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Post by awooga on Nov 6, 2023 12:38:20 GMT
Can’t see us playing any fixtures this calendar year to be honest.
Would make sense for us to drop out of the cup games too, just honour the league ones when we can.
Without wishing to sound harsh, we were already a few players light, and with injuries to Tetlow and Ryczek as well as losing AJ we are really short as a team.
If a few players feel they can’t carry on, or perhaps want a fresh start elsewhere, we have massive holes in the roster.
If we didn’t restart until the new year, it would allow us some time to recover and to potentially recruit some new players.
I don’t see the need to rush back - both emotionally and also from a competitive point of view.
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Post by Yotes on Nov 6, 2023 12:39:57 GMT
Heard it was Sunday when we were at the arena Saturday. Wondered if some of the players would attend or if it was going to be private for the family? Panthers posted on Sunday:
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Post by blackandgold73 on Nov 6, 2023 13:15:20 GMT
Heard it was Sunday when we were at the arena Saturday. Wondered if some of the players would attend or if it was going to be private for the family? Panthers posted on Sunday: Yes. It was yesterday afternoon. Around 9.30pm our time.
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Post by blackandgold73 on Nov 6, 2023 13:18:18 GMT
Heard it was Sunday when we were at the arena Saturday. Wondered if some of the players would attend or if it was going to be private for the family? There was a livestream of the funeral for those friends, family and teammates who weren't in attendance.
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Post by wgray on Nov 6, 2023 13:45:03 GMT
If enough players are willing and ready to return then I feel like Sunday 26th November against Belfast would be an ideal game to come back, as we wouldn’t have postponed too many league games at that point. I think withdrawing from the cup would help the fixture backlog as well.
It’s up to the players though, if they don’t want to carry on at all then they will have my support, I’m sure we all feel the same way
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Post by EMB on Nov 6, 2023 14:01:13 GMT
Heard it was Sunday when we were at the arena Saturday. Wondered if some of the players would attend or if it was going to be private for the family? There was a livestream of the funeral for those friends, family and teammates who weren't in attendance. I'm sure they said the funeral yesterday was a private family affair, the celebration of life is tonight at 9.30pm and is going to be streamed for all to watch. Link is on the OS Saw Otto on Saturday night with what could have been his mother? Parades has apparently gone home and wasn't here for the memorial. I wouldn't be surprised at all if some of them go home for a while, Rick's interview shows just how much they are suffering the poor guy could barely hold it together. Thoughts aswell to all the staff in the office who despite everything managed to organise along with the arena the most perfect memorial.
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Post by Bagheera on Nov 6, 2023 14:14:29 GMT
Not sure how much it actually means, but would Cardiff proactively push this if they didn't have some degree of certainty?
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Post by Bagheera on Nov 6, 2023 14:19:22 GMT
There was a livestream of the funeral for those friends, family and teammates who weren't in attendance. I'm sure they said the funeral yesterday was a private family affair, the celebration of life is tonight at 9.30pm and is going to be streamed for all to watch. Link is on the OS Saw Otto on Saturday night with what could have been his mother? Parades has apparently gone home and wasn't here for the memorial. I wouldn't be surprised at all if some of them go home for a while, Rick's interview shows just how much they are suffering the poor guy could barely hold it together. Thoughts aswell to all the staff in the office who despite everything managed to organise along with the arena the most perfect memorial. I think Otto could be one of those suffering the most. I've still not watched the video fully so excuse me if i'm wrong. I think it was him who tried to help AJ, holding his neck, but it was also Otto that caused Petgrave to go flying. Everybody has been concerned with Petgrave and rightly so, but perhaps Otto is also questioning if he's caused it too. Of course he shouldn't be, but I think we'd all be thinking what if, if it were us in those circumstances.
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Post by float on Nov 6, 2023 15:02:51 GMT
View AttachmentNot sure how much it actually means, but would Cardiff proactively push this if they didn't have some degree of certainty? Interested to know if Devils know something or if this is an unfortunate scheduled-tweet. It was posted at exactly 2pm, so could possibly have been scheduled a while in advance and therefore posted automatically. Guess we'll find out if there's any issues soon.
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Post by blackandgold73 on Nov 6, 2023 15:05:47 GMT
There was a livestream of the funeral for those friends, family and teammates who weren't in attendance. I'm sure they said the funeral yesterday was a private family affair, the celebration of life is tonight at 9.30pm and is going to be streamed for all to watch. Link is on the OS Saw Otto on Saturday night with what could have been his mother? Parades has apparently gone home and wasn't here for the memorial. I wouldn't be surprised at all if some of them go home for a while, Rick's interview shows just how much they are suffering the poor guy could barely hold it together. Thoughts aswell to all the staff in the office who despite everything managed to organise along with the arena the most perfect memorial. Ah right, sorry I must have misread the bit in the obituary. Apologies. Yeah. At times like this I think they'd all appreciate some time with their families. I know I made a point of visiting mine the next day. The organisation have been fantastic, and to do that with all they're going through as well speaks volumes for who they are as people. My thoughts and best wishes are with them as well
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Post by Carnell on Nov 6, 2023 15:26:26 GMT
Did I read that Adams funeral is today (Monday) ? family funeral was yesterday, today is the memorial service that is going to be streamed
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Post by blackandgold73 on Nov 6, 2023 15:42:10 GMT
The Star is reporting that the Steelers have taken the decision to play their games this weekend.
As for the Panthers, whatever the players want to do, from abandoning the season to returning if that feels best for them, they will have my full and unwavering support for that decision.
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Post by awooga on Nov 6, 2023 20:28:07 GMT
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Post by Jono Bullard on Nov 6, 2023 20:29:20 GMT
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Post by texpef on Nov 6, 2023 23:55:14 GMT
The Star is reporting that the Steelers have taken the decision to play their games this weekend. As for the Panthers, whatever the players want to do, from abandoning the season to returning if that feels best for them, they will have my full and unwavering support for that decision. Well a part of me thinks they had no-one die on their squad so back to work they go, just one of their players killed one of ours, think that is likely to take alot longer to get over....
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Post by blackandgold73 on Nov 7, 2023 7:38:32 GMT
The two Scottish teams will now play each other on Friday instead. Presumably this has been done to free up space in the schedule to allow Panthers to catch up on missed games later in the season if they return. See final paragraph in source below: www.eliteleague.co.uk/article/3424-amended-fixtures-this-week
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Post by John Casey on Nov 7, 2023 12:16:46 GMT
I'm also starting to think that it's November 26th and agree that we'll pull out of the Challenge Cup.
Unfortunately there's still a business to run so I'm not thinking that we'll pull out of the league.
I'm purely guessing that roster rules will be relaxed for everyone so that teams can make as many roster changes as they need to.
I am wondering if we'll get a interview or a social media post hopefully explaining what's happening moving forward in the next few days.
However while there is uncertainty, I'm thinking it's probably best that all forthcoming panther games are taken off sale, that Cardiff game has raised eyebrows.
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Post by awooga on Nov 7, 2023 12:22:59 GMT
I suspect Cardiff will Bank the ticket money and the tickets will be valid for whatever date the reschedule is.
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Post by pantherlee on Nov 7, 2023 15:25:09 GMT
I don’t want to sound like I’m being insensitive or lack understanding but I feel that we should carry on playing on the 26th November. As tragic as it is the world will still have to go on and playing again I believe will help those who do still wish to play move on and find some closure. The first game back will be a difficult experience no matter when it is. Is there a risk that the longer this lingers the harder it will be to recover from?
I will respect whatever choice any individual player or coach takes regards to playing again or not but sooner or later things will have to carry on. We just need to ensure that Adam Johnson is honoured when we do which I have no doubt will happen
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2023 16:13:11 GMT
Every member of the playing staff needs to be 110% commited to returning.. it's not a sport to play if you are in any doubt due to the physicality etc . I don't believe everyone is even close to returning yet that's the vibes I'm getting.
What's happened is unprecedented and needs to run it's course. It's just the way it has to be I'm afraid.
When they do return the arena will be packed out and they'll be 7,000 right behind them as it will be a tough experience for them and yes the almost inevitable shirt retirement will take place I'd imagine.
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Post by awooga on Nov 7, 2023 16:13:13 GMT
I don’t want to sound like I’m being insensitive or lack understanding but I feel that we should carry on playing on the 26th November. As tragic as it is the world will still have to go on and playing again I believe will help those who do still wish to play move on and find some closure. The first game back will be a difficult experience no matter when it is. Is there a risk that the longer this lingers the harder it will be to recover from? I will respect whatever choice any individual player or coach takes regards to playing again or not but sooner or later things will have to carry on. We just need to ensure that Adam Johnson is honoured when we do which I have no doubt will happen I know what you mean, but what if we only have half a bench available? I’d rather wait until decisions are made either way. We can then decide on what’s needed and go from there.
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Post by pantherlee on Nov 7, 2023 16:36:22 GMT
I don’t want to sound like I’m being insensitive or lack understanding but I feel that we should carry on playing on the 26th November. As tragic as it is the world will still have to go on and playing again I believe will help those who do still wish to play move on and find some closure. The first game back will be a difficult experience no matter when it is. Is there a risk that the longer this lingers the harder it will be to recover from? I will respect whatever choice any individual player or coach takes regards to playing again or not but sooner or later things will have to carry on. We just need to ensure that Adam Johnson is honoured when we do which I have no doubt will happen I know what you mean, but what if we only have half a bench available? I’d rather wait until decisions are made either way. We can then decide on what’s needed and go from there. Which is why as hard as it may be, it may be approaching time to come to some kind of decision as to whether they want to play on or not so the organisation can make plans for a return. Whether that means asking for more time or to finish playing so temporary or permanent replacements can be brought in. Believe me I’m not taking things lightly what has happened but the club does has to carry on. By the 26th a month will have passed and getting on the ice will be the next part of the healing process for the club as a whole
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Post by pantherlee on Nov 7, 2023 17:02:55 GMT
Every member of the playing staff needs to be 110% commited to returning.. it's not a sport to play if you are in any doubt due to the physicality etc . I don't believe everyone is even close to returning yet that's the vibes I'm getting. What's happened is unprecedented and needs to run it's course. It's just the way it has to be I'm afraid. When they do return the arena will be packed out and they'll be 7,000 right behind them as it will be a tough experience for them and yes the almost inevitable shirt retirement will take place I'd imagine. Everything you say is 100% correct. And even if it is longer than the date I suggested I think if things are left for too long it will make it harder to get over. Things are still very raw and the funeral has only just taken place so it’s a given that no decision is required right now. Agree the #47 has to be retired. It wouldn’t be appropriate for anyone else to wear it again and that 7000 strong crowd getting behind them will do those players a world of good whenever it happens
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Post by John Casey on Nov 7, 2023 22:02:58 GMT
I know what you mean, but what if we only have half a bench available? I’d rather wait until decisions are made either way. We can then decide on what’s needed and go from there. Which is why as hard as it may be, it may be approaching time to come to some kind of decision as to whether they want to play on or not so the organisation can make plans for a return. Whether that means asking for more time or to finish playing so temporary or permanent replacements can be brought in. Believe me I’m not taking things lightly what has happened but the club does has to carry on. By the 26th a month will have passed and getting on the ice will be the next part of the healing process for the club as a whole I know what you mean about appearing to be insensitive. I'm thinking the League is going to have to make changes to the Roster Rules. So it could be getting everything aligned even though as I've stated before, Panthers Games being on sale for the near future isn't helping ATM. Whilst at work, I was thinking about whether we would try the Loan Market and see if some Euro sides have some youngsters who they want to get some more Ice Time and/or Seasoning. I'm think something similar to when a Swedish Team loaned us Modig, a few seasons back. Recently I remember a poster saying that we should re-sign Matthew Myers and TBH, I think, he'll probably be the right signing. Thinking it's better to have a Panthers Legend instead of a newcomer. With the Funeral and Memorial Service taken place, the next stages, I assume The On Ice Phase will be next.
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Post by float on Nov 8, 2023 8:40:43 GMT
I did see on Instagram that Bjorkung was back in Sweden. I appreciate Sweden is not a million miles away, but still a sign of players having some time off to reflect.
I still think withdrawing from the Challenge Cup and beginning the league again on the 26th November seems the most logical plan at this stage, but that will all be dependent on the squad and what they feel. What's also important is that the players will need a week at least of training to get back up to speed so that would mean starting again a week on Monday. Guess we will wait and see.
Whatever happens, I imagine that first game back is going to be very emotional and I trust the crowd will show the players that we have their backs if they decide to play again.
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