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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2018 22:15:51 GMT
Team wins first competitive game of the season & club makes a boat load of cash; no issues from me. I’m happy that we won and i hope it continues. I just can’t understand why people seem content to roll along with no spare. We can easily afford one,so what possible argument is there to not even want one ? To be honest, I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone on here ever make a claim that they don’t think we need a spare and that it would be a bad idea. You’re preaching to the converted which makes your repetitive posts on the subject a little irritating because it’s as if you think you’re the only one who thinks we need one. But at the same time, that’s a coach and clubs decision. That’s not a fans decision. I’d like us to do a webcast, but respect that the club don’t want to do it. If a decision that’s made by the coach/club backfires then it’s egg on their face but as fans, we can ask but demanding we sign an extra player just isn’t feasible. It’s a hoping game I’m afraid.
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Post by bobness on Sept 3, 2018 7:37:18 GMT
I don't think Panthers need a spare import, certainly at this stage of the season. They have a full roster, 22 players, all of whom are perfectly able to play at this level, signed. The odd niggle here and there will always happen. The odd suspension too.
Last year, Panthers played 10 league games with 2 full time skaters injured, 6 of which were in the last 9 games, when all hope was gone anyway. Panthers went 4 and 6 in those 10 games, 3 of those losses to Sheffield, where we've already discussed that we basically couldn't beat them last year anyway. That suggests to me that a lack of a "spare" import (who could've "filled the hole", so to speak in those game) doesn't have too much of a bearing on the team. You can make pleas that Panthers lose games when players are missing due to injury, but 1) they lose games at full strength too, and 2) proving the causality is at best an assertion, with no "proof". What I'd like to see is knowingly long term injured players being covered faster. That said, you have to find the right person to cover. Panthers rosters are sprinkled with players who came in as cover, or were mid season signings, and were bang average at best. Kalus and Sarkanis, Kalus especially, 2 seasons ago, for example.
My prior post on the subject of bench strength.
"The average bench strength last year in the league was 18.53 skaters per game. That's (crudely) 4 full lines and 6 D with a bit to spare (on average). Only 6 of the 56 league games were played with 17 skaters (17 being the lowest bench strength Panthers had overall). Not exactly Capitals territory is it? The amount of (quality) Brits Panthers have, they shouldn't "need" a spare import for the season, IMHO. You may disagree."
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2018 7:51:23 GMT
I don't think Panthers need a spare import, certainly at this stage of the season. They have a full roster, 22 players, all of whom are perfectly able to play at this level, signed. The odd niggle here and there will always happen. The odd suspension too. Last year, Panthers played 10 league games with 2 full time skaters injured, 6 of which were in the last 9 games, when all hope was gone anyway. Panthers went 4 and 6 in those 10 games, 3 of those losses to Sheffield, where we've already discussed that we basically couldn't beat them last year anyway. That suggests to me that a lack of a "spare" import (who could've "filled the hole", so to speak in those game) doesn't have too much of a bearing on the team. You can make pleas that Panthers lose games when players are missing due to injury, but 1) they lose games at full strength too, and 2) proving the causality is at best an assertion, with no "proof". What I'd like to see is knowingly long term injured players being covered faster. That said, you have to find the right person to cover. Panthers rosters are sprinkled with players who came in as cover, or were mid season signings, and were bang average at best. Kalus and Sarkanis, Kalus especially, 2 seasons ago, for example. My prior post on the subject of bench strength. "The average bench strength last year in the league was 18.53 skaters per game. That's (crudely) 4 full lines and 6 D with a bit to spare (on average). Only 6 of the 56 league games were played with 17 skaters (17 being the lowest bench strength Panthers had overall). Not exactly Capitals territory is it? The amount of (quality) Brits Panthers have, they shouldn't "need" a spare import for the season, IMHO. You may disagree." Kalus wasn't bang average! He was a lot better than that
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Post by Walitzer on Sept 3, 2018 8:01:05 GMT
Panthers rosters are sprinkled with players who came in as cover, or were mid season signings, and were bang average at best. Kalus and Sarkanis, Kalus especially, 2 seasons ago, for example. Kalus was bang average? He contributed well in the Continental Cup campaign and was more than servicable in the league.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2018 9:59:24 GMT
Phillips banned for 1 game.
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Post by texpef on Sept 3, 2018 10:08:50 GMT
that all? Steelers factor strikes again...
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Post by Pies on Sept 3, 2018 10:21:29 GMT
that all? Steelers factor strikes again... On viewing, I don’t think the hits as bad as others have been in the past. Not a great one but I’d be disappointed if someone in gold got more than one game for that.
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Post by Carnell on Sept 3, 2018 10:29:01 GMT
Think the one game ban is fair, at the time it looked worse, mostly because the helmet came off. Looking back at the video, it looks more of a daft decision than a malicious hit.
No apparent injury on the play, Phillips missed the majority of the game plus the one game banned. No complaints from here.
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Post by pantherlee on Sept 3, 2018 10:53:23 GMT
It happened right in front of me and it was definitely intentional but there wasn't a lot of force behind it. Think Phillips went high because he was backtracking and not in a good position and knew he wouldn't catch him if he got through. Think 1 game is fair enough
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2018 11:28:35 GMT
Looking at highlights I've seen a hell of a lot worse go unpunished
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Post by SteelerBlade on Sept 3, 2018 12:53:49 GMT
Nice early work for DOPS. Saw them dish out more ganes for less last season. Hopefully common sense prevails and the lower end bans (such as this) are only punished as today.
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Post by bobness on Sept 4, 2018 7:13:53 GMT
Panthers rosters are sprinkled with players who came in as cover, or were mid season signings, and were bang average at best. Kalus and Sarkanis, Kalus especially, 2 seasons ago, for example. Kalus was bang average? He contributed well in the Continental Cup campaign and was more than servicable in the league. 7 points in 6 CC games, yes, but the opposition was far from great. Brad Moran scored nearly half as many points in 9 CC games as he did in 51 league games. Nikiforuk scored more than a third of his 51 games league points (32) in 7 CC games (11). Players filled their boots against Spain and Turkey. 2 points in 6 league games is the better measure for Kalus, for me. I'd not call that return "more than serviceable". Kalus made an impression on me first go round, not so much second.
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Post by Walitzer on Sept 4, 2018 8:13:37 GMT
I think it is wrong to lump Kalus in with Sarkanis, thats all. The end result was similar that season, but you're talking about a skilled veteran under performing domestically and a prospect performing as expected.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2018 9:53:45 GMT
Kalus was bang average? He contributed well in the Continental Cup campaign and was more than servicable in the league. 7 points in 6 CC games, yes, but the opposition was far from great. Brad Moran scored nearly half as many points in 9 CC games as he did in 51 league games. Nikiforuk scored more than a third of his 51 games league points (32) in 7 CC games (11). Players filled their boots against Spain and Turkey. 2 points in 6 league games is the better measure for Kalus, for me. I'd not call that return "more than serviceable". Kalus made an impression on me first go round, not so much second. In your first post you never mentioned Kalus first and 2nd time round!!
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Post by bobness on Sept 4, 2018 12:08:27 GMT
7 points in 6 CC games, yes, but the opposition was far from great. Brad Moran scored nearly half as many points in 9 CC games as he did in 51 league games. Nikiforuk scored more than a third of his 51 games league points (32) in 7 CC games (11). Players filled their boots against Spain and Turkey. 2 points in 6 league games is the better measure for Kalus, for me. I'd not call that return "more than serviceable". Kalus made an impression on me first go round, not so much second. In your first post you never mentioned Kalus first and 2nd time round!! "Panthers rosters are sprinkled with players who came in as cover, or were mid season signings, and were bang average at best. Kalus and Sarkanis, Kalus especially, 2 seasons ago, for example." I'm not sure how much clearer I could've been? Maybe putting brackets around "Kalus especially"? "Panthers rosters are sprinkled with players who came in as cover, or were mid season signings, and were bang average at best. Kalus and Sarkanis (Kalus especially) 2 seasons ago, for example." Kalus was very good first time, but bang average, nowhere near the player he was, second time.
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