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Post by Jord v4 on Aug 6, 2021 13:21:17 GMT
Sticky subject but can anyone shed light on what the rules are with regards to being vaccinated or in my cause unvaccinated and still attending games!!! Will be a 450 mile round trip wasted if I get turned away. Just wondering so no need for vaccination bs You can turn up by all means but if you do catch covid here & are unfortunate enough to need oxygen then I hope you are put to the back of the queue with the rest of the non vac's.
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Post by jessecalifornia on Aug 6, 2021 13:38:38 GMT
Sticky subject but can anyone shed light on what the rules are with regards to being vaccinated or in my cause unvaccinated and still attending games!!! Will be a 450 mile round trip wasted if I get turned away. Just wondering so no need for vaccination bs They've said unvaccinated people called Jesse shouldn't attend, unless they have a legitimate medical condition that means they can't be vaccinated. Otherwise they should grow the hell up, get the jab and stop being daft. I should grow up based on my opinion not to put something in my body, ok mate!!!! I personally know more people with side effects from the vaccine then those with covid
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Post by jessecalifornia on Aug 6, 2021 13:40:22 GMT
And legit just wanted info on if I can come and support on the team, pay money towards the team!!! Didn’t expect the backlash!!! Some supports group this is
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Jord v4
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Post by Jord v4 on Aug 6, 2021 13:40:28 GMT
You can turn up by all means but if you do catch covid here & are unfortunate enough to need oxygen then I hope you are put to the back of the queue with the rest of the non vac's. What a dumb AF reply….. I’ve had clients develop blood clots from the vaccine, do I go around stating you should develop clots etc from the vax? Your fudging morons, it’s nothing to do with 5G or conspiracies, it’s the fact covid has a survival rate of 99.8% I don’t understand the hatred towards unvaccinated people!!! Just want to come and support the team & that's you on block. Absolute cretin.
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Post by jessecalifornia on Aug 6, 2021 13:46:35 GMT
What a dumb AF reply….. I’ve had clients develop blood clots from the vaccine, do I go around stating you should develop clots etc from the vax? Your fudging morons, it’s nothing to do with 5G or conspiracies, it’s the fact covid has a survival rate of 99.8% I don’t understand the hatred towards unvaccinated people!!! Just want to come and support the team & that's you on block. Absolute cretin. Yeah because I started this poo poo….. you guys attacked me abs my personal choice. Cretin
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Post by bobness on Aug 6, 2021 14:11:50 GMT
I personally know more people with side effects from the vaccine then those with covid I wouldn't say that qualifies as "data" in any real sense that you could base anything like policy on, though, would you? I know more people who've died from covid than anyone with any vaccine side effects greater than a day, 1 being > 0. That 99.8% number wasn't much comfort to him. And if that number is right, for the UK population, 130,000 deaths means that 65m people have been infected. Pretty much the whole population? Have another go...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2021 14:19:41 GMT
I hop non vaxxers are denied everything. seems to be the 18-24 category unsurprisingly.. probably believe all the crap on Twitter from conspiracy theorists!!
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Post by Pies on Aug 6, 2021 14:22:46 GMT
Jesse - any more usage of language on here will result in your removal. I hve very little sympathy for people’s replies to you based on you coming in here flaming the situation but if the rest can resist name calling please
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Post by jessecalifornia on Aug 6, 2021 14:34:13 GMT
Jesse - any more usage of language on here will result in your removal. I hve very little sympathy for people’s replies to you based on you coming in here flaming the situation but if the rest can resist name calling please I understand that, and apologize but flaming the situation how? I simply asked tbh a very easy to ask question on if I can come and support our team when unvaccinated!!!! I could have medical reasons for my decisions!!!! Yet I’ve been the one attacked, my opinion attacked, my views attacked.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2021 14:47:24 GMT
Jesse - any more usage of language on here will result in your removal. I hve very little sympathy for people’s replies to you based on you coming in here flaming the situation but if the rest can resist name calling please I understand that, and apologize but flaming the situation how? I simply asked tbh a very easy to ask question on if I can come and support our team when unvaccinated!!!! I could have medical reasons for my decisions!!!! Yet I’ve been the one attacked, my opinion attacked, my views attacked. TBH I think the Government will decide if you can come to watch Panthers, or any team/event where more than 2000 people are inside an indoors sports event. I recall it was being introduced in September.
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Post by jd on Aug 6, 2021 14:59:06 GMT
Jesse - any more usage of language on here will result in your removal. I hve very little sympathy for people’s replies to you based on you coming in here flaming the situation but if the rest can resist name calling please I understand that, and apologize but flaming the situation how? I simply asked tbh a very easy to ask question on if I can come and support our team when unvaccinated!!!! I could have medical reasons for my decisions!!!! Yet I’ve been the one attacked, my opinion attacked, my views attacked. Maybe if you didn't say "vaccination bs" you'd have had a kinder response. Oh and calling us fudging morons Just a thought!
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Post by The Flying Shirt on Aug 6, 2021 14:59:35 GMT
Sticky subject but can anyone shed light on what the rules are with regards to being vaccinated or in my cause unvaccinated and still attending games!!! Will be a 450 mile round trip wasted if I get turned away. Just wondering so no need for vaccination bs I genuinely hope that you can't.
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Post by jessecalifornia on Aug 6, 2021 15:05:48 GMT
Sticky subject but can anyone shed light on what the rules are with regards to being vaccinated or in my cause unvaccinated and still attending games!!! Will be a 450 mile round trip wasted if I get turned away. Just wondering so no need for vaccination bs I genuinely hope that you can't. Why exactly
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2021 15:07:52 GMT
I genuinely hope that you can't. Why exactly Really. Do you really want an answer to that question?
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Post by jd on Aug 6, 2021 15:08:17 GMT
I genuinely hope that you can't. Why exactly You surely don't need us to answer that?
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Post by jessecalifornia on Aug 6, 2021 15:12:59 GMT
Yeah I do because you can still get it, pass it on, and die off it it’s just my opinion not to have it it shouldn’t be I’m a bad person,
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Post by Pies on Aug 6, 2021 15:14:28 GMT
Yeah I do because you can still get it, pass it on, and die off it it’s just my opinion not to have it it shouldn’t be I’m a bad person, Yes but your mortality rate after being vaccinated drastically drops. And trust me, having had Covid after one jab and feeling as rotten as I did, never been more glad if taking a jab.
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Post by jd on Aug 6, 2021 15:19:03 GMT
Yeah I do because you can still get it, pass it on, and die off it it’s just my opinion not to have it it shouldn’t be I’m a bad person, And if you get it, as an unvaccinated person, the chances of you being in hospital are far greater than someone who has had 1 or 2 jabs. Your general rude, aggressive nature didn't help I work with someone who hasn't had the vaccine, tested positive and he is now in hospital. They have no underlying health issues and are critical. They thought the vaccine was bs too, but they will more than likely die from it now. Bit like this guy www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9867589/Anti-vaxxer-club-boss-56-dies-Covid-mocking-people-getting-experimental-vaccine.html
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2021 15:21:08 GMT
Having lost 3 close family members this year (eldest one late 50's's), I know what this thing can do to you. If you look at the latest hospital figures, the majority of people currently in hospital are the unvaccinated. I agree, if you have been vaccinated, you can still get Covid and still pass it on, however the transmission is reduced by 50% (so it appears). You may think you are invincible, but what about the people you are sat nearby.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2021 15:22:47 GMT
Yeah I do because you can still get it, pass it on, and die off it it’s just my opinion not to have it it shouldn’t be I’m a bad person, And if you get it, as an unvaccinated person, the chances of you being in hospital are far greater than someone who has had 1 or 2 jabs. Your general rude, aggressive nature didn't help I work with someone who hasn't had the vaccine, tested positive and he is now in hospital. They have no underlying health issues and are critical. They thought the vaccine was bs too, but they will more than likely die from it now. Bit like this guy www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9867589/Anti-vaxxer-club-boss-56-dies-Covid-mocking-people-getting-experimental-vaccine.html Absolutely no sympathy from me
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Post by jd on Aug 6, 2021 15:23:42 GMT
Absolutely no sympathy from me Agree Pidge. The only way some learn is the hard way.
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Post by bobness on Aug 6, 2021 15:39:34 GMT
There are two troubling viewpoints on covid vaccines that worry me.
From the unvaccinated - I'll be alright if I get it/I can cope/It's experimental, you don't know what's in it etc. From the vaccinated - I am double jabbed therefore invincible.
For the unvaccinated, you're entitled to that view, but expect the government to move towards restricting your ability to be in large crowds, amongst others. If you want to roll the dice on your (apparently) 99.8%, great, just do it on your own, and just pray you're not the 1 in 500. For the vaccinated, your risk of a negative outcome (med speak for "death") is greatly reduced, but has not disappeared...
A friend of mine, 53, recently defended her non-uptake of the vaccine in any way by saying she was "scared of needles". Her partner is recovering from bowel cancer treatment. I was speechless.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 6, 2021 15:43:53 GMT
Absolutely no sympathy from me Agree Pidge. The only way some learn is the hard way. Totally agree mate was going to say that myself
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Post by jessecalifornia on Aug 6, 2021 16:10:02 GMT
There are two troubling viewpoints on covid vaccines that worry me. From the unvaccinated - I'll be alright if I get it/I can cope/It's experimental, you don't know what's in it etc. From the vaccinated - I am double jabbed therefore invincible. For the unvaccinated, you're entitled to that view, but expect the government to move towards restricting your ability to be in large crowds, amongst others. If you want to roll the dice on your (apparently) 99.8%, great, just do it on your own, and just pray you're not the 1 in 500. For the vaccinated, your risk of a negative outcome (med speak for "death") is greatly reduced, but has not disappeared... A friend of mine, 53, recently defended her non-uptake of the vaccine in any way by saying she was "scared of needles". Her partner is recovering from bowel cancer treatment. I was speechless. Sorry about your friends situation, and thanks for you input into this now covid debate, friendliest response yet!!!! I think all of you double jabbers should remember you can spread it, and still be affected by it!!! I’m just a normal guy choosing to rely on my health against the virus. Again doesn’t mean I’m selfish, doesn’t mean I don’t care or wish to infect you. Think the divid and extreme division is shocking!!! First time I’ve had such negitive feedback from my decision not to vaccinate
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Post by jessecalifornia on Aug 6, 2021 16:21:53 GMT
Yeah I do because you can still get it, pass it on, and die off it it’s just my opinion not to have it it shouldn’t be I’m a bad person, Yes but your mortality rate after being vaccinated drastically drops. And trust me, having had Covid after one jab and feeling as rotten as I did, never been more glad if taking a jab. Well as your mortality rate is lesser then I am not treat to your life or health right???
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