iginla
Chick Zamick
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Post by iginla on Nov 23, 2023 23:10:37 GMT
One of the companies that went bust on me and took my company for £29k owed HMRC a total of £1.4 million. How the hell can that happen. Within a week the directors of that company were trading again in the same industry under a different name. Makes my blood boil when I see it happen. 🤬 If you owe the bank £1000, that's your problem. If you owe them £1m, that's their problem. Or something to that effect. If you owe the bank £1m you can bet it’s secured against something and the bank will be a secured creditor against your assets. The bank got their money back in my case, but nobody else did though,quite unbelievable out a list of 400 plus companies owed money and a total of £4.5m worth of unsecured creditors. |
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Post by awooga on Nov 24, 2023 9:06:54 GMT
It’s an impressive list of creditors. I’m surprised the directors still have kneecaps.
Won’t do your blood pressure much good to see the balance sheet of their current company….
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iginla
Chick Zamick
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Post by iginla on Nov 24, 2023 9:30:00 GMT
It’s an impressive list of creditors. I’m surprised the directors still have kneecaps. Won’t do your blood pressure much good to see the balance sheet of their current company…. I’m surprised they still do too and yes it still annoys me about ten years later,they upset a lot of people in the industry. I’m guessing you’ve also had a look at companies house then ? A clearer case for action needed against directors you would struggle to find. Nothing happened though,it’s wrong. |
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Post by blackandgold73 on Nov 24, 2023 10:29:26 GMT
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Post by bobness on Nov 24, 2023 10:40:19 GMT
You bank with them if you owe £1000.
They bank with you if you owe £1m.
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Post by ashfieldpanther on Nov 24, 2023 10:40:41 GMT
so had the challenge been successful and Sheffield gone on to win the game, could Clan then challenge retrospectively that the original challenge was not legal, and asked for a replay of the game, from the last minute onwards ! (remembering didn't Sheffield not have to play the last 10 minutes of a game in Bracknell once due to ice issues ?) |
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Post by bobness on Nov 24, 2023 10:43:11 GMT
This is I’m afraid, amateur hour. The use of and rules on “Coach’s challenge” should be clearly communicated to all concerned, especially coaches and refs long before competitive games even start being played. |
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Robert Lachowicz
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Post by awooga on Nov 24, 2023 10:44:12 GMT
It’s an impressive list of creditors. I’m surprised the directors still have kneecaps. Won’t do your blood pressure much good to see the balance sheet of their current company…. I’m surprised they still do too and yes it still annoys me about ten years later,they upset a lot of people in the industry. I’m guessing you’ve also had a look at companies house then ? A clearer case for action needed against directors you would struggle to find. Nothing happened though,it’s wrong. It needed someone to challenge them at the time re: trading whilst insolvent. Only way they could have been brought to account. |
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Post by Yotes on Nov 24, 2023 10:47:04 GMT
Presumably if it had been successful they would've had to see the puck did actually cross the line, so Sheffield would at least have scored the goal. But yes it's always worrying when the refs don't know the rules, or are able to be bullied into decisions by a wobbler with an iPad.
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iginla
Chick Zamick
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Post by iginla on Nov 24, 2023 11:31:47 GMT
I’m surprised they still do too and yes it still annoys me about ten years later,they upset a lot of people in the industry. I’m guessing you’ve also had a look at companies house then ? A clearer case for action needed against directors you would struggle to find. Nothing happened though,it’s wrong. It needed someone to challenge them at the time re: trading whilst insolvent. Only way they could have been brought to account. I did I challenged the receiver on the phone more than once, sympathetic but he wasn’t interested. This was however a guy charging his services as an insolvency partner of a big firm out at well over £400 an hour. They live in a different world. As long as they draw their massive secured cut of the remaining assets which they always do they couldn’t care less. |
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Post by kievthegreat on Nov 24, 2023 17:29:30 GMT
Presumably if it had been successful they would've had to see the puck did actually cross the line, so Sheffield would at least have scored the goal. But yes it's always worrying when the refs don't know the rules, or are able to be bullied into decisions by a wobbler with an iPad. Refs also gave Steelers a penalty for an unsuccessful challenge. Obviously with only 3 seconds on the clock it is inconsequential, but had they done it with more time on the clock, it would have been an even worse decision to allow the challenge. Although I have to add, having finally seen some footage of it, it seems the refs call the play dead before the puck crosses the line. If you see the still image Sheffield picked to show it being over, the ref is already blowing play dead. Plus there is some pretty clear contact with the goalie in the crease, so I think no-goal was still right anyway. |
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Post by bobness on Nov 25, 2023 19:12:38 GMT
It needed someone to challenge them at the time re: trading whilst insolvent. Only way they could have been brought to account. I did I challenged the receiver on the phone more than once, sympathetic but he wasn’t interested. This was however a guy charging his services as an insolvency partner of a big firm out at well over £400 an hour. They live in a different world. As long as they draw their massive secured cut of the remaining assets which they always do they couldn’t care less. £400 is almost middling. Last time I checked, the liquidators fees for Robin Hood Energy were well over £1m… |
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Post by bobness on Nov 25, 2023 19:51:55 GMT
Current live EIHL table has Dundee top and Giants 9th…
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Post by kievthegreat on Nov 25, 2023 19:52:00 GMT
It's challenge cup, but Devils are 4-0 down after 20 mins!
Also, Dundee Stars are currently winning in Coventry. If they hold on they'll actually go top, albeit having played significantly more games then Steelers.
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Post by spik on Nov 25, 2023 20:44:32 GMT
Current live EIHL table has Dundee top and Giants 9th… A change after the first periods. All away teams getting the first goals but falling behind at this stage. |
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iginla
Chick Zamick
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Post by iginla on Nov 25, 2023 22:58:36 GMT
I did I challenged the receiver on the phone more than once, sympathetic but he wasn’t interested. This was however a guy charging his services as an insolvency partner of a big firm out at well over £400 an hour. They live in a different world. As long as they draw their massive secured cut of the remaining assets which they always do they couldn’t care less. £400 is almost middling. Last time I checked, the liquidators fees for Robin Hood Energy were well over £1m… That £400 plus an hour was about ten years ago though Bob ! Probably the best part of £700 an hour today. How they justify that is unthinkable. |
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Post by tinshed on Nov 28, 2023 6:12:11 GMT
There's an interesting possible scenario in the final CC game of Steelers v Storm on Wednesday, according to a Jonathan Fearnley post on X
Apparently either storm or Dundee will go through in last spot. And the main thing that separates them is goal difference. The storm neev to score 2 goals. Doesn't matter if the win or lose.
So in theory they could start with 6 forwards on the ice to get those 2 goals and concede 10 to go through!
This could be a comedy hockey game.
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Post by kievthegreat on Nov 28, 2023 15:34:13 GMT
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Post by ashfieldpanther on Nov 28, 2023 17:45:46 GMT
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Post by float on Nov 29, 2023 14:47:33 GMT
Is that the 3rd son-of-a-former-player we have in the league this season? Neilson, Craighead, Pound? |
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Post by messier1851 on Nov 29, 2023 21:02:07 GMT
Is that the 3rd son-of-a-former-player we have in the league this season? Neilson, Craighead, Pound? Can't remember who flagged this one so apologies but River Rymsha, the Cardiff Devils Dman is the son of ex-Bracknell Bee, Andrew Rymsha. |
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Post by Bagheera on Nov 30, 2023 8:29:17 GMT
The storm qualified without a farce by losing to Sheffield 4-2 last night. A goal in each of the first 2 periods avoided any need to get silly.
The farce of the cup continues though with the QF draw which sees Manchester drawn against.... yes, Sheffield.
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Post by Wolves 66 on Nov 30, 2023 14:11:23 GMT
Is that the 3rd son-of-a-former-player we have in the league this season? Neilson, Craighead, Pound? Can't remember who flagged this one so apologies but River Rymsha, the Cardiff Devils Dman is the son of ex-Bracknell Bee, Andrew Rymsha. Also don't forget Morgan Clarke-Pizzo (Or perhaps you only meant "new to the league" players?) |
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Post by float on Nov 30, 2023 15:14:37 GMT
Can't remember who flagged this one so apologies but River Rymsha, the Cardiff Devils Dman is the son of ex-Bracknell Bee, Andrew Rymsha. Also don't forget Morgan Clarke-Pizzo (Or perhaps you only meant "new to the league" players?) Morgan isn’t playing this season is he? Otherwise yes he’d be the 4th in the league. |
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Post by Bagheera on Dec 1, 2023 21:35:05 GMT
Just another day in the EIHL. 🤣🤣
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