onto the ice. 10 years ago we won the challenge cup after winning the lot the year before, not sure we would have been complaining. Since he left the club has fallen apart. But I know you won’t agree. CN winning so much is unreal looking back now.
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Post by iginla on Mar 16, 2024 0:11:10 GMT
I totally agree,I was telling you that ten years ago. Still saying it today,Black creates the bad ethos that seeps down through the club onto the ice. 10 years ago we won the challenge cup after winning the lot the year before, not sure we would have been complaining. Since he left the club has fallen apart. But I know you won’t agree. Neilson was ok for a few years when he started. Poor league record though. Then he got bored,didn’t seem bothered and looked and sounded like he was just going through the motions. It went stale,he stayed far too long and since then the club has been a massive mess ! But don’t forget in Coreys best years,both Sheffield and Cardiff were in a mess with/after Phillips and Regan.
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Post by jd on Mar 16, 2024 0:16:29 GMT
10 years ago we won the challenge cup after winning the lot the year before, not sure we would have been complaining. Since he left the club has fallen apart. But I know you won’t agree. Neilson was ok for a few years when he started. Poor league record though. Then he got bored,didn’t seem bothered and looked and sounded like he was just going through the motions. It went stale,he stayed far too long and since then the club has been a massive mess ! But don’t forget in Coreys best years,both Sheffield and Cardiff were in a mess with/after Phillips and Regan. Only coach to the win the league for us since what, 1956? Won so many playoffs and challenge cups and then the continental trophy. All that whilst having a poor owner. Wonder what he could have done with a proper budget eh! Must have killed you when he won the league hahahaha
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