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Post by The Flying Shirt on Jan 24, 2022 15:40:17 GMT
The no picture thing is just plain stupid. How hard could it be? Spend all that money on the scoreboard and then don't use it unless you use Annies Burger Shack I'd say that it might be worth tweeting the club/Dan Kerry but he will get all defensive again. It is one thing in a long list of embarrassing things that the club are/aren't doing at the moment. Another right bloke in the right job there
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Jan 24, 2022 15:43:56 GMT
The no picture thing is just plain stupid. How hard could it be? Spend all that money on the scoreboard and then don't use it unless you use Annies Burger Shack Panthers Images have replied to one of the Cats Whiskers team on twitter about this... Absolute tripe. Sheffield - Excellent entrance video, live dressing room cam, flag skaters, PROPER player announcements with animated pic. Panthers - Absolutely any old crap to keep the clappers happy
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Post by Yotes on Jan 24, 2022 16:12:32 GMT
Why is it down to the photographer to do it? According to Twitter they don't even have a placeholder for these players?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2022 16:12:35 GMT
Panthers Images have replied to one of the Cats Whiskers team on twitter about this... Absolute tripe. Sheffield - Excellent entrance video, live dressing room cam, flag skaters, PROPER player announcements with animated pic. Panthers - Absolutely any old crap to keep the clappers happy Exactly I see alot of fans say they ain't bothered what's on the screen as a intro but more bothered about what's on the ice fair point but to me that just apathy which has set in. Having a good intro just makes the club look a lot more professional instead it's amateurish at best . Paws with his silly dance etc makes it more like a kids disco than a serious intro . It's just cringe beyond belief in afraid .. I walked away ages ago and it seems nothing has improved
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Post by ashfieldpanther on Jan 24, 2022 16:40:01 GMT
Absolute tripe. Sheffield - Excellent entrance video, live dressing room cam, flag skaters, PROPER player announcements with animated pic. Panthers - Absolutely any old crap to keep the clappers happy Exactly I see alot of fans say they ain't bothered what's on the screen as a intro but more bothered about what's on the ice fair point but to me that just apathy which has set in. Having a good intro just makes the club look a lot more professional instead it's amateurish at best . Paws with his silly dance etc makes it more like a kids disco than a serious intro . It's just cringe beyond belief in afraid .. I walked away ages ago and it seems nothing has improved If the job is going to be done it should be done right. When new players join the club their picture should appear on the video. But, without trying to sound patronising, I fully understand if this job is not some-ones first role then it won't be a priority for them. It's not critical and won't make the slightest bit of difference to whether the team wins or loses.
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Post by kievthegreat on Jan 24, 2022 17:24:50 GMT
Why is it down to the photographer to do it? According to Twitter they don't even have a placeholder for these players? I mean I have sympathy with the photographer and his scheduling if they aren't available, because this is a side hustle and they've clearly got more pressing things going on. However can the club not get someone else in to do a headshot if the normal photograher is unavailable? Look at any football signing at any proffesional level (except for maybe 11pm on deadline day). Guy comes in, they'll have a ready made twitter announcement, video interview with the new signing, the obligatory photo holding up his shirt at the empty ground. Release for local media to run with. Appreciate there could be a few days delay when players fly in from across the world, but it's not rocket science. Then when they are in the starting lineup they'll have their headshot ready for the next game. It's just part of the on boarding process for new players surely? Maybe Panthers issue is that to get someone else in to do 3 or 4 headshots will cost them more than their current photographer.
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Post by DMS on Jan 24, 2022 18:51:59 GMT
Panthers also miss a trick for stuff like this by not utilising local universities/colleges by not offering placements for students to come in and do some of this stuff for free/experience
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Post by bobness on Jan 24, 2022 19:24:51 GMT
No slight on the guys who do it at all, but it isn't great is it? Surely it's part of the induction for new players? Here's the arena, here's your AAA pass, here's your stall, here's your gear, oh, stick this shirt on, we need a picture for the scoreboard and website...? Agreed re the student thing too. Would be a great little side thing for any media student.
It always bugs the life out of me that new players don't always have their name on their shirts when they turn up. Or they have a name, but in a different style to the whole rest of the team. How hard is it to have someone who can do that "on call", as it were, with a stock of the right size/font of letters etc? Rant over...
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Jan 24, 2022 20:39:05 GMT
Why is it down to the photographer to do it? According to Twitter they don't even have a placeholder for these players? To me it's just about making a player feel part of the team. The on-ice effort is huge now. If we had the same effort a few years back we would have won the league possibly another two times. Would it be so hard just to do it right?
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Post by Mark on Jan 24, 2022 20:55:25 GMT
Considering the falling attendances, the growing anger of the some of the fans and the lack of quality on the ice, the apathy displayed by the club is astounding. Amateurish as well as miserly.
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Post by iginla on Jan 24, 2022 21:51:07 GMT
The no picture thing is just plain stupid. How hard could it be? Spend all that money on the scoreboard and then don't use it unless you use Annies Burger Shack Panthers Images have replied to one of the Cats Whiskers team on twitter about this... Absolute nonsense. Can nobody else take a photo or operate the scoreboard then ! 🙄
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Post by iginla on Jan 24, 2022 21:59:57 GMT
Why is it down to the photographer to do it? According to Twitter they don't even have a placeholder for these players? I mean I have sympathy with the photographer and his scheduling if they aren't available, because this is a side hustle and they've clearly got more pressing things going on. However can the club not get someone else in to do a headshot if the normal photograher is unavailable? Look at any football signing at any proffesional level (except for maybe 11pm on deadline day). Guy comes in, they'll have a ready made twitter announcement, video interview with the new signing, the obligatory photo holding up his shirt at the empty ground. Release for local media to run with. Appreciate there could be a few days delay when players fly in from across the world, but it's not rocket science. Then when they are in the starting lineup they'll have their headshot ready for the next game. It's just part of the on boarding process for new players surely? Maybe Panthers issue is that to get someone else in to do 3 or 4 headshots will cost them more than their current photographer. Just typical of Panthers to be using part timers instead of paying for it to be done properly. Makes you wonder if they actually pay for anything, it’s all either cut price,second rate,sponsored or free.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2022 22:01:30 GMT
I mean I have sympathy with the photographer and his scheduling if they aren't available, because this is a side hustle and they've clearly got more pressing things going on. However can the club not get someone else in to do a headshot if the normal photograher is unavailable? Look at any football signing at any proffesional level (except for maybe 11pm on deadline day). Guy comes in, they'll have a ready made twitter announcement, video interview with the new signing, the obligatory photo holding up his shirt at the empty ground. Release for local media to run with. Appreciate there could be a few days delay when players fly in from across the world, but it's not rocket science. Then when they are in the starting lineup they'll have their headshot ready for the next game. It's just part of the on boarding process for new players surely? Maybe Panthers issue is that to get someone else in to do 3 or 4 headshots will cost them more than their current photographer. Just typical of Panthers to be using part timers instead of paying for it to be done properly. Makes you wonder if they actually pay for anything, it’s all either cut price,second rate,sponsored or free. Exactly get something for free or on the cheap and expect a crap product..
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Post by iginla on Jan 24, 2022 22:02:41 GMT
No slight on the guys who do it at all, but it isn't great is it? Surely it's part of the induction for new players? Here's the arena, here's your AAA pass, here's your stall, here's your gear, oh, stick this shirt on, we need a picture for the scoreboard and website...? Agreed re the student thing too. Would be a great little side thing for any media student. It always bugs the life out of me that new players don't always have their name on their shirts when they turn up. Or they have a name, but in a different style to the whole rest of the team. How hard is it to have someone who can do that "on call", as it were, with a stock of the right size/font of letters etc? Rant over... I believe stitching the names on was Audrey’s job.
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Post by jd on Jan 24, 2022 22:05:34 GMT
Considering the falling attendances, the growing anger of the some of the fans and the lack of quality on the ice, the apathy displayed by the club is astounding. Amateurish as well as miserly. Totally agree. The whole place needs a shake up and some proper hockey people running it. If I can see that, most people can. The photos is just a simple thing. It’s embarrassing. They don’t have them in our uniform on the website. Nearly every other team does…why don’t we? Too many people way out of there depth and Black has enabled that to happen. He’s also totally out of his depth. Dan Kerry said this on 29th Dec “ Should have some (good) news on Steve sooner rather than later, it's just been a case of waiting for actual news rather than perpetually saying he's x to x in every press release” a month later and still nothing. It’s so pathetic
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Post by Yotes on Jan 24, 2022 22:12:35 GMT
Aren't the names just dyed-in these days? On the game images they don't looked stitched.
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Post by spik on Jan 25, 2022 12:49:40 GMT
I mean I have sympathy with the photographer and his scheduling if they aren't available, because this is a side hustle and they've clearly got more pressing things going on. However can the club not get someone else in to do a headshot if the normal photograher is unavailable? Look at any football signing at any proffesional level (except for maybe 11pm on deadline day). Guy comes in, they'll have a ready made twitter announcement, video interview with the new signing, the obligatory photo holding up his shirt at the empty ground. Release for local media to run with. Appreciate there could be a few days delay when players fly in from across the world, but it's not rocket science. Then when they are in the starting lineup they'll have their headshot ready for the next game. It's just part of the on boarding process for new players surely? Maybe Panthers issue is that to get someone else in to do 3 or 4 headshots will cost them more than their current photographer. Just typical of Panthers to be using part timers instead of paying for it to be done properly. Makes you wonder if they actually pay for anything, it’s all either cut price,second rate,sponsored or free. Actually, I believe a few part-timers could achieve wondrous things for the club. But failure to use outside (fan) resources lets everyone down. Bringing in fans who’d love to help out for ‘nothing’ could keep things correct and running along. It’s not just a change in personnel recently either, there’s been too many holes in the past needed filling. On the side if stats for example there are numerous of us here who can bring much to the table. People who can write splendid columns of reading matter for a programme etc.... ideas galore on top of that.
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Post by iginla on Jan 25, 2022 13:07:59 GMT
Just typical of Panthers to be using part timers instead of paying for it to be done properly. Makes you wonder if they actually pay for anything, it’s all either cut price,second rate,sponsored or free. Actually, I believe a few part-timers could achieve wondrous things for the club. But failure to use outside (fan) resources lets everyone down. Bringing in fans who’d love to help out for ‘nothing’ could keep things correct and running along. It’s not just a change in personnel recently either, there’s been too many holes in the past needed filling. On the side if stats for example there are numerous of us here who can bring much to the table. People who can write splendid columns of reading matter for a programme etc.... ideas galore on top of that. I agree,a few part timers is a good idea,they should use the skills of people like Jono etc where it is appropriate. But they’re either doing the job or they aren’t,a halfway house and doing half a shoddy job is not acceptable.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2022 14:19:43 GMT
Who actually makes the day to day decisions of who to employ ? Like another poster said there's no leadership.. they are all looking at each other for guidance.. they are like a tribe of headless chickens . As someone else alluded to it.. they continue to make bad decision after bad decision.
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Post by spik on Jan 25, 2022 14:32:12 GMT
Who actually makes the day to day decisions of who to employ ? Like another poster said there's no leadership.. they are all looking at each other for guidance.. they are like a tribe of headless chickens . As someone else alluded to it.. they continue to make bad decision after bad decision. To be sure GM was in charge but now? Grab the bull ( not the bad stuff) and see where things need improvement and do it. Put yourself in the supporters position and want to make the effort. I offered to put stuff in the match prog and was told they had someone doing that. It was because it was so poor I offered. Plenty of old pics, material of resource but they went with the person making errors and talking about the same thing every week with little knowledge of it to.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2022 15:05:32 GMT
Who actually makes the day to day decisions of who to employ ? Like another poster said there's no leadership.. they are all looking at each other for guidance.. they are like a tribe of headless chickens . As someone else alluded to it.. they continue to make bad decision after bad decision. To be sure GM was in charge but now? Grab the bull ( not the bad stuff) and see where things need improvement and do it. Put yourself in the supporters position and want to make the effort. I offered to put stuff in the match prog and was told they had someone doing that. It was because it was so poor I offered. Plenty of old pics, material of resource but they went with the person making errors and talking about the same thing every week with little knowledge of it to. Problem is Mick the panthers are a closed shop it's a culture which has been around for years so if anyone with any knowledge which can aid them will get dismissed .. it does seem they don't want to get better at anything just plod along what they've always done with limited uses and pretty much winging everything. There's plenty of people out there who would want to help but unless your face doesn't fit etc you have no chance
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Post by Jord v4 on Jan 27, 2022 9:42:56 GMT
To be sure GM was in charge but now? Grab the bull ( not the bad stuff) and see where things need improvement and do it. Put yourself in the supporters position and want to make the effort. I offered to put stuff in the match prog and was told they had someone doing that. It was because it was so poor I offered. Plenty of old pics, material of resource but they went with the person making errors and talking about the same thing every week with little knowledge of it to. Problem is Mick the panthers are a closed shop it's a culture which has been around for years so if anyone with any knowledge which can aid them will get dismissed .. it does seem they don't want to get better at anything just plod along what they've always done with limited uses and pretty much winging everything. There's plenty of people out there who would want to help but unless your face doesn't fit etc you have no chance Knowing how the staff recruitment works or has worked in the recent past I don't actually think it is a closed shop. It's very much the opposite, an open house with no actual planning to get the correct people in place. Almost more by luck than judgement. The most recent appointments appear to have been done more correctly so perhaps there is a better structure there now but if you knew how one or two of the not so recent staff got their roles you would be rather amused.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2022 13:58:25 GMT
Problem is Mick the panthers are a closed shop it's a culture which has been around for years so if anyone with any knowledge which can aid them will get dismissed .. it does seem they don't want to get better at anything just plod along what they've always done with limited uses and pretty much winging everything. There's plenty of people out there who would want to help but unless your face doesn't fit etc you have no chance Knowing how the staff recruitment works or has worked in the recent past I don't actually think it is a closed shop. It's very much the opposite, an open house with no actual planning to get the correct people in place. Almost more by luck than judgement. The most recent appointments appear to have been done more correctly so perhaps there is a better structure there now but if you knew how one or two of the not so recent staff got their roles you would be rather amused. So you're saying there's a structure in place ? Well to me that makes it a whole lot worse then because from where I'm sat it's a utter shambles in every aspect and I see no signs of improvement!
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Post by Jord v4 on Jan 27, 2022 14:57:23 GMT
Knowing how the staff recruitment works or has worked in the recent past I don't actually think it is a closed shop. It's very much the opposite, an open house with no actual planning to get the correct people in place. Almost more by luck than judgement. The most recent appointments appear to have been done more correctly so perhaps there is a better structure there now but if you knew how one or two of the not so recent staff got their roles you would be rather amused. So you're saying there's a structure in place ? Well to me that makes it a whole lot worse then because from where I'm sat it's a utter shambles in every aspect and I see no signs of improvement! Yes... Almost... lol. Knowing how the staff recruitment was carried out in the not too distant past I'd say these recent appointments have been done far far better.... That in turn implies some kind of improvement I'd say, yes. Personally with GM no longer with us I can see change on the horizon. Rome wasn't built in a day though, baby steps are required.
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Post by iginla on Jan 27, 2022 17:29:33 GMT
Problem is Mick the panthers are a closed shop it's a culture which has been around for years so if anyone with any knowledge which can aid them will get dismissed .. it does seem they don't want to get better at anything just plod along what they've always done with limited uses and pretty much winging everything. There's plenty of people out there who would want to help but unless your face doesn't fit etc you have no chance Knowing how the staff recruitment works or has worked in the recent past I don't actually think it is a closed shop. It's very much the opposite, an open house with no actual planning to get the correct people in place. Almost more by luck than judgement. The most recent appointments appear to have been done more correctly so perhaps there is a better structure there now but if you knew how one or two of the not so recent staff got their roles you would be rather amused. There was one in the office not so long ago who got her job because she was related to NB. She didn’t last too long and you’d be even more amused if you knew why NB had to sack her !
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