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Post by Bagheera on Nov 7, 2021 22:45:58 GMT
It's now got that bad I know 2 people with comp season tickets who arn't going just because the CC has become so tiresome.
To think, just a few months ago we were all so desperate to be back watching hockey.
This CC has really sucked life out of it.
Cant wait for it to be out they way.
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Post by kievthegreat on Nov 8, 2021 13:17:10 GMT
Controversial opinion, this game is not pointless.
Looking at where teams can end up in the seedings makes a very big difference to the quarter final opponents. This is what I believe the final seedings can end up as:
1st - Panthers/Steelers/Giants
2nd - Panthers/Steelers/Giants
3rd - Flames/Devils
4th - Panthers/Steelers/Devils/Flames
5th - Panthers/Steelers/Devils/Flames
6th - Stars
7th - Flyers
8th - Blaze
Pick up all 6 points in our 3 cup games (we are 1st seed), we get a quarter finals vs the Blaze (8th seed)
Pickup another number and top our group (2nd seed), we get Flyers (7th seed)
Pickup another number, but fail to top our group (4th or 5th seed), we play the loser of Flames and Devils (4th or 5th seed)
There is a much easier path to the semis there, so topping the group does have some real benefits, especially if we drop a point along the way.
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Post by wgray on Nov 8, 2021 16:52:11 GMT
Controversial opinion, this game is not pointless. Looking at where teams can end up in the seedings makes a very big difference to the quarter final opponents. This is what I believe the final seedings can end up as: 1st - Panthers/Steelers/Giants 2nd - Panthers/Steelers/Giants 3rd - Flames/Devils 4th - Panthers/Steelers/Devils/Flames 5th - Panthers/Steelers/Devils/Flames 6th - Stars 7th - Flyers 8th - Blaze Pick up all 6 points in our 3 cup games (we are 1st seed), we get a quarter finals vs the Blaze (8th seed) Pickup another number and top our group (2nd seed), we get Flyers (7th seed) Pickup another number, but fail to top our group (4th or 5th seed), we play the loser of Flames and Devils (4th or 5th seed) There is a much easier path to the semis there, so topping the group does have some real benefits, especially if we drop a point along the way. Do the three group winners still get to choose who they play? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 8, 2021 17:00:51 GMT
Controversial opinion, this game is not pointless. Looking at where teams can end up in the seedings makes a very big difference to the quarter final opponents. This is what I believe the final seedings can end up as: 1st - Panthers/Steelers/Giants 2nd - Panthers/Steelers/Giants 3rd - Flames/Devils 4th - Panthers/Steelers/Devils/Flames 5th - Panthers/Steelers/Devils/Flames 6th - Stars 7th - Flyers 8th - Blaze Pick up all 6 points in our 3 cup games (we are 1st seed), we get a quarter finals vs the Blaze (8th seed) Pickup another number and top our group (2nd seed), we get Flyers (7th seed) Pickup another number, but fail to top our group (4th or 5th seed), we play the loser of Flames and Devils (4th or 5th seed) There is a much easier path to the semis there, so topping the group does have some real benefits, especially if we drop a point along the way. Do the three group winners still get to choose who they play? No, this years CC format is explained here www.eliteleague.co.uk/article/1473-premier-sports-challenge-cup-2022-format |
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Post by John Casey on Nov 8, 2021 19:36:28 GMT
Controversial opinion, this game is not pointless. Looking at where teams can end up in the seedings makes a very big difference to the quarter final opponents. This is what I believe the final seedings can end up as: 1st - Panthers/Steelers/Giants 2nd - Panthers/Steelers/Giants 3rd - Flames/Devils 4th - Panthers/Steelers/Devils/Flames 5th - Panthers/Steelers/Devils/Flames 6th - Stars 7th - Flyers 8th - Blaze Pick up all 6 points in our 3 cup games (we are 1st seed), we get a quarter finals vs the Blaze (8th seed) Pickup another number and top our group (2nd seed), we get Flyers (7th seed) Pickup another number, but fail to top our group (4th or 5th seed), we play the loser of Flames and Devils (4th or 5th seed) There is a much easier path to the semis there, so topping the group does have some real benefits, especially if we drop a point along the way. TBH, at the current moment, I'd rather avoid The Blaze and play The Devils instead. |
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Post by kievthegreat on Nov 8, 2021 19:40:23 GMT
Controversial opinion, this game is not pointless. Looking at where teams can end up in the seedings makes a very big difference to the quarter final opponents. This is what I believe the final seedings can end up as: 1st - Panthers/Steelers/Giants 2nd - Panthers/Steelers/Giants 3rd - Flames/Devils 4th - Panthers/Steelers/Devils/Flames 5th - Panthers/Steelers/Devils/Flames 6th - Stars 7th - Flyers 8th - Blaze Pick up all 6 points in our 3 cup games (we are 1st seed), we get a quarter finals vs the Blaze (8th seed) Pickup another number and top our group (2nd seed), we get Flyers (7th seed) Pickup another number, but fail to top our group (4th or 5th seed), we play the loser of Flames and Devils (4th or 5th seed) There is a much easier path to the semis there, so topping the group does have some real benefits, especially if we drop a point along the way. TBH, at the current moment, I'd rather avoid The Blaze and play The Devils instead. Need to thread the needle and win our group, but not pickup up 6 points. Flyers is by far the easiest draw for the quarters. |
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Post by wgray on Nov 13, 2021 12:36:08 GMT
A big weekend for Sheffield who are facing Cardiff at home tomorrow, hopefully we put in a big performance tonight and keep the winning momentum going.
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Nov 13, 2021 21:53:58 GMT
Can’t complain about that. The better team by a country mile won. I think we may be in for a bit of a long winter here
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Post by iginla on Nov 13, 2021 21:58:32 GMT
Can’t complain about that. The better team by a country mile won. I think we may be in for a bit of a long winter here But shots on goal 43 to 25 in Panthers favour ? That means Guildford in the QF then does it. |
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Post by DMS on Nov 13, 2021 22:01:07 GMT
I was impressed with Welsh today he is starting to show more moments of brilliance as time goes on, I’m not sure he will be the talisman we are desperately screaming out for but he is definitely one of the brighter aspects of the team currently.
However as a team we are severely lacking any real quality. There’s a decent amount of endeavour but we aren’t clinical enough at all. Although the issue of “quality” is league wide and part of the problem with teams only able to run with 3 lines.
Fortunately this disappointing result was only in the Challenge Cup.
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Post by DMS on Nov 13, 2021 22:01:55 GMT
Can’t complain about that. The better team by a country mile won. I think we may be in for a bit of a long winter here But shots on goal 43 to 25 in Panthers favour ? That means Guildford in the QF then does it. The shot count yet again seemed to have been pulled out of the same bag as the attendance figures. I don’t know why it niggles at me but it’s genuinely farcical some games that they can be so high. |
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Post by bobness on Nov 13, 2021 22:06:12 GMT
All that does is pad the visiting keeper’s stats. Another stellar night for Stojanovic.
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Nov 13, 2021 22:16:17 GMT
I was impressed with Welsh today he is starting to show more moments of brilliance as time goes on, I’m not sure he will be the talisman we are desperately screaming out for but he is definitely one of the brighter aspects of the team currently. However as a team we are severely lacking any real quality. There’s a decent amount of endeavour but we aren’t clinical enough at all. Although the issue of “quality” is league wide and part of the problem with teams only able to run with 3 lines. Fortunately this disappointing result was only in the Challenge Cup. Yes Welsh is getting better and missing Domingue desperately. Lane and Suoranta anonymous and poor old Kelsall is nowhere near a pre covid EIHL Brit. |
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Post by wgray on Nov 13, 2021 22:17:10 GMT
Can’t complain about that. The better team by a country mile won. I think we may be in for a bit of a long winter here I disagree that they were the better team, I thought we created some nice chances but just didn’t finish them off. The momentum was with us after we tied it in the 2nd, as we’ve seen previously, we couldn’t get the finish and then the refs began making some strange calls. Sheffield scored effectively two powerplay goals. We hit the iron at least three times that I can remember as well. As we know, it’s only the cup. Hopefully we’ll have 14 imports for next weekend and not 12. |
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Nov 13, 2021 22:25:06 GMT
Can’t complain about that. The better team by a country mile won. I think we may be in for a bit of a long winter here I disagree that they were the better team, I thought we created some nice chances but just didn’t finish them off. The momentum was with us after we tied it in the 2nd, as we’ve seen previously, we couldn’t get the finish and then the refs began making some strange calls. Sheffield scored effectively two powerplay goals. We hit the iron at least three times that I can remember as well. As we know, it’s only the cup. Hopefully we’ll have 14 imports for next weekend and not 12. Looked good on paper but I don’t think Sheffield got anywhere near top gear. When we pulled Carr at the end we looked even worse. We will see over the course of the season but I am seeing us pushed off the puck easily and we need our key player back asap |
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Post by iginla on Nov 13, 2021 22:33:15 GMT
Can’t complain about that. The better team by a country mile won. I think we may be in for a bit of a long winter here I disagree that they were the better team, I thought we created some nice chances but just didn’t finish them off. The momentum was with us after we tied it in the 2nd, as we’ve seen previously, we couldn’t get the finish and then the refs began making some strange calls. Sheffield scored effectively two powerplay goals. We hit the iron at least three times that I can remember as well. As we know, it’s only the cup. Hopefully we’ll have 14 imports for next weekend and not 12. If you want 14 imports next week you best hope they sign another one quick then because I wouldn’t expect Carrozza back anytime soon. |
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Post by ashfieldpanther on Nov 13, 2021 22:34:25 GMT
I'm surprised there wasn't a live rendition of The Last Post, rather than taped.
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Post by wgray on Nov 13, 2021 22:35:44 GMT
I disagree that they were the better team, I thought we created some nice chances but just didn’t finish them off. The momentum was with us after we tied it in the 2nd, as we’ve seen previously, we couldn’t get the finish and then the refs began making some strange calls. Sheffield scored effectively two powerplay goals. We hit the iron at least three times that I can remember as well. As we know, it’s only the cup. Hopefully we’ll have 14 imports for next weekend and not 12. Looked good on paper but I don’t think Sheffield got anywhere near top gear. When we pulled Carr at the end we looked even worse. We will see over the course of the season but I am seeing us pushed off the puck easily and we need our key player back asap I agree we need Domingue back, I’d also be looking to bring in another forward with some size and snarl who will actually finish a check. I also agree that we seem to play a lot poorer with the man advantage. Work to be done but at least the cup has given Tim the chance to see what areas need work and what we are lacking in the squad. |
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Post by wgray on Nov 13, 2021 22:38:11 GMT
I disagree that they were the better team, I thought we created some nice chances but just didn’t finish them off. The momentum was with us after we tied it in the 2nd, as we’ve seen previously, we couldn’t get the finish and then the refs began making some strange calls. Sheffield scored effectively two powerplay goals. We hit the iron at least three times that I can remember as well. As we know, it’s only the cup. Hopefully we’ll have 14 imports for next weekend and not 12. If you want 14 imports next week you best hope they sign another one quick then because I wouldn’t expect Carrozza back anytime soon. I think we need to sign at least one more player as IR cover, 13 next weekend would be good. |
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Post by panthersnation on Nov 13, 2021 22:43:22 GMT
Like has been pointed out the better team won and they looked a lot better than us all night.
We did not really look like scoring, may of outshot them but rok had an easy night.
Changes needed and fast.
Tousi needs somebody to back him up and rough some stuff up.
Not seeing a lot from 14 81 21!
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Post by Yotes on Nov 13, 2021 23:35:25 GMT
That means Guildford in the QF then does it. Yep, with or without home advantage. |
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Post by jd on Nov 13, 2021 23:47:40 GMT
Carr didn’t play great tonight but we just don’t create a lot.
Too many similar players, Sheffield looked so comfy against us.
Will be a long season at this rate
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Post by kievthegreat on Nov 14, 2021 0:30:58 GMT
That means Guildford in the QF then does it. Yep, with or without home advantage. 3 points required in our 2 remaining games to get home advantage. |
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Post by Higgy on Nov 14, 2021 0:59:09 GMT
First challenge cup game I've bothered with this season.
1st was littered with poor quality passes and stick handling from both teams
2nd was much better with a lot more intensity and grit
3rd we just looked tired.
3 line hockey is killing the intensity of games this season,it cannot be sustained for 60 minutes like with you can with 4 lines.
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