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Post by Big Popper on Jul 23, 2018 6:10:12 GMT
Does anyone understand how the group stages work this year. It's got me completely beat. Mumbo Jumbo here
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Post by kievthegreat on Jul 23, 2018 6:36:36 GMT
Play all your games and get final standings
4th place teams eliminated from their group and results expunged from everyones record.
Then you have the final standings (i.e 3 groups of 3), top team from each group plus next 5 best ranked teams go to the knockout phase.
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Post by Big Popper on Jul 23, 2018 7:14:13 GMT
I'm surprised that Moran would allow us to be in the group of 3. That's 1 less game that wouldn't be on the season ticket. He must be slipping, missed a trick there!
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Post by John Casey on Jul 23, 2018 7:28:10 GMT
From what I understand, there will be 4 teams in the group.
It just appears that 2 games for all purposes wouldn't have existed.
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Post by iginla on Jul 23, 2018 8:03:09 GMT
Crikey could they have made it any more complicated just to ditch 3 teams at group stage.😳😳 Reading all that i was expecting to get to a paragraph where Duckworth/Lewis got involved ! 🤣
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Post by kievthegreat on Jul 23, 2018 8:25:04 GMT
It's very unlikely, but you could have a situation where a team TOPS the group of 4 initially, but that when you remove the last placed team, they can end up bottom of the 3 team group and could miss out on qualification altogether!
Clear as mud this setup!
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Post by John Casey on Jul 23, 2018 8:41:44 GMT
I'm actually wondering if the scenario of the final group game will be against the eliminated team.
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Post by BigLad on Jul 23, 2018 16:48:18 GMT
It's very unlikely, but you could have a situation where a team TOPS the group of 4 initially, but that when you remove the last placed team, they can end up bottom of the 3 team group and could miss out on qualification altogether! Clear as mud this setup! Nah, group winners qualify automatically. Positions 2 & 3 from the groups will then be ranked 4-8 with the worst team from them joining the team finishing bottom in the 4 team groups as being eliminated.
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Post by kievthegreat on Jul 23, 2018 17:23:50 GMT
It's very unlikely, but you could have a situation where a team TOPS the group of 4 initially, but that when you remove the last placed team, they can end up bottom of the 3 team group and could miss out on qualification altogether! Clear as mud this setup! Nah, group winners qualify automatically. Positions 2 & 3 from the groups will then be ranked 4-8 with the worst team from them joining the team finishing bottom in the 4 team groups as being eliminated. The way the rules are written, last place teams are eliminated and points expunged first, then a group winner picked from the new table. "d. In groups B and C where we have 4 teams compared to the 3 teams in group A, in both group B and C, the results and all statistics from the games teams played against the bottom placed team are removed and the group adjusted accordingly (to give comparable parity to group A) e. The top seeded team from group A, B and C automatically move on to the Knockout stage seeded 1 – 3 according to their total points"
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Post by John Casey on Jul 23, 2018 17:54:13 GMT
Certainly convoluted.
In a way we couldn't invite 5 other teams from a Euro League or the 2nd Tier of British Ice Hockey to make it up to 16 teams and have a straight knockout tournament.
Or say give the 2 teams in The European Competitions a bye to the Quarter Finals and have the other 9 teams compete in 3 groups of 3 and the top 2 advance to The Quarters.
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Post by spik on Jul 23, 2018 18:55:49 GMT
Certainly convoluted. In a way we couldn't invite 5 other teams from a Euro League or the 2nd Tier of British Ice Hockey to make it up to 16 teams and have a straight knockout tournament. Or say give the 2 teams in The European Competitions a bye to the Quarter Finals and have the other 9 teams compete in 3 groups of 3 and the top 2 advance to The Quarters. Or just play each other once (10 games a club) somehow with a draw to select home advantage?. The top two get the buy and then play the 3 per group scenario home and away (or 3,5,7,9 in one group and 4,6,8.10 in a second, bottom drops out) to give 6 more teams for an 8 team quarter final set up.
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Post by iginla on Jul 23, 2018 19:00:28 GMT
Certainly convoluted. In a way we couldn't invite 5 other teams from a Euro League or the 2nd Tier of British Ice Hockey to make it up to 16 teams and have a straight knockout tournament. Or say give the 2 teams in The European Competitions a bye to the Quarter Finals and have the other 9 teams compete in 3 groups of 3 and the top 2 advance to The Quarters. Or just play each other once (10 games a club) somehow. The top two get the buy and then play the 3 per group scenario home and away to give 6 more teams for an 8 team quarter final set up. Your’e our reliable stats guru Spik. I’m relying on you to keep us all in the picture week by week as to who is likely to go through. You should have fun working that little lot out. Haha 😄
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Post by spik on Jul 23, 2018 19:02:00 GMT
Or just play each other once (10 games a club) somehow. The top two get the buy and then play the 3 per group scenario home and away to give 6 more teams for an 8 team quarter final set up. Your’e our reliable stats guru Spik. I’m relying on you to keep us all in the picture week by week as to who is likely to go through. You should have fun working that little lot out. Haha 😄 and you notice I changed the buggar (just like Elite reality) since I made it up...lol
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